super-famicom
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Those new systems sound pretty awesome. But hard mode? I might never make it out of the first sector on hard mode D:
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Those new systems sound pretty awesome. But hard mode? I might never make it out of the first sector on hard mode D:
SwiftDeath
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Hard Mode?
Lordy my future is bleak
Lordy my future is bleak
in the best possible way
Weltall Zero
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Fuck yes Hard Mode! Pretty much the one thing I wanted!
Edit: Was this known? There seems to be bars physically adjacent to each weapon showing their recharge status, they show this in the GIF for hacking weapon systems:
I also loved how the one crew member whose name we see is specifically Notch.
Unfortunately, hacking can only teleport boarders back to their ship, not the opposite.
THAT SAID, you can do exactly that with mind control! MC one of their crew, beam them into your mantis-crowded teleporter and watch the walls get painted in red.
Edit: Was this known? There seems to be bars physically adjacent to each weapon showing their recharge status, they show this in the GIF for hacking weapon systems:
I also loved how the one crew member whose name we see is specifically Notch.
Unfortunately, hacking can only teleport boarders back to their ship, not the opposite.
THAT SAID, you can do exactly that with mind control! MC one of their crew, beam them into your mantis-crowded teleporter and watch the walls get painted in red.
I'm more interested in the hack passive ability. The only counter an enemy has to getting their faces clawed off is running away. If the hack locks doors just long enough then my cute little Mantissss will be able to have a picnic without those pesky med bays being a concern.Unfortunately, hacking can only teleport boarders back to their ship, not the opposite.
THAT SAID, you can do exactly that with mind control! MC one of their crew, beam them into your mantis-crowded teleporter and watch the walls get painted in red.
Although... I wonder if enemy ships will have clone bays. If so I wonder what's going to prevent me from power-leveling the crap out of my boarding crew.
All in on hard mode. Some of the current ships seem a bit OP for normal anyway.
Weltall Zero
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I'm more interested in the hack passive ability. The only counter an enemy has to getting their faces clawed off is running away. If the hack locks doors just long enough then my cute little Mantissss will be able to have a picnic without those pesky med bays being a concern.
Ah, I see! Wow, that's an awesome combo indeed, didn't even think of that! It's pretty great how many new strategies all of these systems open up right off the bat.
I'm almost sure we'll see enemy ships with all these systems; seems like a ship with a clone system could be quite a challenge for a board-centric ship, depending on how fast they can churn them out.
Agreed, the Kestrel, Zoltan, Fed Cruiser and especially the Crystal Ship are quite OP. Whereas I hate playing as the Rock Ship...
SwiftDeath
Member
But you get TWO missile launchers to start, not one but TWO!
lol I've gotten to the 4th sector without another weapon before. It was painful
Weltall Zero
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Yeah, me too, a few times even. I already hated missiles even before playing it, but after that... ugh. Worse, I've played a lot of games with it and I've yet to unlock more than one of its achievements for the Layout B. On the other hand, its Layout B sounds like pure torture. No hatchs!?
SwiftDeath
Member
Getting all the rock ship achievements is the great joke given to us mortals by the RNG gods. Getting the crystal ship ugh
You can buy a door system for 60 scrap from a shop with the layout b though. I think a lot of people recommend it's not worth the money but screw that I need my doors
super-famicom
Member
I've always found the Rock Ship to be about as useful as a real rock. I always have to pray to the RNG gods that I get a laser in sector 1, but that rarely happens. I often run out of missiles and die before sector 4-5.
Its only real use is in getting the Crystal ship, which is a tough feat in itself.
Its only real use is in getting the Crystal ship, which is a tough feat in itself.
SwiftDeath
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Yep I dislike missiles as a main source of offense due to the need for ammo. I've never really had successful missile runs where I didn't end up having to buy missile ammo almost constantly near the end.
PandaPedinte
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SwiftDeath
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OMG OMG OMG
DiscoShark
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That's a bump I can appreciate.
Iced_Eagle
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DiscoShark
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Polygon just did a pretty great interview of the developers in which they show off about 20 minutes of some FTL Advanced Edition gameplay.
http://www.polygon.com/2014/3/21/5527136/ftl-advanced-edition-gameplay-video
http://www.polygon.com/2014/3/21/5527136/ftl-advanced-edition-gameplay-video
PandaPedinte
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That interview was great.
LethalFrag is currently playing through the Advanced Edition, the new additions look great!
PandaPedinte
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It's updating! It's updating!
Funky Functionality
Member
Oh man oh man oh man, today is suddenly so beautiful.
There's a certain level of evil joy that I experience whenever I send off a Mantis boarding party.
It is time. The song of my people rings anew.
Majukun
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Ilúvatar;106796783 said:
sensor makes you see the rooms of the enemy ships at lv 2..at 3 i think you can see the energy of each system
with the door,the lv 2 gives you reinforced doors,the third one gives you fireproof doors if i remember correcty
anyway..tried a run at normal,and unsurprisingly the game is kicking my ass..i didn't play this game for a while..tried the new ship with the new race,it's interesting and really useful against boarding crews,but it's kinda complicated if you have a mixed race crew,since all the rooms where they are are without oxygen.
also tried the hacking system,it's really good but kinda limited at the first level
PandaPedinte
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Cool, now there are Anti-Ship Battery on planets!
Speaking of... It didn't take long. An ASB killed my entire boarding party. Three Crystals and a Mantis. All had max melee combat training. All dead.
Haven't finished my first game yet. The new changes and soundtrack have been top notch so far. Excellent update.
Also, farming rebel ships for score is a little more difficult now. Great change there!
super-famicom
Member
Does anyone know if the update messes up mods? I only run visual ones (better planets and backgrounds and a weapon reskin one) but I guess I'll disable everything and play advanced vanilla for a while.
