G-Sync is the god-level gaming upgrade.
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Since it would not include the info on when the console was updating frames, it would be pointless.
PC hardware which has a HDMI input is called a capture card. I use one for all my console gaming.
However, what you envision wouldn't work: the signal it captures is already the fixed-framerate output of the console, all the drawbacks of V-sync (or lack thereof) included.
fifasnipe2224
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Does the Acer XG270HU have an ULMB or LightBoost feature?
Which one are you using? I've been thinking about getting the Avermedia Live Gamer HD (Lite)
There certainly are/have been some quality issues. But recent models (April, May, I don't think a June batch is out yet) seem to have been significantly improved on that front. And don't forget that especially in this price class some people demand perfect products - also a major factor why certain threads on the internet read like this was the worst display ever in terms of quality control.
I just got the Acer XG270HU and it support ULMB at 80Hz and 100 Hz. The only issue is as far as I know you can't activate Gsync and ULMB at the same time, it's either one or the other.
I prefer to use Gsync.
The Acer XG270HU is FreeSync tho? Or am I mixing things up?
Xcell Miguel
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I own the Acer XB270HU since April (built in January), had a little backlight bleeding in the bottom right, but now it seem gone, and that's what other owners seems to note now.
I have only one dead sub-pixel (red that stays black) in the right, invisible unless you show a full red image and look for it. Apparently build quality has improved since April models.
In the Acer XB270HU thread I posted photos in April, showing the BLB, took the same photo with the same settings a few minutes ago, looks like BLB is gone or less visible.
Angle is not the exact same so IPS Glow is different, but it looks like the bottom right BLB is not there anymore.
Post from April :
I took some photos, screen set in Standard mode, so brightness is set to 100%.
I locked my phone on ISO 400 and 1/20s exposure time to make lighting constant between photos and not to accentuate the effect, even if it's still more visible in photos than in real life.
Front :
So I get a little BLB in the bottom right, not a big deal, only visible on some dark scenes.
IPS glow is almost invisible.
Now :
I was using a Blackmagic Intensity Pro for 5 years or so until now, just today my new BMI Pro 4k arrived, but I'll probably only get to using it this weekend.
I use my own software which builds directly on the BM API (to work around any input latency introduced by the software stack as much as possible).
Razzorn34
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Well yeah. If i'm going to shell out $800 for a monitor, it had better be close to perfect out of the box. Is there any way to guarantee one of the later models? Maybe buy from a certain outlet? I'm looking to pick one up, but playing RMA roulette is definitely not something I want to get in to.
No you're correct. XG270HU is a FreeSync display. ULMB is a feature of G-Sync displays, although other vendors have similar strobing features. The XB270HU is Acer's 25x14 IPS G-Sync/ULMB display.
You could try adding the application you want to exclude from G-Sync and setting Monitor Technology to Fixed Refresh.
That's what I was looking for! Monitor Technology! It doesn't work with all programs but it definitely fixed iTunes! Thanks.
What purpose do you use a capture card for? Recording? Any other potential benefits?
Well yeah. Display HDMI-in on your PC, record footage from the source and stream it if you so desire. That's pretty much it.
Grats & enjoy that baby.
I have a 7 year old monitor that I am dieing to replace.
Do u see a great diffreance from 1080p to 1440p in gaming?
Yes, everything is a lot sharper and it also looks a bit wider (don't know if that's right tough, could be my eyes). And I love smaller text and HUD.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Cheers everyone for the earlier feedback RE input lag.
Think I'll pull the trigger on the AOC tonight.
Think I'll pull the trigger on the AOC tonight.
I think it was mainly the earlier panels that had issues. Mine was manufactured in May, and I got it mid-June.
I scanned my monitor like a hawk when it arrived, and it was almost perfect. No dead pixels or dust under the screen. However I did have the bottom right hand corner IPS glow/backlight bleed. It was pretty noticeable when I originally did the dead-pixel check with a completely black background, but I didn't notice it while gaming. 4 weeks after I've had this monitor, the bleed is "fading" and doing the black background dead-pixel check now, it's still there but it's getting harder to try and see it.
Sigh, i am in total lost on what to do.
