Escape Goat
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ivysaur12 said:
Well obviously. I meant that Fox still had questions and hadn't written them off completely. Its better to have them involved rather than throw than give them no input and start the clock.
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Well obviously. I meant that Fox still had questions and hadn't written them off completely. Its better to have them involved rather than throw than give them no input and start the clock.
Al-ibn Kermit
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Really, they don't count you if you're fast-forwarding through the commercials?mm04 said:
InaudibleWhispa
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Dunno if this has been posted yet, but a couple of the shows producers answered twitter questions. Here's executive producer Joel Wyman's answers, and here's Tanya Swerlings.
Escape Goat
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Also, Astrid was looking very Halle Berry-ish. She looked hot.
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She's really cute, but I thought wig [was it even a wig?] looked awful.Teh Hamburglar said:
It was like, Jack's young Dr. hair levels of hilarity.
maruchan said:
That's an interesting theory. It's quite possible that having the friendship with Bell could've had a more positive effect in the development of Walter's intellect. That is if you believe by surrounding smart people with more smart people, they become more capable of great things. I certainly don't think it hurt Walter's intelligence (other than Bell taking parts of his brain out!).
Guardian Bob
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Kinda hated that episode. Peter never existing really makes no sense.
@TiffanyJWarren if Peter never existed none of the series exists either because Walter never would have gone to bring him over to cure him...@TSFringe well... he existed in that timeline - but once he created the bridge to save these 2 universes... he served his purpose
This really does not answer the question at all.
They really need to simplify the story, and go back and watch season 1 again.
@TiffanyJWarren if Peter never existed none of the series exists either because Walter never would have gone to bring him over to cure him...@TSFringe well... he existed in that timeline - but once he created the bridge to save these 2 universes... he served his purpose
This really does not answer the question at all.
They really need to simplify the story, and go back and watch season 1 again.
Al-ibn Kermit
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I think it's going to have a pretty simple explanation, there's a new timeline that just has the people who are in the room working on the machine (and their alternates). These few dozen members of each Fringe team are going to figure out a way of either totally combining both universes or splitting them up without issue.
If that's what happens, then Peter will probably be back within the first few episodes next season. They're not going to permanently cut him out of the show when in the middle of explaining everything.
If that's what happens, then Peter will probably be back within the first few episodes next season. They're not going to permanently cut him out of the show when in the middle of explaining everything.
You couldn't be more wrong.Guardian Bob said:
Also, not knowing the answer to something doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. Do you honestly think that's the last we'll see of Peter, that the show will forever continue without him? He'll come back and the exact anomaly in time that made him disappear will be explored. Count on it.
Keyser Soze said:
http://fringepedia.net/wiki/Conrad_Moreau
He already has had a younger actor. In S1
big ander said:
Then what was the point of his disappearance? Being so certain on that point just robs the episode of any emotional resonance it may have had in the same way Olivia's death was thanks to its taking place in futureland. If the cliffhanger is going to pay off in any meaningful way Peter has to stay blinked out of existence, at least in the "prime" string of universes. Otherwise he may as well be a member of the X-Men inasmuch as he'll never, ever die.
It's not like Joshua Jackson needs to be out of a job. Perhaps he could play alternate future Peter on the quest to build the machine and send it into the past. Maybe in the series finale he can cross space and time and meet prime present Olivia under an assumed identity if you want to create some sort of sentimental closure to that relationship.
I'm happy about the First People reveal. When Olivia's face popped up on that scroll I started getting Alias flashbacks, and that's a bad thing. The Fringe writers found a way of explaining why Peter and Olivia were so important without relying on prophecies, omens, or other nonsensical bullshit and I applaud them for that. The more they avoid "All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again." and "It's the will of the island!", the better.
You're right that he may not come back in the same way. This show has played with downloading people into computers and going inside dead peoples brains and time travel. He could come back in any number of ways.Balphon said:
But you said his disappearance didn't make sense. That's what I don't get. We don't know what his disappearance was yet. That was the cliffhanger. And he'll probably go through a ton of obstacles on his way to getting back, and again he probably won't come back whole. Whatever he loses on his way will give the cliffhanger meaning.
As for the other part of your original post: going back to the simpler story of season 1 is the worst idea. The reason seasons 2 and 3 were so good is that the show got weird, embraced its weirdness, and successfully executed all of it. We'll have to wait until season 4 to see if it pulls off Peter's disappearance.
Cool stuff with all the twitter questions and that other interview. This is all I've been thinking of today. Still trying to figure out what all is going to happen. Got my brother caught up. He liked it, but just didn't know what to think of the end with Peter disappearing or whatever. He said he is willing to see how it all shakes out though. Should be a long summer.
ElRenoRaven
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So I finally got done watching it. I had to make a choice and Hockey Playoffs won. So the ratings are of course going to be affected by both NBA playoffs and Hockey Playoffs. So I wouldn't worry about them.
Anyway it was a great episode but I just did not like the abrupt ending. Obviously we're going to get that expanded upon next season but imagine if there hadn't been a next season. That would have been an awful way to end the show.
Either way the wait for next season is going to be a very very tough wait.
Anyway it was a great episode but I just did not like the abrupt ending. Obviously we're going to get that expanded upon next season but imagine if there hadn't been a next season. That would have been an awful way to end the show.
