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[Dalek]

Fox & Friends freaks out over black Captain America: It’s a plot to ‘target conservatives’

The hosts of Fox & Friends asserted over the weekend that Marvel’s Captain America had declared war on conservatives because a recent comic book story line had the superhero battling white supremacists.

Conservative websites expressed outrage last week after a video released by the right-leaning MacIver Institute think tank suggested that Captain America’s latest villainous threat, Sons of the Serpent, represented real life conservatives who oppose Hispanic immigrants.

A Fox & Friends segment on Saturday warned that Captain America’s new mission was to “target conservatives.”

“He’s got a new odd enemy,” Fox News host Clayton Morris reported, noting that Captain America was now a black man. “Instead of going against Hydra and the typical Captain America villains, he’s going up against conservatives. That’s his new enemy.”

Tucker Carlson argued that Islamic extremists or ISIS members would have been more appropriate enemies.

“The [Supreme Serpent] is an American who has misgivings about unlimited illegal immigration and the costs associated with it,” Carlson said. “And that, according to the comic book, is evil.”

“Right, so these serpents are stopping people from coming over the border and Captain America is saying, ‘That’s not going to happen on my watch, I’m Captain America,'” Morris agreed. “An interesting discussion around the idea of [immigrants bringing] disease and rapists and everything else.”

Carlson declared that Marvel was portraying average Americans as “snake-handling bigots and they need to be held in place or else they’ll turn this country into Nazi Germany. It’s like, the people who run this country, a lot of them actually believe that. I live near them. They really think that.”

“They should do a comic book on the opposite,” co-host Health Childers offered. “The people who are working the border to keep us safe.”

Meanwhile, Marvel's Facebook page is crawling with the following types of comments-take a look for yourself:
https://www.facebook.com/Marvel

Reddit is also reporting that the writer, Nick Spencer has been receiving death threats on Twitter-I'm Twitter illiterate so I'll never be able to find those.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v46yDz70X8


For those that don't know, Sam Wilson has been the new Captain America for about a year now since Steve Rogers is now unable to carry the role. A new #1 series launched this week under the writer Nick Spencer. The first issue illustrates how Sam has left the government and with that SHIELD's funding, as he wants to help the common man-and in the first issue he flies to Arizona (in coach seating, no less) to help an elderly grandmother find her missing grandson, who is leaving food and water in the desert for immigrants.

A review of the first issue from CBR:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/comic-review/captain-america-sam-wilson-1-marvel-comics

In Nick Spencer and Daniel Acuña's "Captain America: Sam Wilson" #1, Sam leaves S.H.I.E.L.D. and strikes out on his own. The story is split into two timelines, alternating between Sam stuck in a middle seat on a long flight and flashbacks to the recent past. The plane scenes emphasize the down-to-earth parts of Sam's personality as he deals with TSA and annoying seat neighbors, and the flashback sequences trace his most recent evolution in identity.

The large amount of voiceover captions detract from the immediacy of the action. Parts of "Captain America: Sam Wilson" #1 read more like a memoir than an action comic. Despite this, Spencer creates a strong voice for Sam and a new direction for his character. Sam speaks directly to the reader, and he comes across clearly as an ethical, thoughtful hero, capable of handling a bigger spotlight and more responsibility.

 

[Piecake]

So, are Fox and Friends admitting that they and conservatives are racists?

 

[Dryk]

Aren't the Sons of the Serpent basically the Marvel universe's KKK?

 

[Dalek]

Aren't the Son's of the Serpent basically the Marvel universe's KKK?

Yes. They showed up maybe 2 years ago in a Daredevil storyline that was great.

 

[Sandfox]

A lot of the people complaining either don't understand Cap or are trying to push their own views.

 

[Discotheque]

makes sense. captain america has been cowtowing to these pussy left wing politicians for far too long. when will the liberal media, including marvel comics, stop trying to destroy good-hearted family values that made america the country it is. the founding fathers would be ashamed of this piece of garbage and now the chickens have come home to roost. i only have faith in true-hearted patriots like decker

 

[Tyrant Rave]

The hate that Nick Spencer is getting on Twitter over this is pretty hilarious

 

[danm999]

When you start identifying with comic book villains, it's time to pack it in.

 

[Monocle]

These chucklefucks couldn't buy a clue if they stole Trump's wallet.

Rabble rabble rabble!

 

[CoolOff]

As a person who never reads comic books, it does seem kind of weird if this is the only political enemy resembling something from real life? It's not like he's gonna go up against radical islamists anytime soon is it?

