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Fullmetal Alchemist - Brotherhood Official Discussion Thread

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Kastro

Banned
LaneDS said:
If you look closely, he's got skin on his right arm, which should be all automail.

:lol think that's just an animation goof

also, i never really considered it before but why is he called the "fullmetal" alchemist when he's only partial metal? heh
 

MetatronM

Unconfirmed Member
GaimeGuy said:
Actually, they're really not moving at a super ridiculous pace.

The only major pacing change so far has been in the condensing of Lior from 2 eps to 1 ep. Everything else has been mostly done by completely cutting filler content.
And really, almost all of the stuff that was cut from Lior to cut it down to one episode was stuff that only happened in the first anime and not the manga anyway. The only thing that wasn't really was meeting Rose at the bar near the beginning.


Episode 4 was great, by the way. Definitely the best episode of the series so far. And much darker than the original in a lot of ways.
The first time around, despite his actions, Tucker clearly did what he did "for Nina" in an odd and twisted kind of way. This time around, his ambitions are clearly selfish and personal, all about maintaining his status and prestige. While it is somewhat less shocking this time around (largely because, well, we've covered this territory before), it didn't really lose any of its impact thanks to those changes.
 

Wes

venison crêpe
To be honest I don't remember much of the first run out of FMA but I do remember Nina's little tale. So sad :(
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
MetatronM said:
And really, almost all of the stuff that was cut from Lior to cut it down to one episode was stuff that only happened in the first anime and not the manga anyway. The only thing that wasn't really was meeting Rose at the bar near the beginning.


Episode 4 was great, by the way. Definitely the best episode of the series so far. And much darker than the original in a lot of ways.
The first time around, despite his actions, Tucker clearly did what he did "for Nina" in an odd and twisted kind of way. This time around, his ambitions are clearly selfish and personal, all about maintaining his status and prestige. While it is somewhat less shocking this time around (largely because, well, we've covered this territory before), it didn't really lose any of its impact thanks to those changes.
Yeah,
Not to mention the beatdown that Ed gives Tucker. Absolutely brutal :lol
 
I am greatly enjoying this series. The pacing is to my liking. From what you guys are saying, a bunch of useless filler is being removed, and I approve.

It's a shame about the train fight and the mines, though. I enjoyed those chapters as well, but I agree that they aren't that important.

Can't wait for Episode 4.

Oh, and Brotherhood is still introducing new material; Father Cornello's hulkification was surprising.

On the other hand, it's 95% faithful to the manga, gag scenes and all, and I really, really like that.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
FlightOfHeaven said:
I am greatly enjoying this series. The pacing is to my liking. From what you guys are saying, a bunch of useless filler is being removed, and I approve.

It's a shame about the train fight and the mines, though. I enjoyed those chapters as well, but I agree that they aren't that important.

Can't wait for Episode 4.

Oh, and Brotherhood is still introducing new material; Father Cornello's hulkification was surprising.

On the other hand, it's 95% faithful to the manga, gag scenes and all, and I really, really like that.
HULK SMASH!
 

Fox318

Member
duckroll said:
Guys, I have a theory about Edward Elric, I don't know if it's true, so sorry in advance if it's a spoiler. I think that Ed is lying to everyone that he lost his arm to bring Al back. Why? Because it's obvious he still has his arm and that the "automail" hand is just a metal glove he's wearing. I think Winry is in on it too.

I have proof too...

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Thats just the script supervisor screwing up. You know how actors can be.
 
I just finished episode 2.

Maybe it's just me, but I felt like the first series had a lot more emotional depth.
The choice of scenes and voice of characters, when giving the background of the Eldric brothers story, didn't really evoke as much emotion as the first one did.

I am still going to continue watching the series since I am enjoying it.
 

MetatronM

Unconfirmed Member
bigmit3737 said:
I just finished episode 2.

Maybe it's just me, but I felt like the first series had a lot more emotional depth.
The choice of scenes and voice of characters, when giving the background of the Eldric brothers story, didn't really evoke as much emotion as the first one did.

