Game Developers celebrating assassination of Charlie Kirk [Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired, and SP issue statement

That goes without saying. The gaming industry, especially in California, has a problem with the radical left.
It's a west coast thing in general IMO. You also get the most lefty cringey opinions from people in BC too. Not surprisingly, the Canadian NDP party (more left than Liberal party) is a big hit in BC, while no other province really cares about them. This kind of falls in line with the US where you get most extreme lefties on the west coast. So even hopping over the border, it's kind of the same.

There's something about that nice west coast weather or tons of outdoorsy greenery that has them having a totally different skew on views vs east coasters from NY, North Carolina or Newfoundland. Or even vs states/provinces down the middle of the country. Many east coast places can also have liberals/democrats majority voters too. But way different kinds of left leaning voters. They seem way more moderate and chill compared to west coasters.
 
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I'm reminded of a "great" leader (Obama) that once said:

"If they bring a knife to the fight, We (the left) bring a gun."

The right has abandoned several of its prior principles in this Trump era like people can say whatever they want without life ramifications stance because they were tired of being "canceled".

You cannot "cancel" people then complain when your opponent "cancels" you.

Those celebrating on the left need to think HARD about how they are going to feel when/if someone on the right blows the face off one of their pundits/leaders.

Because if it does not stop the right will come out with their guns and they have more guns training skill etc on how to use those weap

The left tried to cancel everyone and everything for the smallest infraction.

Having these clowns lose their job for public cumming to the murder of someone for their free speech isn't the same in the slightest. Those calling for and laughing at the murder of someone for their free speech are the opposite of free speech.
 
That goes without saying. The gaming industry, especially in California, has a problem with the radical left.
I don't live in the US so I don't know about these things. But seeing the USA through media and whats going on there, it seems to be either stupid radical left and stupid radical right and nothing in between and that is whats seems so baffeling to me. But it sure as hell is getting worse here in germany too...
 
I was not softening shit. The previous poster claimed Kirk was a political figure who sought common ground. Kirk was never open to changing his mind. That is a ridiculous statement and is rewriting history

Saying blacks were better off during the Jim Crowe era and the Civil Rights act was mistake is a divisive opinion. You can agree with it, but it doesn't make it not divisive

Kirk can do whatever he chooses if his 10 year old daughter was impregnated, but he believes it should be illegal for EVERY 10 year old child to be given the option of an abortion. That is a massively divisive opinion

There is a huge irony of everybody rightfully condemning the people who are celebrating or mocking the assassination of Kirk, but not acknowledging that Kirk was guilty of the exact same thing. Kirk called the assassination suspect of a Nancy Pelosi's husband a patriot and joked that his supporters should help bail him out of jail. The hypocrisy of many people here is unreal
You have some of your stuff confused.

Jim Crow era: he was talking about the welfare state, bringing up the fact that during an oppressive and horrible period, there were lower levels of incarceration, divorce and unemployment. Pointing out how those things got so much worse today, when conditions are far better, is a great argument. Some are just too small minded to understand the argument and extrapolate that somehow he was saying that Jim Crow laws were good. That's like calling someone pro-war (or a Nazi) if I point out that home ownership rates were higher during WW2.

Lastly, there was no "assassination suspect" since the gentleman was not assassinated, nor did he call that lunatic a "patriot" he said someone should bail him out so that he can ask him questions if it was some kind of homosexual affair. He was stoking a stupid conspiracy theory, not calling for anyone to be killed.

Sometimes in life, as Plato would say, we need to look into ourselves and say "is my logic correct" or am I drawing the conclusions I want to create monsters where there are none?

Let's look at some left-wing politicians who glorify murderers and their regimes, who are allowing violent criminals into the streets or who advocate for slavery and theft of other's capital. Are they wrong? I think so. Do I call for their murder? Absolutely not.
 
The left tried to cancel everyone and everything for the smallest infraction.

Having these clowns lose their job for public cumming to the murder of someone for their free speech isn't the same in the slightest. Those calling for and laughing at the murder of someone for their free speech are the opposite of free speech.