Spoiler

Still though, lol @ fox.

Edit: Nevermind, just saw the excerpts. If you identify with those villains.... yeah, just about says it all.

 

[liquidtmd]

In context of their "argument" (I doubt the presenters actually read the whole comic), these panels are particularly worthy

'Everybodys Ok with beating up Hydra'

* Fox presenters: "WHERRRRES HYDDRRRRA "

 

[HvySky]

So Fox & Friends thinks the Sons of the Serpent are the good guys?

That checks out.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

As a person who never reads comic books, it does seem kind of weird if this is the only political enemy resembling something from real life? It's not like he's gonna go up against radical islamists anytime soon is it?

He's done that before, don't worry.

 

[super-famicom]

Someone should show them the new (and awesome!) Ms. Marvel.

 

[Alchemy]

Fox News is pathetic.

 

[Sandfox]

As a person who never reads comic books, it does seem kind of weird if this is the only political enemy resembling something from real life? It's not like he's gonna go up against radical islamists anytime soon is it?

Spoiler

Still though, lol @ fox.

Edit: Nevermind, just saw the excerpts.

This isn't new for Cap. The first issue of the original book had him punching out Hitler on the cover and was extremely controversial.

 

[ninjabat]

Lol. Hope Marvel double down and keep the storyline going. Conservatives should start treating immigrants like people.

 

[B-Dubs]

So, are Fox and Friends admitting that they and conservatives are racists?

Pretty much, I don't think they realize the Sons of the Serpent are supposed to be the KKK. If your politics resemble those of a fictionalized version of the KKK, you should probably take a damn good look at what you believe in and start to reevaluate your values.

 

[Rhaknar]

Aren't the Sons of the Serpent basically the Marvel universe's KKK?

Yes

 

[Dryk]

As a person who never reads comic books, it does seem kind of weird if this is the only political enemy resembling something from real life? It's not like he's gonna go up against radical islamists anytime soon is it?

Spoiler

Still though, lol @ fox.

Edit: Nevermind, just saw the excerpts. If you identify with those villains.... yeah, just about says it all.

It gets weirder. The original (1960s) Sons of the Serpent were lead by one General Chen from an unspecified Asian country who was getting racists to do hate crimes to spread disorder and prove that democracy doesn't work.

 

[M1ch04c4n0]

Lol. Hope Marvel double down and keep the storyline going. Conservatives should start treating immigrants like people.

You are asking too much, they don't even treat people born in their own country as people, ie, homosexuals, black, natives....

 

[Monocle]

Someone should show them the new (and awesome!) Ms. Marvel.

So Muslins are heroes now???

 

[a secret-boss]

Maybe that's why I enjoy this more than some of the new comics post SW

 

[Josh5890]

Fox News, CNN, MSNBC. They are all just a bunch of people with big egos trying to make a name for themselves.

 

[The Living Tribunal]

Hydra News.

 

[Red Arremer]

I like that one Facebook comment calling Jane Foster Thor "tranny", lol. They're so dug up in their own hatred that they can't even look beyond the headline "Thor is a woman now".

Also, I like how all of the people in the photos are white.

Hydra News.

Ha.

 

[Dalek]

Hydra News.

This made me laugh.

 

[Ri'Orius]

Pretty much, I don't think they realize the Sons of the Serpent are supposed to be the KKK. If your politics resemble those of a fictionalized version of the KKK, you should probably take a damn good look at what you believe in and start to reevaluate your values.

They disagree with the comparison. When conservatives compare healthcare and a social safety net to communist Russia and China, liberals disagree. Some disagree coherently, others... less so.

"Someone wrote a fictional version of the KKK that agrees with you" isn't a compelling argument. It's a strawman.

 

[Palette Swap]

To be fair, Ewing and Aaron have been making fun of these guys (fox) for some time now.

Funnily enough, I loved the first issue and thought Sam's choice to have a public stance on things, and its fallout, was well thought out and interesting. It would be kind of gross to play the "truth in the middle" card when the reality is that one side is very far right.

By far my favorite ANAD Marvel book so far.

The hate that Nick Spencer is getting on Twitter over this is pretty hilarious

Except when you're Nick Spencer I guess. But yeah, that's a great way to prove his point.

When you start identifying with comic book villains, it's time to pack it in.

This sums it up so perfectly.

 

[Apt101]

So, are Fox and Friends admitting that they and conservatives are racists?

