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GAF-Hop |OT14| The 6 God is Five Writers, And One False Idol

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Bronx-Man

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Eos said:
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it would've been much worse of an album
can't see drake doing welcome to heartbreak, heartless, amazing, love lockdown, streetlights, etc as well as ye
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Pay no mind to Aubrey stans.
 
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Nibel

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Enzo finally receiving some reinforcements; times gonna get tough

ViewtifulJC said:
Grantland: A Highly Scientific, Real-Life Exploration Into How Anyone Could Possibly Like J. Cole
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On Friday night, I hoped for a very specific thing: that a man or a woman would be able to explain to me why J. Cole is an interesting, exciting rapper. And so I went to a place where I thought it would be easy to find many people who held that opinion. A simple joke to make here would be to say that I went to “a morgue” or “a sleep factory” or “a hospital for people who were born without ears,” but none of those are places I went, and I’m not so sure that those last two are even places that exist.
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BREH

Edit: lawd that Eminem thread triggered PD
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PhoenixDark

Banned
RP912 said:
Jay Rock's album took my attention away from Swish, but since TDE is on some fuck shit with having fans try their luck to get the album on some claw crane shit...back to Yeezus hype.
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Now #162 on iTunes. Rebound from yesterday, when it fell out of the top 200.

lol
 
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Fjordson

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The Dangerous Kipawa guy is gonna launch the TDE Kickstarter any day now. It'll technically be for Q's new album, but Jay Rock's will be a stretch goal.
 
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PhoenixDark

Banned
IMO that Grantland article is kinda weak. Noz already said everything that needed to be said.

I mean this guy is supposed to be a great lyricist, a compelling writer, The Nas Of Our Time but nobody seems to notice that he failed to absorb the most (only?) compelling aspect of Nas’ style - that project window vision. Dude is wholly incapable of seeing outside of himself. Literally every idea on Born Sinner is I / me / my on some elementary school essay shit. His subjects exist only as one dimensional props for him to hang his own personality and narratives on.

The “Art Of Storytelling" beat jack on “Land Of The Snakes" is perfect because it opens Cole up to such a bold contrast against the Outkast original. Sasha Thumper was a fully formed human, one with hopes and fears and slumber parties. She even exits the scene and lives an entire life outside of Andre’s verse. The women of “Snakes” and elsewhere on BS are set pieces. They have no names, no stories, no personalities, no specific characteristics. It’s just “this bitch,“ “some hoes” and endless “she"s. Sometimes they talk at him like wamp wamp wamp wamp but that’s where it stops. I’m sure someone could extract an intense gender politics thinkpiece out of this but it’s not just women either. He does the same thing with his family, with physical spaces, even with his own heroes (On “Let Nas Down" Cole makes no specific case for Nas’ talents or appeal, he just talks about shaking dude’s hand and hanging posters on the wall.) It’s flat narcissism and it’s definitely not good writing. Good writing requires a panoramic worldview.
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Koozek

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PD on point in that Em thread.

Malleymal said:
Eminem is probably one of the best wordsmiths in the rap game... i actually think his color played a part in that because he couldn't rely on the N word to bail him out in a majority of his songs like non white rappers. He knew how to put words together in a way that not many rappers could. Kool G rap/Nas/Kweli and a few others could link words in a way like eminem, but unfortunately they didn't have the machine of Dre behind them to make the hits consistently. Em was definitely one of the best to do it and should be mentioned with the greats when all is said and done.
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Trey

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People like him because he's super easy for many millenials to self insert. He has intuitive lines and decent production. Safe subject matter and he's a genuinely nice guy who interacts well with his fanbase.
 
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CrazyDogg77

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Trey said:
People like him because he's super easy for many millenials to self insert. He has intuitive lines and decent production. Safe subject matter and he's a genuinely nice guy who interacts well with his fanbase.
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When I first read this I thought it was in reference to Em and not Cole and was probably the most confused I've ever been in my life.

SN: Any discussion of Eminem especially on the internet is so trash
 
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Grover Cleveland

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I'm done indulging Em-related topics in the OT.

Too many cats on that "RAP SUXXX BUT EM'S THE GOAT BECAUSE HE'S THE ONLY ONE WHO DOESN'T TALK GUNS, SEX, AND WEED AND HE CAN RHYME ORANGE AND DORANGE SUPER QUICK HOLY SHIT BRO" type ignorance in there.

EDIT: And I say that as a guy who fucked with Em's old shit
 
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RP912

Banned
Some Em fans just don't realize that they are pretty much Track 3 on the MMLP. Em could have a rap song about the letter A and dudes would think it came from the good book. Shameful...
 
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ViewtifulJC

Banned
I was gonna make a "be the GOAT with two good albums brehs" post but then I remember tupac only got one good album in these conversations so
 
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thabiz

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Bronx-Man said:
New kid in town. Time for that initiation.

