TheWorthyEdge
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I'm down for voting swamped as well. She's on my reads list as possible scum, but so is Burb. I'm willing to vote for either one. If Swamped flips mafia I have a hunch on who to go with next.
Also if Splinter got a post restriction this would be the third item that has been given?
WAMD said she got a banana N1, Blarg got the chocolate thing N2 and now Splinter seems to got something last night. Did anyone got anything N3?
Persona had an item sender who was a neutral, he exited the game after he send a number of items. If this is something similar we may be close to miss another player. This is something to be worried at this point.
No post restriction
Fran wat
Why do you scum read WAMD and Stan again?
Both are partially gut reads, partially the fact that a lot of what they're saying seems to be on easy targets rather than anything more substantial/risky. Examples there is they both seemed to be behind the "scum acohrs/CCS" argument when it was very popular.
CCS what do you think of Burb? I'm not feeling well about him but I would love to hear more points of view.
This is honestly my normal activity level unless I'm co-authoring law novels. I'll get with it tomorrow and throw out some real reads. Like i said, busy today.
I think if we killed Swamped today her death may be able to tell us more than Burb's if she flips scum. So:
VOTE: Swamped [/higlight]
well, shit.
so first off, sorry about missing day end, thought i would be awake for it, turns out satying up stupidly late to ramble about samurai jack makes it hard to wake up early.
anyway.
vote: achors
can this happen already?
i misspelt it again didnt i.
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vote: acohrs
Vote: Acohrs
Was going to do this anyway, but Stan made it better. Also, i really laughed when i saw his flip. Trying to earn that heater told for gafia 4 i guess
We've been on the wrong tracks the whole game. Dragonz is the only one I found to have a tangable connection to scum Blarg. I wanted to see her lynched yesterday and nobody cared. The very least everyone can do is to give his/her stance on Dragonz!
I may as well call out Kyan here! What is your opinion of her? You surely have the most experience regarding playing with her. You're history together should help evaluate her.
Are you voting Swamped to gain info or because you think she is scum?
Because making a vote to gain info, I think it's the wrong mindset at this point. We are at day 5 and we still haven't caught a single scum (Blarg doesn't count, he practically suicided himself). We need to catch scum quick or we will be in a lot of trouble. It's not the time to worry about connections. It's time to catch one scum.
The whole tangable connection is a joke answer. She may be scum (her coasting the first couple of days was raising red flags for me, the last couple of days she seems more interested in the game) but taking any answer for a question like "are you scum?" is not likely a tangable connection. If you look at Blargs post he had a really long shitposting conversation with Kyan, there's something with Sorian (townie) and with Bronx (townie). And I think he talked several times with Swamped. I don't find the connection between WAMD and Blarg that strong. I'm slighty leaning town with Dragonz.
What's your opinion on Burb and TWE? I'm leaning scum with both of them.
No, it's more. Look at her reaction to my first accusation of her. It's the longest post she made the entire game and she swerves to how meta arguments aren't valid. You're right, she was coasting and just after the first heat came her way she's surprisingly a bit more active. She made a posts directed at Sorian that was with faulty logic. She also threw around a line yesterday or the day before that was about suspicious people but she "didn't want to say names", which was odd.
Splinter at this point we're basically forced to give you good will because it's possible you'll claim blocked till the end, if I judge the situation right? You cleared Faddy and that would be two persons off everyone's list.
It's clearly possible scum tries to take this to their advantage and let you two survive on purpose, but we simply don't know. This is a typical mafia decision, when you either decide to believe someone and lose or win.
At the very least I need to evaluate your reasons for coming forward and your targets. You covered these earlier, I'll reread.
N1 blocked, tried Verelios.
N2 green check Faddy.
N3 ?
N4 blocked.
You claim you have no other share worthy information?
Why did you neither target Crab or swamped?
Burb hides. He only ever comes out twice a day, posts a bit to appear active and vanishes. With his new "should've dropped out of the game" excuse he just raised another flag. He has shown some weird actions, like beginning of D2 Kalor vote or today warning us of a supposed lylo. I'm getting a neutral vibe, who's coasting to survive and not get attention from town or scum. I don't remember him to have taken hard stances on anyone, if he did please show me.
