Fox sets Fantastic Four reboot finally.

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Who the hell made that deal that I bolded below. That was stupid.


http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118007959.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

While Disney lays down a $4 billion bet on the future of Marvel's superheroes, 20th Century Fox has already begun overhauling one of its big Marvel franchises, "Fantastic Four," to take the property beyond the two films already made.
Akiva Goldsman has been hired to oversee the reboot as producer. Michael Green, the co-exec producer of TV's "Heroes" who co-wrote "Green Lantern," will write the script for the new "Fantastic Four."

Fox wouldn't comment on its plans, but the moves are evidence that Marvel franchises do have enduring lifespans.

As "Spider-Man 4" moves toward an early 2010 production start, Columbia Pictures recently hired James Vanderbilt to write a fifth and sixth installment with the understanding that one or both of those films would give the franchise a makeover with a new director and cast (Daily Variety, Aug. 16).

The 2005 "Fantastic Four" and 2007 sequel "Rise of the Silver Surfer" were directed by Tim Story and starred Ioan Gruffudd, Jessica Alba, Chris Evans and Michael Chiklis. Since the deals for the reboot are just getting made, it is unclear if any of them will return.

Though Marvel Entertainment owns and finances properties like "Iron Man" and "Thor," Fox controls "Fantastic Four" in perpetuity -- as long as it continues making the films. Fox has the same arrangement on Marvel Comics properties "X-Men," "Daredevil" and "Silver Surfer." Marvel is a producer and financial participant through a licensing agreement.

Though the related Silver Surfer character soared in the "Fantastic Four" sequel, that iconic personality has remained a priority project for his own film at the studio.

Fox has so far done one "X-Men" spinoff in "Wolverine." The studio is working on a sequel to that film and has scripts for "X-Men Origins: First Class," and "X-Men Origins: Magneto." Potential spinoffs for the Gambit and Deadpool characters have also been discussed.

As producer, Goldsman is involved with several DC Comics transfers, including "Jonah Hex," "The Losers" and "Teen Titans." He was also producer of the Will Smith-Charlize Theron superhero film "Hancock," for which a sequel is being developed.
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I doubt anything will come of it, Fox is only doing this to hold onto the rights. They did the same thing with Daredevil.
 
Marvel made that deal when it was near bankruptcy. It probably saved them.

They feel bad now though...
 
Ripclawe said:
Who the hell made that deal that I bolded below. That was stupid.
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Marvel was facing ruin in the mid-to-late 90s and movie deals helped keep them afloat.
 
suaveric said:
I wonder how long it will be before Disney buys back the film rights to all those characters?
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They'll tap into what the $4 billion buys long before that is even considered, otherwise shareholders will have a fit.
 
suaveric said:
I agree, that was really short sited. Why didn't Marvel just sign Fox and Sony to a contract that read "you can do x spider-man movies before the rights revert back to us"?

I wonder how long it will be before Disney buys back the film rights to all those characters?
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Absolutely never. Every single executive would have to be lobotomized before they sell those rights back to Disney.
 
suaveric said:
The second movie was much better than the first, what didn't work well?
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Financially the second didn't really do any better than the first. It made a bit more money, but cost a bit more as well.

While I thought it was a more enjoyable film it wasn't as good as some of the other recent superhero films. The public complaints by Edward Norton about the film also dim the chances of a sequel, so all in all I'm not sure Universal would consider the remake to be a major success.
 
If there is one thing I love it is origin stories....
Not really, that shit is lame
 
Hilarious that they're rebooting a series where the last movie came out 2 years ago, but I'm all for it. I tried so hard to like the Fantastic Four movies.
 
ZeroGravity said:
Despite being the better movie it made almost exactly the same at the box office.
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And cost more to make. Though, it's home video sales put the original to shame. But considering all of the problems Marvel went through with Edward Norton, we'll be lucky to see him in Avengers, let alone a sequel.

EDIT: G'damnit, beaten.
 
When you want to reboot your comic franchise and make it more true to the essence of the original work, you DON'T hire Hackiva Goldsman.

This was the guy behind the butcher job of I, Robot, The Da Vinci Code, Angels & Demons, I Am Legend, A Beautiful Mind, Cinderella Man and the 2 SHITTIEST BATMAN MOVIES EVER MADE: Batman Forever and Batman & Robin.

