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GAF-Hop |OT9/9/99| African Substitute Teachers Run NY
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PhoenixDark
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Red 2 Go is like XXX Danny to me. Up tempo yet not crazy fast Danny Brown talking shit. Most of Side A is like a slower, more gritty Brown - and most of Side B is Brown completely out of control. The album doesn't have too many tracks like Pac Blood or Monopoly which are hype, but feature a more controlled Brown.
Yeah, that's true. I think that goes a long way in giving Old a different identity though. Good thing this album lived up to my hype since Oxy is MIA.
"This blonde made the dick do the spray outta Contra"
Rastafarian42
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Funny enough I was bumping Hudson Mohawke heavily two months before he was signed to GOOD Music.
Monopoly is still my favorite Danny song and the song that defines XXX to me. Well, other than 30.
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I thought everyone was given their writing credits on yeezus. Seemed like it to me
What happens when a producer needs a specific person to come in and play specific piano notes but can't play themselves? Are they uncreative?
Logic consistently flawed here fam, don't know where your going with this. Blurring lines that essentially disregard a significant amount of production altogether in the genre.
Bottom line is Kanye can bring the best out of some people and does have a good ear but for every one success he has, he makes 100 overproduced pieces of garbage. The downside of being the innovator of collaborative producing in hip hop. When you have 50 people focus testing a song it'll come out sounding soulless and auto tuned to fuck by Kanye after the fact. I'm curious what happens to Hudmo after Ye is done with him, if he will just be tossed to the side like Hit Boy because Hit Boy wanted to rap. Ye has become as parasitic as Jay and even more clever at ripping people off, he doesn't wait until what he rips hits hip hop culture, he just checks Pitchfork. Smh at all this. Some ridiculous and unforgiving stanning by enzo.
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Well really I don't feel that's in correlation of each other at all. you could approach someone with ideas you have, but feel like you don't have the execution to pull it off so you get helped. I don't think getting help takes away your originality when it is you who came up with the idea in the first place. Just means you weren't the one who could pull through with the execution of it all the way through. Nothing wrong with that
Just saying that if Ye took one thing from his mentor, it's his ability to use others for whatever his agenda is. With his desire to constantly evolve hip hop and be original and artistic, I'm assuming the turn over for Very GOOD Beats to become even higher.
Edit - Ye is actually very much the Steve Jobs of hip hop. Maybe not for what his intended definition is, but in terms of picking good ideas and expanding on them and "executing" them well. But unlike Jobs, who takes a clinical thing like software and would try to inject life into it, Ye has an uncanny ability to make music sound boring as fuck and he isn't a talented MC. He's boring.
Nobody is countering my arguments, instead y'all are just countering with "but I don't like the songs."
I don't see y'all saying this same shit to Dre or Timbo with regards to what you guys are specifically mad at. Suddenly Kanye doesn't do it behind closed doors, gives people credit when it's due, and puts it in an open forum framework and its a fucking travesty
I should have said can no longer
it's just musical classicism really. producing as rap audiences understand it is just beatmaking. so god forbid a hip hop artist actually produces in the conventional sense...
fwiw people do try to shit on Dre for it. Timbo just gets shitted on for outright plagiarism.
Dre and Timbo do it too and it sucks.
I am countering, the songs are boring and fail to innovate music in any way that others aren't already doing in their bedrooms. Ye is a poseur, he doesn't care about Chicago music scene, and he is just looking at Pitchfork to see what's hot in other genres and how he can apply it to what's new. He's infact not even trying to make his versions of those songs, but just enlisting the artists he likes to collab with him. It's even more lazy and the music is boring as fuck.
Flocka innovating like Ye wishes he could.
what were people even using before Kanye invented backpacks?
That's true.
Moooose and Esch just exemplifying that closed minded mentality I guess (Esch surely is just trolling though). Circle the argument with insults so you don't have to argue it, then shit on a genre known for its collaborative aspects for being too collaborative and ultimately criticize the principal creator and producer for not doing their job as a principal director of the music and then acknowledge their role as the principal director at the same time.
You can not like the music but shitting on the method for what it is is straight paradoxical. No point in arguing further if you can't explain the contradiction.
EDIT: Esch knows me too well.
Song is not good, Borgore makes that bro-trap.
I feel like listening to Reloaded is the best precursor actually.
Nah just jump right in. Also, pour yourself a glass of your favorite beverage.
edit: actually listening to Reloaded first aint a bad idea
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Let it soak in
like a vitamin water or somethin?
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Yeezus and hires got me onto dat Evian Christ
He has a a future in hip hop if he ever wants it
The only suitable drink for nights gambit is like dirty cheap booze. Be a method listener brah
He has a a future in hip hop if he ever wants it
The only suitable drink for nights gambit is like dirty cheap booze. Be a method listener brah
Enzo seems like he likes that super sweet shit. I bet he drinks powerade.
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They call me Da Juiceman.
I didn't go to the Danny release party tonight.
But he's doing a free Boiler Room show tomorrow.
AND my friend just got booked for TWO shows for CMJ next week. One is sponsored by Gorilla vs Bear.
And I'm seeing Title Fight this Sunday.
Sooooooooo best week of my life?
edit - nooooooooooooooooooo the rsvp for this danny show isn't a guarantee, its a lottery. fml.
But he's doing a free Boiler Room show tomorrow.
AND my friend just got booked for TWO shows for CMJ next week. One is sponsored by Gorilla vs Bear.
And I'm seeing Title Fight this Sunday.
Sooooooooo best week of my life?
edit - nooooooooooooooooooo the rsvp for this danny show isn't a guarantee, its a lottery. fml.
Side A, the song,fits that bill perfectly.
I like Ka better as a feature artist. Night's Gambit bored me to tears.
Did we already get off for the night? It is telling me that the service is not available
Refresh?...Oh shit I'm getting that message now too.
PhoenixDark
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It went down I guess.
Old had me thinking. Any of you grow up in the heart of the ghetto? Or just a tough growing up experience in general?
I never stayed in one spot, and I moved all over the place. Lived in some not great areas around LA, but my mom still took me all the way to the good areas for school. My conflicts were more internal family shit, it got bad (no power/water plenty of times, borderline homeless), but I'm thankful it didn't get as bad as it could have.
I think upbringing connects a lot of us to rap, so I'm curious.
I never stayed in one spot, and I moved all over the place. Lived in some not great areas around LA, but my mom still took me all the way to the good areas for school. My conflicts were more internal family shit, it got bad (no power/water plenty of times, borderline homeless), but I'm thankful it didn't get as bad as it could have.
I think upbringing connects a lot of us to rap, so I'm curious.
jakefromstatefarm
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It's dense, and it probably won't grab you on the first listen. But there's plenty of substance if you're just willing to sit down and be hit by his wordplay and imagery. I don't think it's for everyone though.
Dense, how?
jakefromstatefarm
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The monotone, spoken word delivery. The heavy figurative language. It's like a Dostoevsky novel, it takes effort to engage yourself into the music. And sometimes that effort is rewarded.
I had this weird situation where my fam was super poor until I was 8-9ish, then my dads small biz stabilized and we were pretty middle class.
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