Either way the wait for next season is going to be a very very tough wait.
Again this show fails to really keep my attention in the end or make me care about these characters. This happens at the end of every season. They have this big lead up and end with a giant "meh". A solid episode overall but mostly served as a midseason episode. It didnt really feel like a finale.
Didnt even care when Olivia died because I dont give a shit about her. These writers need to do a better job of making me give a crap about anyone other than Walter. Take for instance the last ep when Peter was going to step into the machine. They had this long drawn out moment and I was confused because I forgot I was suppose to care about him being in a dangerous situation. Hes no Omar Little.
And another small gripe will be how the production limitations of the show will have us watching a bunch of over the shoulder camera scenes when the alternate characters interact. Those scenes always annoy me because they are never interesting to watch.
Anyways...
But my question would be what exactly does the machine do? Does it have the power to show people the future AND merge/destroy worlds? That was my main confusion involving that. Id ask "who created the fake Peter" but Im sure thats a question for next season.
I did like the idea of Peter though. He was created to inject an emotional element into a situation that was mostly about science. Pretty touching when you think about it.
Didnt even care when Olivia died because I dont give a shit about her. These writers need to do a better job of making me give a crap about anyone other than Walter. Take for instance the last ep when Peter was going to step into the machine. They had this long drawn out moment and I was confused because I forgot I was suppose to care about him being in a dangerous situation. Hes no Omar Little.
I was gonna say Charlie but enough comparisons have been drawn to LOST already.
And another small gripe will be how the production limitations of the show will have us watching a bunch of over the shoulder camera scenes when the alternate characters interact. Those scenes always annoy me because they are never interesting to watch.
Anyways...
But my question would be what exactly does the machine do? Does it have the power to show people the future AND merge/destroy worlds? That was my main confusion involving that. Id ask "who created the fake Peter" but Im sure thats a question for next season.
I did like the idea of Peter though. He was created to inject an emotional element into a situation that was mostly about science. Pretty touching when you think about it.
Keyser Soze
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maruchan said:
I am pretty sure every Statue of Liberty shot in the show is CG, so I don't think it orientation is important. They just wanted to make sure people knew what it was for the final shot, so used some artistic licence to frame it in the show.
Big Papa Husker
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I just flipped on the TV and saw that they are reshowing the finale. I just caught the end where Walternate shoots Olivia. :O
Guardian Bob
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big ander said:
Of course I know Peter will be back. Season 1/2 seamed remain focused on a theme or arc and it didn't try and twit the story in the last 5 minuets like every episode in season 3. Sure, this season has some really good episodes, but I feel it's trying too hard to make the show awesome and it's getting buried by extra story that it doesn't need.
Guardian Bob
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Let me in said:
It means the writers forgot or ignored it. This seams to happen more and more.
...you do realize that Season 1 solved the pattern and jumped to dynamic alternate universes all in one episode, right? And season 2 played with the narrative by returning to the past?Guardian Bob said:
Or it'll, y'know, come up again. But sure, jump to conclusions.Guardian Bob said:
CajoleJuice
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This post is awesome.Solo said:
Oh and everyone talking about specific episodes of LOST and Fringe, I think White Tulip is probably the best thing either show has done. It's just an unbelievably perfect short sci-fi story. God, I love that episode.
PhoncipleBone
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Not in this universe buddy!Balphon said:
Maybe for a good joke in the op for season 4 when I make it.
PhoncipleBone
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OP updated with a disclaimer.mm04 said:
Keyser Soze
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Going back through the thread, I like that what I said about Agent Amy is kinda what happened to Peter...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=23338276#post23338276
Okay, maybe it is a stretch, but I thought it was decent.
Thinking about it, It would be a fantastic way to bring back Amy in season 4
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=23338276#post23338276
Okay, maybe it is a stretch, but I thought it was decent.
Thinking about it, It would be a fantastic way to bring back Amy in season 4
PhoncipleBone
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Spoiler about Peter for the Doctor Who people on here.
Peter is on of the Silence! They looked away, then they forgot about him.
water_wendi
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Terribly underwhelming. i doubt ill be watching when the show returns.
Stuggernaut
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Well I liked it.
And every bit of it makes sense in my head so I am content.
Can't wait for next season
If you think of who the watchers are (or more accurately who they HAVE to be), how and why Peter came to be (in the one world), and the revelations of the machine's origin and purpose, then it all fits together quite nicely...albeit not perfectly.
I love paradox and time stuff...very fun to wrap your head around.
And every bit of it makes sense in my head so I am content.
Can't wait for next season
If you think of who the watchers are (or more accurately who they HAVE to be), how and why Peter came to be (in the one world), and the revelations of the machine's origin and purpose, then it all fits together quite nicely...albeit not perfectly.
I love paradox and time stuff...very fun to wrap your head around.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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What... the fuck?
Just caught the finale. Whoa. Paradoxes, man.
I do hope they actually deal with the First People. I like the idea of the paradox, but I'm hoping something comes about with that idea.
And Peter never existed? The hell?
Just caught the finale. Whoa. Paradoxes, man.
I do hope they actually deal with the First People. I like the idea of the paradox, but I'm hoping something comes about with that idea.
And Peter never existed? The hell?
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