I don't disagree but from their (bizarre) world view of standard conservative beliefs/words = literal violence they view it as justified

Now they are going to see how the other 1/2 lives
 
Or dare i say... nukes? At least nukes so far? Nukes could obviously take the lead very quickly lol.
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I mean Japan might beg to differ. Every time a nuke comes up I'm reminded of the state holiday in Rhode Island of all places that celebrates nuking the Japanese
 
I just watched some uncut videos of Kirk, didn't know the guy before and went looking into why there's so much hate towards him. My takeaway is this, as neutral as I can put it without passion:

When you kill your opponent in a debate, you're basically declaring the defeat of your own side and giving huge strength to the other. And if you go as far as celebrating your opponent's death, the loss is even bigger you lose empathy not only from the opposing side, but also from outsiders and even the rational ones on your own side.
 
Interesting. Never seen that theory before. But by the sounds of it, it seems correct.
We were taught this in grade school here in Alberta. They tied it to extreme capitalism and communism too. It was really interesting and definitely checked out. There are of course certain key differences but it's fairly compelling.
 
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Absolutely no one should be cancelled. Should there be consequences for actions? Yes. Harsh consequences, in some cases. But cancelling someone for having a opinion that differs from mine? Cancelling someone for celebrating something that I - or the whole human race for that matter - defines as "bad" or "wrong"? Nope.
The people doing acts like these should get treated with the same amount of force and should be punished accordingly, whatever that might entail.
The people celebrating these acts and cheering on murder and terror. Let them show themselves as the stupid piles of flesh they are, so that we know who to avoid and have examples of what not to turn into. But let them say whatever it is they want to say. I don't condone violence of any sort, but I will fight for everyones right to voice their opinion, no matter how hard I disagree with it or no matter how wrong (legally, morally...) it might be from my point of view
These people constantly say "freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences". It's just getting turned back on them, and if you ask me, it's about goddamned time.

Leftists are pretty much able to say anything they want and get away with it for the past 10 or so years, so it's refreshing to see them get handed the consequences of their free speech.

He did say Americans should accept a few deaths a year in favor of the 2nd amendment.

Sure, he did. But what he ineloquently was attempting to say, is that we as a society, accept negative outcomes from misuse of anything that exists. Cars kill more than guns, but we accept car crashes as routine. Same with alcohol use - kills lots every year (and almost claimed my SO last year), but we both accept that AND still prop up alcohol consumption culture.
 
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We were taught this in grad school here in Alberta. They tied it to extreme capitalism and communism too. It was really interesting and definitely checked out. There are of course certain key differences but it's fairly compelling.
There is nothing remotely similar about "extreme" capitalism and communism.
 
Did I just spot the biggest psychopath of them all? She watched a 1-min compilation of Charlie Kirk and now wants that people not stop with him, but to get rid of them all. She also wants that someone gets rid off Charlie's wife and his kids. Even the grandma she wouldnt spare. She might be trolling, but its certainly not something to make fun of.




What the woman says here is exactly what the real Nazis did back in the day.
Sippenhaft, a term used during the Nazi regime, refers to the practice of holding a person's family or extended relatives responsible for their actions. If an individual was accused of a crime against the state, such as treason or resistance, their family members could be imprisoned, tortured, or even executed. This principle was a perversion of justice, as it punished innocent people for the alleged misdeeds of a relative, violating fundamental human rights and the very concept of individual accountability. The goal was to instill a climate of fear, deterring anyone from opposing the Nazi state by making them aware that their defiance would not only endanger themselves but also their entire lineage.

My grandmother, who was not a person to exaggerate, told me a harrowing story from her time living under the Nazi regime. A neighbor of hers openly criticized Hitler, and for this, the Gestapo(Or SS police units) issued him a warning.
When he continued to speak his mind, they returned. They took the man and his adult son, put them both on the noose, and left them hanging for three days as a public display. The people who demand killing Kirks' family share this exact mentality.


Otherwise, the roommate did not pull the trigger. And those with common sense can be better than the extremists.
 
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Closing down Reddit is crazy, no.

I may have over-looked the Reddit part. Definitely not for that. Instead, someone should make a competitor.

It could be argued that Discord is a competitor to Reddit.
But you guys are arguing we need to moderate that even more for people we dont agree with even if it should be easy to just ignore subreddits and Discord servers you dont want to interact with.


Both Reddit and Discord have become pretty heavily moderated these days.
You cant really moderate every discord server but they are doing their best.(i guess).


If you know where to look theres a few Reddit replacement that are like the old reddit if you remember before reddit got basically site wide moderation there would be NSFW subreddits for police chases that end badly.
Reddit is relatively tame compared to what it used to be.


Replacements exist they just arent as mainstream........yet.