Fuck you Fox.

FUCK YOU FOX.
 
polyh3dron said:
When you want to reboot your comic franchise and make it more true to the essence of the original work, you DON'T hire Hackiva Goldsman.

This was the guy behind the butcher job of I, Robot, The Da Vinci Code, Angels & Demons, I Am Legend, A Beautiful Mind, Cinderella Man and the 2 SHITTIEST BATMAN MOVIES EVER MADE: Batman Forever and Batman & Robin.

Fuck you Fox.

FUCK YOU FOX.
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No, fuck hugh! I loved Cinderella Man.
 
Well, at least Akiva Goldsman is only producing... although that lead to the likes of I Am Legend and Constantine...
 
FoneBone said:
Yeah, rebooting only 5 (or fewer) years after the last film worked so well with the Hulk..
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Financially? It was about the same. In terms of quality? Much better. Loved The Incredible Hulk.

But on that note, Incredible Hulk was not a true reboot. It was made with the first movie in mind, only spending the opening credits doing an origin.

I think Marvel was happy with it (considering it was a quasi-sequel and a followup to a movie that had a mediocre response from fans) thanks to the rumors that Ed is going to have a cameo in IM2, leading into Avengers.
 
I still want to know why Deadpool's included with X-Men. I know that Marvel handling his solo movie would be amazing.
 
polyh3dron said:
When you want to reboot your comic franchise and make it more true to the essence of the original work, you DON'T hire Hackiva Goldsman.

This was the guy behind the butcher job of I, Robot, The Da Vinci Code, Angels & Demons, I Am Legend, A Beautiful Mind, Cinderella Man and the 2 SHITTIEST BATMAN MOVIES EVER MADE: Batman Forever and Batman & Robin.

Fuck you Fox.

FUCK YOU FOX.
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i loved these movies :(
 
polyh3dron said:
When you want to reboot your comic franchise and make it more true to the essence of the original work, you DON'T hire Hackiva Goldsman.

This was the guy behind the butcher job of I, Robot, The Da Vinci Code, Angels & Demons, I Am Legend, A Beautiful Mind, Cinderella Man and the 2 SHITTIEST BATMAN MOVIES EVER MADE: Batman Forever and Batman & Robin.

Fuck you Fox.

FUCK YOU FOX.
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How dare you.
 
gdt5016 said:
Absolutely never. Every single executive would have to be lobotomized before they sell those rights back to Disney.
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Eh, never is too strong. If the next DareDevil and Fantastic Four movies come out and tank again, I'd guess Fox would be willing to hear some offers from Marvel/Disney. But with Spider-Man and Xmen, Marvel might be in trouble. They'd really have to pray that Fox and Sony pull some Batman & Robin shit to get those franchises back.
 
polyh3dron said:
When you want to reboot your comic franchise and make it more true to the essence of the original work, you DON'T hire Hackiva Goldsman.

This was the guy behind the butcher job of I, Robot, The Da Vinci Code, Angels & Demons, I Am Legend, A Beautiful Mind, Cinderella Man and the 2 SHITTIEST BATMAN MOVIES EVER MADE: Batman Forever and Batman & Robin.

Fuck you Fox.

FUCK YOU FOX.
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I can't understand putting those movies alongside Batman & Robin and Angels & Demons.

Even I, Robot is nowhere as bad.
 
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Galactus am approve
 
I dont mind a reboot. An ultimate version of FF would be cool With a young Reed without the silver streaks in his hair. But no Fox plz
 
suaveric said:
Eh, never is too strong. If the next DareDevil and Fantastic Four movies come out and tank again, I'd guess Fox would be willing to hear some offers from Marvel/Disney. But with Spider-Man and Xmen, Marvel might be in trouble. They'd really have to pray that Fox and Sony pull some Batman & Robin shit to get those franchises back.
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I think Fox would be more than willing to sell the FF and Daredevil rights back to Marvel/Disney. The real issue is whether Disney would want to buy those rights in the first place.
 