I am still going to continue watching the series since I am enjoying it.
They're pretty clearly aiming to hit different notes on the material that they're having to cover over again.

That makes some elements of their backstory a little less emotional, but it also gives deeper insight into what Ed in particular had to go through.

So I think it's at least equally deep, albeit in a different way.
 
Saw ep. 4 last night, job well done. I'm really enjoying the fact that most of the filler is actually being cut & used in ways that make sense rather being cut out altogether;
Youswell & Youki being referenced in a report was a good way to integrate the town & character
.

Despite seeing the original series, I was never really that attached to it (CoS really killed any remaining attachments that I might have had) but was always more fond of the manga. The fact that Brotherhood is much more closer to the manga (as well as upped the pacing a bit) makes this series much more enjoyable to watch.

Ed's beatdown of Tucker as well as Scar's kills seemed more brutal this time around than in the first series.
 

slayn

needs to show more effort.
MetatronM said:
And really, almost all of the stuff that was cut from Lior to cut it down to one episode was stuff that only happened in the first anime and not the manga anyway. The only thing that wasn't really was meeting Rose at the bar near the beginning.


Episode 4 was great, by the way. Definitely the best episode of the series so far. And much darker than the original in a lot of ways.
The first time around, despite his actions, Tucker clearly did what he did "for Nina" in an odd and twisted kind of way. This time around, his ambitions are clearly selfish and personal, all about maintaining his status and prestige. While it is somewhat less shocking this time around (largely because, well, we've covered this territory before), it didn't really lose any of its impact thanks to those changes.
completely disagree

I think the fact that tucker's actions were for nina in the first made it far more impactful. There was a good intention to take care of his daughter twisted beyond all reason through fear of poverty. It was pretty creepy to realize the first time and its all the more horiffic because his evil actions are somewhat spawned from a desire that the viewer can relate to but taking it to a horrible conclusion. This time around he's just a simple selfish badguy. Far more boring.

Having scar simply kill them both at the end is a lot better though.
 

duckroll

Member
http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20090428_167820.html

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-04-28/fullmetam-alchemist-ova-on-1st-brotherhood-disc

The first Blu-ray Disc and DVD volume for the Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood anime series will include a Mōmoku no Renkinjutshi (Blind Alchemist) OVA when Aniplex ships it on August 26. The OVA is based on the side story of the same name that manga creator Hiromu Arakawa drew for the Fullmetal Alchemist Guidebook. The first Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood disc release will also feature the first two episodes from the television series. The Limited Initial Edition will add "Hiromu Arakawa's 4-Panel Theater," which will be the first time that Arakawa's four-panel gag manga have been animated. The other extras will include an "Eye Catch Card" illustrated with the commercial bumper artwork from the anime and a 16-page Alchemist's Log about the behind-the-scenes production. Hiroki Kanno is drawing the disc jacket illustrations. Arakawa herself will illustrate a "Rouge" box for the first four volumes.

Note that there's no actual "limited edition" version, they just mean the first pressing.
 

Pein

Banned
new episode is up on the funimation fma site, just finished watching it and was kinda disappointed.

I felt the original series made that whole scene way more emotional, but it was still good just not great like the original.
 
Pein said:
new episode is up on the funimation fma site, just finished watching it and was kinda disappointed.

I felt the original series made that whole scene way more emotional, but it was still good just not great like the original.

They are blazing past old content at the moment, and they can't do things the way they used to since it's already been done.
 

Epcott

Member
I really like the new series, but I enjoyed the pacing and unfolding of key events in the first series. Edwards test to become State Alchemist was much more grand in the first series, this current episode dealing with Nina
I miss the rain soaked streets, the poor splattering of Nina against the wall, the death of Basque Gran being more fiersome and putting up more of a fight

In some ways, it feels too streamlined, but I suppose that's how mangas are compared to their drawn out anime counterparts, eh?
 