Musical Tastes

1. Pick a Coast to rep (Chiraq or Atlantistan) - Beast Coast
2. What’s your favorite subgenre of rap? (Conscious/Backpack, Trap/Drill, Mafioso, WC Gangsta, Swag, Weed, Hyphy, Club, etc) - Industrial
3. Favorite Artists (Pick Five) - Kanye, Kendrick, Vince Staples, Flying Lotus, Kid Cudi
4. Favorite Artists Outside of Hip-Hop (Pick Five) - Tame Impala, Queens of the Stone Age, Daft Punk, Peter Gabriel, AC/DC
5. What was your hip-hop AOTY last year? What’s your current hip-hop AOTY? - Run The Jewels 2, To Pimp a Butterfly
6. What are you listening to right now? - Summertime 06
7. What’s something you like that you might consider a guilty pleasure? What’s something you haven’t listened to that you think a hip-hop aficionado might give you shit for? - To this day I am obsessed with Katy Perry songs. And I bought Born This Way by Lady Gaga on CD.
8. Rank a Random Rapper’s Discography (Pick Someone With > 3 Albums) - MBDTF > Late Registration > College Dropout > Yeezus > 808s & Heartbreak > Graduation > Watch the Throne


1. What do you like about the current state of hip-hop? What’s missing from the game? - It feels more varied than ever before, more stories are being told. Less trap shit would nice, idk.
2. Who’s Your Favorite Wu-Tang Member? - Ghostface
3. Jay-Z or Nas? Biggie or Pac? Young Thug or OG Maco? - Jay, Biggie, Thug
4. What Hip-Hop Album Are You Currently Anticipating? SWISH
5. Who is the Most Underrated Emcee? Who is the Most Overrated? GoldLink, Drake
6. Would You Rather Eat An Ass or Have Your Ass Eaten? - No.
7. Onions, Avocados, Both, or Neither? - Onions
8. Do you still listen to Eminem? Why? - Nope because it ain't 1999 anymore
9. Who’s your favorite pop artist? And who’s the finest? - Katy Perry
10. Recall a personal event that went down about a week ago... Me and my new roommate were walking into Taco Bell when we heard two girls yelling at the cashier. I went to up to ask why they were heated and they said they waited 45 minutes for a pair of Locos Tacos.
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Vulgar
 
IrishNinja

IrishNinja

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enzo_gt said:
Cold 187um keeps hinting that Dre is gonna follow up after Compton quickly. Dre is planning something and is in contact with him (and presumably others) daily.

Perhaps for the 2Pac movie?
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huh...so Resurrection's getting a sequel?

CrazyDogg77 said:
When I first read this I thought it was in reference to Em and not Cole and was probably the most confused I've ever been in my life.
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haha glad im not the only one who did a double take there

RP912 said:
Some Em fans just don't realize that they are pretty much Track 3 on the MMLP. Em could have a rap song about the letter A and dudes would think it came from the good book. Shameful...
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its funny if you've ever known stans of other technical dudes like canibus, because you get the same arguments/dissonance but without the commercial success

ViewtifulJC said:
I was gonna make a "be the GOAT with two good albums brehs" post but then I remember tupac only got one good album in these conversations so
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so tired of this fam:
Me Against the World
a solid 1/3 to half of All Eyez (and the highs are some of his highest i think)
uhm add in the remaining 1/3 of strictly 4
BAM done

thabiz said:
Vulgar
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yeah, MBDTF as # 1 sure but this is OT14 fam
 
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RP912

Banned
IrishNinja said:
huh...so Resurrection's getting a sequel?



haha glad im not the only one who did a double take there



its funny if you've ever known stans of other technical dudes like canibus, because you get the same arguments/dissonance but without the commercial success



so tired of this fam:
Me Against the World
a solid 1/3 to half of All Eyez (and the highs are some of his highest i think)
uhm add in the remaining 1/3 of strictly 4
BAM done



yeah, MBDTF as # 1 sure but this is OT14 fam
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Thankfully, I'm over the Canibus stannery after he brought his "Good Book" to a battle. Rip the Jacker is probably his best work though. Them Stoupe beats....oooooooOOOW.

Dereck said:
Ryder Music is a top 10 50 Cent song right?
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Ugh...maybe 9

1. Rowdy Rowdy
2. Patiently Waiting
3. Life's on the Line
4. What Up Gangsta
5. In My Hood
6. Sky Mask Way
7. Gunz Come Out
8.Crime Wave
9. Ryder Music
10. In Da Club
 
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PhoenixDark

Banned
ViewtifulJC said:
look me in the eye and tell me the production on Me Against the World aint
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Have you guys ever had that self intervention moment where you realize you're making a shit argument solely because you're stanning something? I was in that position a few years ago while listening to MATW with my brother. I had been arguing it was a classic album and my brother kept going from track to track saying "ok, is this classic?"

Four tracks in I was feeling good. If I Die 2Nite, MATW, So Many Tears, Temptations...can't deny those tracks are good to classic. But then...

Young Niggaz?
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Heavy In The Game?
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Lord Knows?
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Dear Mama...whew, back to classic tracks.

