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GAF-Hop |OT8| Let Blackace Down
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theignoramus
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hanks for the thorough response man. But Im sayin tho, most of them songs off that album hold up to today. Like Kick Along? If our flave of the day artist dropped that today ninjas would be like "oh sheeeeeeeeit. that dude blacked out"
IrishNinja
Member
ima let you in on a trade secret
a philosophy BA is basically worth the paper it's printed on but you'll still never channel enough of your chi to push past the bullshit if you don't learn the drunken style of drinking & mentally focusing as a discipline
it's basically a prep for everything you have to do after the world starts expectin you to deliver, in that regard
for real though without spellcheck you will never be taken seriously, even sober...its some shit
see i wanna agree with that wholeheartledly
but then you gotta realize the era we're in: if you & i were somehow pete rock & CL today and we released the creator, or even T.R.O.Y. tomorrow on datpiff etc you think people would notice? i mean this thread would go ape but outside of the heads, would it stand out?
like if follow the leader or even some hot shit like don't sweat the technique dropped tomorrow sure we'd talk about it before the next big thing, but not only would it not put up #'s (not like that's the proper metric but still), but influence at this point? you can't take the track out of that era, the window was a part of it's power.
edit jay elec ain't foolin no one past a melancholy PD/PP at this point. nuts on the table: shenmue 3 happens before his shit drops
PhoenixDark
Banned
This shit is a joke. Tom Ford...seriously? This is the same BP3 shit: rapping over beats he can't catch. This is a track ASAP, Q, Meek, Ross etc would utterly destroy. Jay sounds out of his element shouting out H Town and "keep it trill" like he's Drake. People are cosigning this song?
Ross on the next track sounding in his element. I'll listen to the rest tomorrow.
Ross on the next track sounding in his element. I'll listen to the rest tomorrow.
IrishNinja
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aint even heard shit yet but ill hedge my bets with my dude hiilife before PD; i love my nas stan camp here (shoutout to detox) but PD tweets #fuckaCamel on the daily so it's hard to treat this as unbiased
PhoenixDark
Banned
This has nothing to do with Nas. The album starts with top 40 radio pop intro that morphs into a crazy beat, then back to a boring 20/20 JT pop track for the chorus. All while Jay tries to catch the beat. Second track is better, love the live bass, but it feels like a track that Jay could have murdered but didn't. Then I heard Tom Ford and realized this was déjà vu: overproduced takes on the current mainstream sound, with Jay trying to catch the beat.
Is someone going to honestly tell me Jay handled Tom Ford well? I can hear Rocky on that beat, I can hear Danny Brown in it..,straight up killing it. Jay weaves in and out without finding a wave to ride.
Those are just late night thoughts. I'll listen to the rest tomorrow. I know this has dope tracks, I heard some on Flex's show.
Is someone going to honestly tell me Jay handled Tom Ford well? I can hear Rocky on that beat, I can hear Danny Brown in it..,straight up killing it. Jay weaves in and out without finding a wave to ride.
Those are just late night thoughts. I'll listen to the rest tomorrow. I know this has dope tracks, I heard some on Flex's show.
4th Chamber
Banned
I started wondering the same.
2000, critically acclaimed and commercially successful.
They sign 50 and produce most of his first album. He gets shot so there's bad press and Colombia Records has them drop him. Album gets shelved and 50's got beef ever since.
Early 2000s they do some singles and remixes. 2002 they do Jenny from the Block and some other stuff. They produce Best of Both Worlds, Jay-Z & R-Kelly's collaboration album.
It's hyped to sell millions until piss on you hits the news and Def Jam cuts all promotional material for the album.
Jay-Z refuses to be seen with R. Kelly. Doesn't sell well and they they can't tour because of the charges. Def Jam and Jay-Z get thirsty when they see how well R. Kelly's solo release does in 03'.
TrackMasters produce the 2nd album and it sells less than the first. That tour goes to shit too and R. Kelly gets pepper sprayed by one of Jiggas guys.
In 03', 50 is blowing up. TrackMasters done fucked up. The rap game is moving away from sample based beats, going for that cheap synth production. TrackMasters naturally in less demand, aren't pulling same kind of $ as before.
By 05', they're doing a Vanilla Ice song.
They lose their mainstream appeal. Sometime after 2005 they call it quit. Poke becomes a television producer and Tone does A&R. In 07', they regroup and since then their biggest song is One More Drink (2008).
IrishNinja
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goddamn
i gotta be missing details here, cause if not this is the rawest deal anyone got since slick rick, shit's damn near tragic
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
My man who is a producer "interned" for them a few years back and from what I understand they set themselves up like a lot of other named producers now. Basically brokering other people (up and comers) beats. That was a few years ago but trust they aren't starving.
On another note the producer game is dirtier than the rap game right now... Probably because there is more guaranteed money in it.
::Edit I might be thinking the Hitmen.... I got to talk to dude tomorrow and ask again.