Invest in a GOOD 1440p like the XB270HU or go on something like the QNIX QX2710 with no Gsync
, Or to go 4K
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TPGCAAS/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Invest in a GOOD 1440p like the XB270HU or go on something like the QNIX QX2710 with no Gsync
, Or to go 4Khttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TPGCAAS/?tag=neogaf0e-20
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Picked up the AOC G2460PG today and either my monitor has problems or it doesn't work as I thought it would and thus I'm disappointed.
Keeping it simple: colours are fucked up with G-Sync enabled, particularly blacks, resulting in a shitty crosshair look. Here's an off screen shot of a vista in Wild Hunt taken at the same time of day, one with G-Sync the other without. The difference speaks for itself.
I tried Half-Life 2 and noticed this as well. What gives?
I've set the monitor at 120hz @ 1080p.
Keeping it simple: colours are fucked up with G-Sync enabled, particularly blacks, resulting in a shitty crosshair look. Here's an off screen shot of a vista in Wild Hunt taken at the same time of day, one with G-Sync the other without. The difference speaks for itself.
I tried Half-Life 2 and noticed this as well. What gives?
I've set the monitor at 120hz @ 1080p.
Dictator93
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Picked up the AOC G2460PG today and either my monitor has problems or it doesn't work as I thought it would and thus I'm disappointed.
Keeping it simple: colours are fucked up with G-Sync enabled, particularly blacks, resulting in a shitty crosshair look. Here's an off screen shot of a vista in Wild Hunt taken at the same time of day, one with G-Sync the other without. The difference speaks for itself.
I tried Half-Life 2 and noticed this as well. What gives?
I've set the monitor at 120hz @ 1080p.
Are you accidentally having ULMB on?
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Can't enable ULMB while G-Sync is active, so no.
Picked up the AOC G2460PG today and either my monitor has problems or it doesn't work as I thought it would and thus I'm disappointed.
Keeping it simple: colours are fucked up with G-Sync enabled, particularly blacks, resulting in a shitty crosshair look. Here's an off screen shot of a vista in Wild Hunt taken at the same time of day, one with G-Sync the other without. The difference speaks for itself.
I tried Half-Life 2 and noticed this as well. What gives?
I've set the monitor at 120hz @ 1080p.
I'm not sure why you've set 120Hz in G-Sync mode, but anyway, that looks wrong. Have you tried other titles and what driver are you on?
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I noticed some weird banding at 144hz on Steam, though that seems to be kinda gone. Nevertheless, 144/60hz make no different to the issue. Wild Hunt is the outlier in that the issue is more prominent, so maybe it's just the game? But I can also spot it here and there, like in the Warner/Batman video logos that pop up at the start of Arkham Knight. And I noticed it briefly in Half-Life 2, though cannot get the issue to reoccur.
That's the same dithering I experience on my XB240H with Gsync on. Also particularly noticeably in dark environments. Looks awful, and I'm very disappointed that this is something that still hasn't been resolved considering the price tag. It looks worse than my old budget non-gaming monitor.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Dithering is the word I'm looking for. Seems other users are reporting similar impressions of both this monitor and other G-Sync displays. I'll see if anybody else with the same monitor can report the same issues in Wild Hunt. If it's a model issue I'll ask for a refund. If it's just the way these monitors work I'll either see if I can return it and if not sell.
Not interested in the benefits of g-sync at the cost of tone dithering.
That definitely looks off, I can only speak for the XB270HU, but I don't notice any image quality / tone variations / dithering at all between Gsync and non-Gsync mode. Google says the G2460PG and the XB240H use the same panel so that's most likely the culprit.
It surely isn't a G-sync problem, might have to do with the panel in combination with G-sync. I see no difference in color/blacks on the XB270HU.
It should not look that way. There're no such image problems on my Asus PG278Q.
EDIT: It seems several people online have reported that the panel quality is poor and dithering is obvious in some scenes.
It boggles me that this isn't more visibly discussed. Had I known it would have been like this, I would have held off on my purchase. Getting rid of visible color banding and/or dithering was one of my biggest motivations behind switching monitors. But this kind of stuff is never even listed in the specifications on the product page.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Cheers for the feedback guys. Put it back in the box and have shot the retailer a message. Doubt I'll be able to return it, but we'll see. If not I should be able to sell it, if at a loss of my original investment.
Extremely disappointed. Guess I should have done more research, but I wasn't willing to splash out ~AU$800+ for the high end models. From the play I had G-Sync is great, but it most definitely does not in any way make up for poor overall image quality.