It Ain't Easy
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Can U Get Away
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kinda wish I was a chick listening to this, pause. I fux with it.

Old School
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classic track

Fuck The World
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Death Around The Corner
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Outlaw
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Let's be real...it has some good to great tracks but overall? That's not a classic album brehs. It's like a 3/5 or so especially when compared to shit that came out that very year
 
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ViewtifulJC

Banned
title track and the singles are fire, but the whole 65 minute album tho? Going down track by track? nah tho

Liquid Swords and the Infamous dropped that year b
 
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RP912

Banned
Me Against the World needed better production. If it wanted to go in a mellow but dark type of feel..he should have fucked with Mike Dean and Lord Finesse.
 
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MadSkillzBahamut

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Do you know how much it angered me to hear "INS the rebel!", followed by no Inspektah Deck verse on Got My Mind Made Up the first time I listened to All Eyez On Me.
 
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Grover Cleveland

Member
Speaking of Pac, did anyone put on more weed carriers and family men than him? All them Outlawz cats were garbage

(RIP Kadafi and Hussein Fatal tho, no disrespect to the deceased)
 
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RP912

Banned
I wish Pac was still here just for the One Nation movement to kick off. It would have been powerful to hear Helatah Skeltah and West Side Connection on one track.
 
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HiResDes

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BlackJace said:
Man, what happened to surprise summer release, huh Yeezy?
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I think the problem Kanye faces is his desire to appease the critics and also simultaneously find the same the billboard success that he experienced at the height of his career. After Yeezus he finds himself in the crossroads of artistic integrity and mainstream success. The bloggers, critics, and Internet dwelling nerds that liked Yeezus and appreciated it's irreverence don't really make up the same fan base that went out and bought his first three albums and catapulted his sales. Yeezus really kind of alienated hip hop purists and the average black listener with it's somewhat blasphemous subject matter and raucous musicality. Ever since MBDTF Kanye's music has drifted away from really resonating with the two aforementioned groups and I believe Swish at least from how he's framed it is going to be a fractured effort to try and appease both groups. It's taking long because it's virtually impossible.
 
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Dereck

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New Hellfyre Club

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CATCHER OF THE FADE
by _________________
1. 1 of Mine - milo / OpenMikeEagle / NickDiamonds / Nalepa
2. DASH - WilliamThedford / Busdriver / OpenMikeEagle / VerBS / GreatDane
3. Lyp - OpenMikeEagle / Busdriver / NietzscheCortez / Promnite
4. building gray - milo / VerBS / PenthousePenthouse
executive producer: Regan “Busdriver” Farquhar & Kenny Segal
engineering: Kenny Segal
mastering: Steve Nalepa
layout: Diana Dalsasso

 
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Bronx-Man

Banned
HiResDes said:
I think the problem Kanye faces is his desire to appease the critics and also simultaneously find the same the billboard success that he experienced at the height of his career. After Yeezus he finds himself in the crossroads of artistic integrity and mainstream success. The bloggers, critics, and Internet dwelling nerds that liked Yeezus and appreciated it's irreverence don't really make up the same fan base that went out and bought his first threw albums and catapulted his sales. Yeezus really kind of alienated hip hop purists and the average black listener to it's somewhat blasphemous subject matter and raucous musicality. Ever since MBDTF Kanye's music has drifted away from really resonating with the two aforementioned groups and I believe Swish at least from how he's framed it is going to be a fractured effort to appease both groups. It's taking long because it's virtually impossible.
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Trying to appeal to the dusty motherfuckers going "i want ol' ye what happen 2 him :(((" is a fruitless endeavor. He needs to focus on making the best possible album he can make.
 
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injurai

Banned
Dereck said:
New Hellfyre Club

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CATCHER OF THE FADE
by _________________
1. 1 of Mine - milo / OpenMikeEagle / NickDiamonds / Nalepa
2. DASH - WilliamThedford / Busdriver / OpenMikeEagle / VerBS / GreatDane
3. Lyp - OpenMikeEagle / Busdriver / NietzscheCortez / Promnite
4. building gray - milo / VerBS / PenthousePenthouse
executive producer: Regan “Busdriver” Farquhar & Kenny Segal
engineering: Kenny Segal
mastering: Steve Nalepa
layout: Diana Dalsasso

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Finally I eat.
 
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Koozek

Member
HiResDes said:
I think the problem Kanye faces is his desire to appease the critics and also simultaneously find the same the billboard success that he experienced at the height of his career. After Yeezus he finds himself in the crossroads of artistic integrity and mainstream success. The bloggers, critics, and Internet dwelling nerds that liked Yeezus and appreciated it's irreverence don't really make up the same fan base that went out and bought his first threw albums and catapulted his sales. Yeezus really kind of alienated hip hop purists and the average black listener to it's somewhat blasphemous subject matter and raucous musicality. Ever since MBDTF Kanye's music has drifted away from really resonating with the two aforementioned groups and I believe Swish at least from how he's framed it is going to be a fractured effort to appease both groups. It's taking long because it's virtually impossible.
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On point.
 
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