That's what it looks like.

 

[way more]

I wonder if they are also upset that Superman fought the KKK.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/23157/how-superman-defeated-ku-klux-klan

 

[danm999]

They disagree with the comparison. When conservatives compare healthcare and a social safety net to communist Russia and China, liberals disagree. Some disagree coherently, others... less so.

"Someone wrote a fictional version of the KKK that agrees with you" isn't a compelling argument. It's a strawman.

Unless I'm missing something, it's a comparison they appear to have made themselves though.

To me that is more telling than anything the comic itself is saying, kind of like when a Tea Party group used some of the Bioshock Infinite propaganda.

 

[TAJ]

So, are Fox and Friends admitting that they and conservatives are racists?

That was my take on it. They obviously identify with the Sons of the Serpent.

 

[Muskieratboi]

Holy shit.

G.I.Joe is Marvel canon now?


EDIT:

We cannot allow comic books to use us as a propoganda piece

 

[Wag]

Someone should point out to them that their owner isn't even an American citizen.

 

[MattKeil]

When a fictional character goes up against white supremacists, and your first reaction is "Hey, stop attacking me!", maybe you need to re-evaluate a few things about yourself.

Holy shit.

G.I.Joe is Marvel canon now?

Cobra is a thinly veiled HYDRA/Serpent Society clone, created by Marvel for Hasbro when they made the comic tie-in deal back in the '80s.

 

[tearsintherain]

Am I the only one who prefers when comics and scifi are more... subtle in their criticisms of society? I guess its been a long time since I read comics but those panels all looked really ridiculous, like Captain America is basically fighting Major Trump.

Flying coach? That's a story line?

Batman's next arch villain: Obesity! He must rescue Gotham citizens from high fructose corn syrup, which has been planted into the water supply by Monsanto.

 

[foxuzamaki]

Figures, reading the panels, I want to pick up this comic book.

 

[TAJ]

Holy shit.

G.I.Joe is Marvel canon now?

Spider-Man was in Marvel's Transformers series and Marvel had a G.I. Joe/Transformers series, so they already were since the '80s.

EDIT:And it was firmly in 616 continuity, as proven here...

http://postimage.org/

 

[Battersea Power Station]

I wonder if they are also upset that Superman fought the KKK.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/23157/how-superman-defeated-ku-klux-klan

Superman is an alien Jew, so they don't really care what he does.

 

[Dram]

All this is going to do is make people pick up the comic now.

 

[MattKeil]

Am I the only one who prefers when comics and scifi are more... subtle in their criticisms of society? I guess its been a long time since I read comics but those panels all looked really ridiculous, like Captain America is basically fighting Major Trump.

How exactly do you address the current events issues in the news today in a "more subtle" way, exactly? Trump and the GOP are practically cartoons as it is. There was an old GI Joe storyline in the comics where Cobra Commander runs for office, heavily played for satire/laughs, and he was actually less ridiculous than Trump is now.

Spider-Man was in Marvel's Transformers series and Marvel had a G.I. Joe/Transformers series, so they already were since the '80s.

They were de-canonized shortly after they became regular running series. Several times in the letters columns of Transformers they stated that TF and GI Joe took place in their own universe, and could we please forget about that Spider-Man cameo in issue #3, thankyouverymuch. The fact that Circuit Breaker, a major villain in the TF series, originally appeared in Secret Wars, didn't help clear anything up.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Fox News being idiots?! SHOCKING!


Good on Nick Spencer, first issue was great.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

This is goddamn amazing.

 

[Wag]

Superman is an alien Jew, so they don't really care what he does.

And so was Jesus...

 

[JediLink]

We should support his campaign guys

EDIT: Here's a convenient link if you actually want to look at it. It's, uh, interesting.

 

[ZackieChan]

My fave comment on that FB

"You done fucked up, Marvel. Check out my GoFundMe"

Edit: Shit, I'm too late and I was paraphrasing.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

Lol. So they just admitted all racists are conservative?

 

[Log4Girlz]

So Muslins are heroes now???

I BET HER NAME IS ISIS


Marvel destroying America confirmed

 

[chaobreaker]

Am I the only one who prefers when comics and scifi are more... subtle in their criticisms of society? I guess its been a long time since I read comics but those panels all looked really ridiculous, like Captain America is basically fighting Major Trump.

Flying coach? That's a story line?

Hmm? How else would you criticize the fervent anti-immigrant mentality in American society in a Captain America series? Would you rather they didn't bother at all?