Extremely disappointed. Guess I should have done more research, but I wasn't willing to splash out ~AU$800+ for the high end models. From the play I had G-Sync is great, but it most definitely does not in any way make up for poor overall image quality.
BoosterDuck
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just give me a >=24" IPS 120-144 hz 1080p monitor for $400 and I'll give you moneyz nvidia
cripterion
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Would you guys recommend a ROG Swift or a Predator XB270HU to a SLI GTX 970 user? Anyone using such a setup care to comment on the experience?
I really want to change my monitor (currently on this old Acer H233H) but worried about the 3.5gig at 1440P.
I really want to change my monitor (currently on this old Acer H233H) but worried about the 3.5gig at 1440P.
I think the Predator is pretty much regarded as the best all around Gsync monitor currently. I have a Swift and kind of wish I had waited a little longer to get the predator, especially since they run about the same price.
I have a single 970, and it works pretty well with most games at 1440p Gsync. Most modern AAA games will sit in the 45-60 FPS zone that gsync excels with. So SLI I'd imagine would be even more comfortable. Just keep in mind you can't do SLI + Gsync + DSR currently.
ThoseDeafMutes
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I don't recall seeing anything like that on mine EC. Sorry to hear.
cripterion
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Thanks! Well, at 1440p I would definitely not use DSR, hell I don't even really use it at 1080p currently except for some games (Guild Wars 2).
The ROG Swift can be at at 665 here, just the packaging is missing, the Predator is out of stock pretty much everywhere and usually hovers around 800.
I really don't want to go for a 1080P Gsync monitor as I feel it wouldn't be such an upgrade from my current setup, I want the increased monitor size, resolution + Gsync. IPS vs TN well... I guess IPS is better but I haven't seen any of those monitors in real life so I'm still undecided about that.
Also I heard the Swift is drawing quite more power than normal monitors even on standby, what gives?
I currently use the PG278Q with SLI 780Tis, which is comparable. The experience is excellent and the display has excellent build quality. Its controls (via a small, rear-facing hat switch) are the best I've used.
The Predator's IPS panel probably puts it ahead of the Swift, despite the latter having lower latencies. Viewing angles (if that matters to you) and colour reproduction will be better. When comparing the Swift to other TN displays, you should bear in mind that the PG278Q's panel is true 8-bit, unlike the majority of TN out there. I have no complaints about the image.
The PG278Q's power consumption is normal for a display in its class.
cripterion
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Thanks for the info.
Truly it seems both displays are a worthy upgrade. I still think they're overpriced, but it is what it is. I'll check the webstores here and see if there are some deals to be had. From the little I've looked there's not even free shipping offered :/
I'm running a single 970 with the Predator and I can pretty much just echo what Corpekata said. Works just fine memory-wise at 1440p with the AAA graphics games I've tested and usually hovers at 40+ fps which feels great with Gsync. So you should be in for a treat with your SLI setup!
As for TN vs IPS. I've never used an IPS panel before the Predator and I was totally blown away by colors. First game I tested was GTAV and the sun just set when I spawned in the city - amazing. I used to have a SweetFX profile for GTAV to make the colors pop a little bit on my old ass TN since I felt they looked totally washed out. But with the IPS panel it's just too much and I leave it off ever since. Maybe the LG monitor I had was just horrible though lol
cripterion
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Haha man, 840 worth of crazyness but you guys just sold me that purchase. Should be getting it early next week!
Cheers!
Probably because this isn't an issue with G-Sync monitors like you're trying to make it out to be.
That isn't an issue caused by a monitor having G-Sync, but I'm sure you're not saying it is. You just got a dud monitor. I don't want to sound like a broken record, but the Acer XB270HU really is well worth the money.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
The main point of interest here in having a dud monitor is if it's the build I got or a widespread monitor quality concern. The latter is disappointing but allows it to be sold off (if I need to) without the moral issue of reselling a broken product. The former means the monitor I own is defective and I should be able to return for a full refund or replacement.
Either way, it's not something that should be considered acceptable. I'd be asking for an RMA straight-up. Did you buy it from PC Case Gear?
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Yeah, I think I'll send them the image I posted above and go from there.
Most of my purchased are split between PCCG and MSY. This was CPL.