TWE on the other hand has been non-existent until he was getting heat. He's got a bad vote record and a weak reason for his Crab lynch D2. His read list yesterday, the correction of that and his switch to and fro Sorian are conspicious. His defense earlier gave me slight town vibes, but I'm not so sure about this anymore. He also pulled the "kill me, but it won't help" shtick, but nearly everyone who was lynched did this so far. I'll have to take a look at his earlier reads of Sorian and if his vote movements yesterday seem logical to me.
I disagree that I was non-existent until I was getting heat. I got into the game when real life allowed me too, and said some things which then brought the heat.
One of the main reasons I don't want to vote Burb is the fact that real life is getting in the way of his play, but if push comes to shove then I'll vote him.
There are definitely higher priority targets for me than Splinter and I'm inclined to lean towards believing him, but maintaining a degree of healthy suspicion towards him is a good thing I think. Ditto Faddy.
With Splinter expressing doubts about Swamped and you having her on your town list. I was already thinking Swamped was town maybe we shouldn't lynch her
UNVOTE
I'm going to take LPs read to heart and go read every Blarg post and see who he didn't interact with.
If you were thinking Swamped is town, why did you vote for her?
Hi fran. Have you seen how much I have been wrong.
Also in my re-read of all of Blarg's interactions you are distinctly absent in his probing despite you being quite active on Day 1.
I am being a bit all over the place to be honest and I understand that that may "look" bad, but I feel it makes more sense to be all over the place if you're town. If you are scum you know who town is and you go at them hard throughout the whole game. You stick to a couple people.
VOTE: Franconp
The main person who has been complaining about me being all over the place.
So, you are playing scummy and I'm scum because I'm on your case.
OMGUS. OK.
And no, if you are lost you prod people until someone make a contradiction. Thanks your doing a classic example in that post.
I've been lightly suspicious of him for a while, but actually getting less suspicious as he's gone from posting a reasonable number of low content posts to just not posting very much at all. Given what he's said about irl, that seems believable.
Quick summary of my views:
Town:
Splinter
Faddy
Slight town:
Swamped
Gorlak
Kyan
Null:
Burb
Kawl (his low activity/contribution also concerns me, but has offered irl explanation)
Fran
Slight scum:
FEP (again low activity plus a bit of a gut feeling)
Stan
Scum:
TWE
WAMD
Woah quite defensive for only having one vote on you.
I tried to prod you a couple of times but you went out of your way to avoid having a discussion. I find that really scummy.
I'm going to be honest: you are at the top of my scum list and I want to vote your you today. But also, if Burb doesn't give us any reads or insight about the game I will vote for him instead. I really don't feel comfortable having a blank spot so late in the game.
B1.) Show me where this happened and how I went "out of my way" to avoid discussion.
B2.) Then vote me. If you're actually town and you have me at the top of your scum list then vote for me. If I had anyone on the top of my scum list? You better believe I would've voted them @ day start.
B3.) There are a lot, so why Burb?
I'm not feeling good about this post. It looks really fake. It's just making weak excuses based on his own meta: "when I was scum I was more active, so I can't be scum". That is not how it works. At all.
I didn't write it to make you feel good about it lol
Your reads and opinions seems really weak (a lot of low activity. Not much proding). Not mine of you.
I'm not here to prod.
May as well do my reads list
Town reads in order of confidence
Splinter
CCS
Swamped
TWE
Gorlak
Kyan
Scum in order of confidence
Kawl
Fran
Stanley
FEP
Burb
WAMD
Now how many scum are there? I think 3 and 1 still has bulletproof (maybe? did Blarg use it up with 2 infractions idk)
What? Why do you know for sure there's a BP in this game?
What? Why do you know for sure there's a BP in this game?
It was in Blarg's flip. He shared a 1-shot BP with another scum.
What? Why do you know for sure there's a BP in this game?
We can put to bed all stupid theories about poison being fake. I tend to believe Bronx is indeed poison doctor and is definitely not scum. Almost definitely town. Poison can still be scum or neutral. I would lean neutral at this point but it don't matter.
Grats, Bronx. Put that trust to good use
All of my "theories" are thrown out the window. I believe Bronx 100% now. He's the poison doctor so there's no reason to prod at that anymore.