Masked Man

I said wow
Epcott said:
I really like the new series, but I enjoyed the pacing and unfolding of key events in the first series. Edwards test to become State Alchemist was much more grand in the first series, this current episode dealing with Nina
I miss the rain soaked streets, the poor splattering of Nina against the wall, the death of Basque Gran being more fiersome and putting up more of a fight

To be fair, though,
Tucker and Nina's deaths were played out exactly as in the manga. The "wall splatter," however visually striking and moving it may have been, was an anime thing.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
As I mentioned, they didn't spend THAT much less time on nina/tucker than in the first series. in the first series, they spent a little bit of time introducing the characters during the alchemy exam episode. In the end, nina/tucker was maybe 4-5 minutes longer than in Brotherhood simply because they had the characters introduced before their episode started.

Nostalgia is getting to you guys :p
 

duckroll

Member
Negaiido said:
What's that, what you're thinking?

You can't blame FUNi for enforcing their copyright on something, just because there is no European distributor willing to stream it in English. Come on...
 

Negaiido

Member
duckroll said:
You can't blame FUNi for enforcing their copyright on something, just because there is no European distributor willing to stream it in English. Come on...

They don't have any rights in Europe so they can't send C & D's to europeans.
 

duckroll

Member
Negaiido said:
They don't have any rights in Europe so they can't send C & D's to europeans.

So you're saying that it should be okay to pirate something as long as it is not currently available in your country? Is that it? :)
 

Negaiido

Member
duckroll said:
So you're saying that it should be okay to pirate something as long as it is not currently available in your country? Is that it? :)

Well yeah :D If that's the only way to get anime, that's the way I'll take.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
so, Sunday morning is the time to watch these things on funimations website.

I just caught up on two episodes without having to wait for it to buffer every 5 seconds. The other times I've tried to watch at night were a chore.

I really like it more than the original series to this point. It seems a little darker and the Elrich's aren't as innocent as they were in the old anime.

That said, I really really hate the "goofy" looking comedic animation they are overusing in this. I would much prefer if they stopped that.

Edit: It's on Hulu, that's probably why the stream is working better.
 

Won

Member
CurseoftheGods said:
I just noticed something in the intro.

Is it Edward waving his arms at the beginning or
Envy
?

The very first scene in the intro? It's
neither of them.
 

Zoe

Member
CurseoftheGods said:
I just noticed something in the intro.

Is it Edward waving his arms at the beginning or
Envy
?

Stop thinking of the first series!
 

diunxx

Member
That was a funny ban considering that 90% of the people watching the show here is downloading the fansubs.
 

duckroll

Member
Hey, I was trying to sleep and I started thinking about something, and I just couldn't stop thinking about it. It's bugging the hell out of me.

Okay, so in the first series, the Uroboros logo's center is made up of 6 small triangles that kinda form the Star of David. In the manga, the center of the logo is always drawn clearly as the Star of David, with no attempt to shy away from it. Now we're on the remake, and while pretty much all the designs are much closer to the manga versions, the Uroboros logo looks EXACTLY like the one in the first series.

What gives? Is there some censorship law I'm not aware of? Why would anyone in Japan care about the Star of David so much that they would be bothered by it being in the Uroboros logo?

Help! :(
 

Masked Man

I said wow
Hm, I didn't pick up on that, duckroll! Interesting, though. I wonder if they will also alter the
Greed crucifix
scene because of the religious imagery.
 
duckroll said:
Hey, I was trying to sleep and I started thinking about something, and I just couldn't stop thinking about it. It's bugging the hell out of me.

Okay, so in the first series, the Uroboros logo's center is made up of 6 small triangles that kinda form the Star of David. In the manga, the center of the logo is always drawn clearly as the Star of David, with no attempt to shy away from it. Now we're on the remake, and while pretty much all the designs are much closer to the manga versions, the Uroboros logo looks EXACTLY like the one in the first series.

What gives? Is there some censorship law I'm not aware of? Why would anyone in Japan care about the Star of David so much that they would be bothered by it being in the Uroboros logo?

Help! :(

Are you watching a fansubbed version of the Funi subs? Maybe it's different between the two...
 
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