Rastafarian42
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from the MCHG thread
Just finished listening will give my impressions after a second listen but I can say this is his best album since American Gangster and TIED with Yeezus for best produced albums this year. OH and HEAVEN >>>>>>>>>
Just finished listening will give my impressions after a second listen but I can say this is his best album since American Gangster and TIED with Yeezus for best produced albums this year. OH and HEAVEN >>>>>>>>>
IrishNinja
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i mean, from the somewhat varied sounds i'd hear them on & the realities of shit right now, all that sounds legit, but still....we've got swizzy defenders in here based on his bigger singles, weird to not see trackmasters get namedropped here & there i'd think
side note: Tom Ford hook is possibly one of the worst ive heard since stay schemin', why would you do that to this beat + the amount of hook artists jay prolly has on speed dial man
yeah i mean im clearly early on here but so far its like that debut commercial; i dont think the beats were gonna be anyone's real concern here
IrishNinja
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this album ain't bad so far but it's feelin mad forgettable
bout par for the course really, hov stans givin up hope on another black album or somethin like life is good at this point
bout par for the course really, hov stans givin up hope on another black album or somethin like life is good at this point
You know you puttin this shit on at a party though.
Yeah, his flow is trash on Tom Ford.
IrishNinja
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BBC - oh say word is nas gonna save this album
...nope
true, this is fine background music right here
i was just hopin to not say that bout a jigga album in 2013
...nope
true, this is fine background music right here
i was just hopin to not say that bout a jigga album in 2013
IrishNinja
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okay, final track nickels & dimes wasn't bad, so IrishNinja's reckless 1st playthrough impressions:
on the high end
on the lower
on the high end
on the lower
Spiderjericho
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I can see where his head is at (sponsorship deals, sports agency, touring, record exec). Dude isn't hungry anymore unfortunately.
Like remember when there was all that negative press after BP2, and Hov dropped a mix tape? Or after Black Album.
After his "retirement", he was on a bunch of remixes and killing it. It's like after American Gangster, he just started coasting (Swagger Like Us, So Appalled, Mr. carter, Monster, etc.). Like despite his last few albums, Eminem can still go in the booth. He's just not sonically there. Also, let's be honest, Hov has never been good at concept albums or being artistic like a Nas or Kanye.
Those Samsung commercials were just gassing people up with the beats and his concept talk.
Like remember when there was all that negative press after BP2, and Hov dropped a mix tape? Or after Black Album.
After his "retirement", he was on a bunch of remixes and killing it. It's like after American Gangster, he just started coasting (Swagger Like Us, So Appalled, Mr. carter, Monster, etc.). Like despite his last few albums, Eminem can still go in the booth. He's just not sonically there. Also, let's be honest, Hov has never been good at concept albums or being artistic like a Nas or Kanye.
Those Samsung commercials were just gassing people up with the beats and his concept talk.
I'm dying here as much as I take the piss out of Jay I always thought he is one of the mc's who studies the technique for decades and no matter what would happen he would come technically correct. It's hilarious hearing him struggle over these beats. The beats give him no room to rap not sure if it's his fault or the producers nevertheless it doesn't seem like he is saying anything.
Thabiz was right.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
Feels like he is humming along on most of the tracks. like he isn't saying anything.
wow. ye actually likes a film? its a festus miracle brahs!
theres an article in the local paper about her.
http://www.thestar.com/entertainmen...dits_ontario_teen_wondagurl_on_new_album.html
big up TDOT!
well brampton. they arent a part of toronto, but in this case i will allow it.
Oh yes it is.
Thank you for writing this so I didn't have to. Perfect.
For sure, "Takedown" was a great diss track but both that and "Super Ugly" was hollow when compared to "Ether". Also when talking about beef you have to consider the consequence of the actions made, (after acknowledging the 'skilfulness' of the track.)
I recall Jay-Z literally crying, don't you?
And eeeeven on top of that, when beefing the winner is decided through the majorities opinion. We all know, the public opinion was that Nas won with "Ether".
But if you think that personally Jay-Z won, I cannot take that away from you.. That's your opinion.
p.s really love the mixes man, they're dope.
Ghostface moms died
Damn that sucks.. sorry to hear for his loss. =[
Lol.
The Return of
Banned
Ehhhhhhhhh, hollow? Really now? I don't know if that's a poor choice of words but Ether is a pretty shallow diss record that sounds like it could have been written by some 3rd grader. It's like that video with the security guard and that ghetto mom with the kids just constantly saying ninja you gay, ninja you gay. I guess if that isn't hollow to you than what was offered in Takedown then IDK, but I would certainly say Ether is a much more hollow and shallow track looking back despite it having more impact.
holy shit thats funny. those kids are going to grow up to be fine upstanding members of society.
hahahha, that made me laugh so hard. I knew if I used that word it would tick someone off... is 'pitted' better?
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
super smooth. worth the wait.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Wow at that kanye tweet controversy...
Zoramon089
Banned
He ain't gonna do anything
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
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The Return of
Banned
Lol oh stop jay elec
I need to check out that Reks, I really dug that project last year with numonics
I need to check out that Reks, I really dug that project last year with numonics
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