Blader5489 said:
I think Fox would be more than willing to sell the FF and Daredevil rights back to Marvel/Disney. The real issue is whether Disney would want to buy those rights in the first place.
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I would LOVE to see Daredevil done write. Get Bendis and Brubaker in there to look over the production.
 
omg rite said:
I think Marvel was happy with it (considering it was a quasi-sequel and a followup to a movie that had a mediocre response from fans) thanks to the rumors that Ed is going to have a cameo in IM2, leading into Avengers.
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If Marvel was happy with it, they'd be planning a sequel, and wouldn't have axed the Hulk cartoon that was announced before the movie hit. And if the Hulk is in the Avengers movie, there's no way Norton will be playing him. After all the behind-the-scenes conflict for Incredible Hulk -- and Marvel barely breaking even at best -- they're not going to put up with his crap again.
 
Grecco said:
I dont mind a reboot. An ultimate version of FF would be cool With a young Reed without the silver streaks in his hair. But no Fox plz
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I bet they dont have the rights to the "ultimate" incarnations of the characters
 
There's always some stupid or nagging point from turning any Fox movies (save some Searchlight titles) from being ok or decent to good, or even great. Anyone else notice this? Everything they release is just passable at best, no matter how big the movie is. Looking at my BD collection, Fox is almost completely absent. This is the last 20 years or so that I'm talking about.

Their best movies from the '90s are:
Office Space
The Thin Red Line
Home Alone
Die Hard 2 and Die Hard With a Vengeance
Mrs. Doubtfire
Speed
True Lies
There's Something About Mary
Fight Club.


This decade, they've had:
Minority Report (one of my favourites I must admit)
Master and Commander
I, Robot
Man on Fire
Mr and Mrs Smith (also one of my favourites)
Taken (also one of my favourites)


Ok, so they aren't all terrible, they've had more noteables than I remember, but my point is that I cringe whenever I see that big FOX logo at the beginning of movies, who doesn't? They need to stop doing shit like this. If you look at the whole list of shit they've done in the past 20 years, it's pretty ugly.

I think with every passing decade, their quality is decreasing and Fox Searchlight is becoming their only saving grace.

Ok, final point, there's no reason to hope or believe that this is going to be any good either.
 
What is the definitive word on the Spider-Man rights? Is it a perpetuity thing or is it six films or what?

YYZ said:
This decade, they've had:
Minority Report (one of my favourites I must admit)
Master and Commander
I, Robot
Man on Fire
Mr and Mrs Smith (also one of my favourites)
Taken (also one of my favourites)
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Fox was only the distributor for Taken and Mr. and Mrs. Smith.
 
Plywood said:
The fact that the second movie sucked?
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The FF movies bother me, in that they are the definition of mediocre. In terms of flat out sucking, I'd give that to movies like Elektra. But the FF movies had such an obvious ability to be great. The casting on The Thing and Torch was awesome, but then Alba was very bad and the overall script was just poor.
 
YYZ said:
There's always some stupid or nagging point from turning any Fox movies (save some Searchlight titles) from being ok or decent to good, or even great. Anyone else notice this? Everything they release is just passable at best, no matter how big the movie is. Looking at my BD collection, Fox is almost completely absent. This is the last 20 years or so that I'm talking about.

Their best movies from the '90s are:
Office Space
The Thin Red Line
Home Alone
Die Hard 2 and Die Hard With a Vengeance
Mrs. Doubtfire
Speed
True Lies
There's Something About Mary
Fight Club.


This decade, they've had:
Minority Report (one of my favourites I must admit)
Master and Commander
I, Robot
Man on Fire
Mr and Mrs Smith (also one of my favourites)
Taken (also one of my favourites)


Ok, so they aren't all terrible, they've had more noteables than I remember, but my point is that I cringe whenever I see that big FOX logo at the beginning of movies, who doesn't? They need to stop doing shit like this. If you look at the whole list of shit they've done in the past 20 years, it's pretty ugly.

I think with every passing decade, their quality is decreasing and Fox Searchlight is becoming their only saving grace.

Ok, final point, there's no reason to hope or believe that this is going to be any good either.
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Mr. and Mrs. Smith was awesome. Represent.

However, Taken was ruined for me by someone pointing out how the daughter ran. :lol
 
As a person who's unfamiliar with Fantastic Four comics or past media, I don't give a shit about them and never will.

Rebooting the franchise would be a bad idea, I think.
 
Dan said:
What is the definitive word on the Spider-Man rights? Is it a perpetuity thing or is it six films or what?


Fox was only the distributor for Taken and Mr. and Mrs. Smith.
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Well, there you go, minus one :lol
 
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