Edit: Mods installed via the Slipstream Mod Manager don't work and cause the game to crash upon loading. Play vanilla for now until the mod manager gets an update.
Edit: Mods installed via the Slipstream Mod Manager don't work and cause the game to crash upon loading. Play vanilla for now until the mod manager gets an update.
Well, 3 times I've gotten to the boss with the new content. 3 times I've lost thanks to the new additions. On the last run I thought I was playing smart by taking out all the crew during the second stage except for the laser guy. A couple minutes into the third stage my pilot is taken out of commission just in time for 3 lasers to knock out my shields and a power surge to set fire to half my ship and take me from half health to 1.
Weltall Zero
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Not my experience. I used my custom background mod (a combination of HD Planets and Better Planets) and it worked without a hitch.
SwiftDeath
Member
Did my first playthrough on advanced with the new ship on easy to try and get a feel for the new systems
Do hacking drones not get picked up by the drone arm?
Do hacking drones not get picked up by the drone arm?
My Descent Into Darkness modded version crashed hard. Even after uninstalling it. Something has been left behind that I need to root out. Had to install to a different folder to get it to work. Haven't tried it with my old visual mods yet.
Did you use the mod manager to install them? I believe that's what may be doing it.
It doesn't seem so.
Still getting a feel for all the new systems. Played a little bit with the new ship, and played around with having the two Lannius guys as a boarding party. While they don't do as much damage as the Mantis, the oxygen drain can be pretty devastating, especially with two of them in the same room. Dropping them in a full room then hacking it so that the enemy can't escape the sudden indoor vacuum is pretty neat.
You what's the biggest deal with lannius? You can't suffocate them. I often use updgraded doors to keep enemy at bay and just evacuate all the air... Then i get some lannius on my ship. Welp, gotta get people to fight them, except, you know, they're suffocating there...
I often don't have enough crew for fighting so i'm forced to suffocate invaders. If i have the teleport system, then i of course try to get more crew and train them in combat.
The mind control system is so damn great for me...
Yeah, being boarded by the Lannius is kind of rough. Getting them in a room that can hold three or four people and outnumbering them seems to be the best bet.
Weltall Zero
Member
Yep, latest version of Slipstream Mod Manager. Worked like a charm.
super-famicom
Member
Hmm, when I tried it, I
1)ran Slipstream without checking the boxes for the mods I wanted to install, to force the vanilla resource.dat, then
2)ran it again with only Better Planets and Backgrounds checked.
When I started the game, the loading bar would fill up, then crash to desktop when it got full. Even just doing step 1 has the same effect. I'm on OSX mavericks and play FTL via Steam with the latest version of Slipstream. I'll check again, but I suspect that since there are backgrounds that have new effects (background rebels shooting at you, ion pulse stars), the background mod might not be compatible. I'll try messing around with the mod again.
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I think I fixed everything. I deleted everything in the backup folder located in the Slipstream mod folder. Reinstalled FTL, applied the Better Planets and Backgrounds mod and FTL is up and running!
PandaPedinte
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I was rushing to sector 8 with the Red Tail just unlock Kestrel C and I accidentally ended unlocking the Stealth Cruiser too! The funny thing is every time I tried to unlock it before I didn't get the events and this time I wasn't even paying attention.
I'm liking the new weapons, one of my favorites so far is a laser that can cause hull damage and there is the Chain Laser as you keep shooting the time to recharge lessen.
I'm liking the new weapons, one of my favorites so far is a laser that can cause hull damage and there is the Chain Laser as you keep shooting the time to recharge lessen.
O.DOGG
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So I tried playing with my favorite ship - the stealth cruiser, got to the boss, beat him twice (though how do you deal with the hacking drones??), and then a combination of my guns missing (yeah, same old story), enemy mind control and the super shield screwed me over. Damn, it seems like you absolutely need drones and mind control systems now, huh?
Weltall Zero
Member
Ahhh, that might be it, since my Slipstream was indeed a clean install. Glad to know it worked for you!
Yeah, I do wonder about how well balanced some of these systems are. As far as I can tell, once you've got a hacking drone on your ship, it's going to be there for the rest of the fight. You can disable it by knocking out the hacking system on the enemy ship, but other than that, you've just got to deal with it.
Mind control seems much the same way. It looks like you can't use it on slugs, but otherwise it's just a matter of just having to deal with it.
PandaPedinte
Member
The slugs are immune to mind control, and a combination of Hacking System + Mind Control can wreck your crew very fast.
I like the way mind control and hacking force me to adapt. The systems or crew they target can really force your tactics. When possible to deal with mind control I micro another crewmate to keep running through the vulnerable system. This minimizes damage to the actual system. I also learned the hard way to put an extra point into Oxygen. If it gets hacked it's important to pump as much fresh air as possible between hacks.
In Vanilla FTL I almost always bought Weapons Pre-Ignitor (for obvious reasons) and Stealth Weapons. Reconstructive Teleport has joined that tier of augment for me. It's so good. Zoltan Shield Bypass is up there as well. The way many of the new items are meant to subvert or tweak the older systems is fantastic.
In Vanilla FTL I almost always bought Weapons Pre-Ignitor (for obvious reasons) and Stealth Weapons. Reconstructive Teleport has joined that tier of augment for me. It's so good. Zoltan Shield Bypass is up there as well. The way many of the new items are meant to subvert or tweak the older systems is fantastic.
SwiftDeath
Member
Depends on your crew buy shield or guns imo as they can repair them very quickly if broken
If you have excess crew though I'd have them not on anything as then they can repair whatever