Shut down Reddit and Discord and people will move to the new ones then they will become mainstream and we will be right back where we at right now.


Deplatforming people who have opposing views not directly inciting violence cuz yeah deplatform them, but they just dont feel sorry for Kirk or call him names is also weird.
 
Do we have a list of all the clowns who said stuff and have been fired or just the sucker punch idiot so far ?
A database will go online soon:

"This website will soon be converted into a searchable database of over 30,000 submissions, filterable by general location and job industry. This is a permanent and continuously-updating archive of Radical activists calling for violence.

This is the largest firing operation in history."

 
Firing someone over politics is kind of shitty, but companies go from the standpoint that you are representing the company values.

This why you always use an alias on the internet.
 
Not a big fan of cancellations. Also not a fan of the Overton window shifting to open celebration of murder and assassination over political disagreements, which could legitimately tear the country apart. Companies generally don't want extremist death cult members for employees.
 
A database will go online soon:

"This website will soon be converted into a searchable database of over 30,000 submissions, filterable by general location and job industry. This is a permanent and continuously-updating archive of Radical activists calling for violence.

This is the largest firing operation in history."


Oh that's just lovely. What do we want to bet use of this site stops at calls for firing.
 
Firing someone over politics is kind of shitty, but companies go from the standpoint that you are representing the company values.

This why you always use an alias on the internet.
I don't think this particular case should be considered politics. At least, that shouldn't be the reason someone is let go from their job, so I agree with you there. Glorifying and celebrating the murder of an innocent man in front of his family should be the reason.
 
A database will go online soon:

"This website will soon be converted into a searchable database of over 30,000 submissions, filterable by general location and job industry. This is a permanent and continuously-updating archive of Radical activists calling for violence.

This is the largest firing operation in history."

Fantastic site. I skimmed it.

But in their request they forgot to tell people to also include their URLs because only a small number have social media links.

Not surprisingly in their small sample of people outed on the home page, so far a lot are skewed to government kind of roles... teaching and some military people. And many have that wacky young girl artsy kind of vibe to them.
 
No post on Epic yet? Or is it only bad Sony as usual? Time to fake boycott Unreal Engine fellas.




This is both accurate and sad. I miss when I was a kid, I would go to Toys 'R' Us and look at the wall of game boxes, oh cool a new Mario game I want it for Christmas

Now there is no Toys 'R' Us, no wall of game boxes, and the studios are staffed by insane people

At least we still get new Mario games. Thank God for Nintendo
 
The left tried to cancel everyone and everything for the smallest infraction.

Having these clowns lose their job for public cumming to the murder of someone for their free speech isn't the same in the slightest. Those calling for and laughing at the murder of someone for their free speech are the opposite of free speech.
It's usually a very left wing kind of attitude. If anyone had to guess which side is the most emotional and wacky, would get into doxxing and cancel culture and who publicly proclaims lets go kill presidents and laugh at it, lets face it. I dont get a sense Trump/Musk supporters went around social media hoping someone shoots Biden or Harris like a bonafide liberal would. People might laugh at zombie Biden or cackling Harris, but not the assassination kind of motivation. And the avg moderate voter isnt going to say that stuff too at either side.

I dont think too many people would say thats a middle of the road centrist or right leaning attitude. That's going to be a hard left view. And some reason these people love this kind of chaos.

Anyone who claims left, centrists and right views have the exact same mentality are ignorant. The reason why things are changing now is because it's gone on so long it's bound for the pendulum to swing back to even the score. But under more normal times, it's still the left that still seems to go ape shit the most.
 
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What are the Result of all these Woke developers? You get Characters like this! If you say you do not like the way the way the characters look you get labeled as a bigot and or a fascist!


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I dont get a sense Trump/Musk supporters went around social media hoping someone shoots Biden or Harris like a bonafide liberal would.

Wishful thinking.

these people

A sign that you are not thinking critically. You've got it out for "these people". Just few months back, we had two D-politicians murdered in their own home along with their spouses in an act of political violence. While some surely were, you don't have to celebrate their deaths to show clouded judgement. Selective indifference is enough.

My dad went down the youtube rabbit hole with crypto-currency as a gateway. When someone broke into nancy pellosi's home with the apparent intention of killing her with a hammer, I asked him if they should have done that and he said "maybe they should have". The violence may be ideologically driven but it's not as cleanly down political lines as you seem to think.

Right now, many liberals and not just the far left are crossing their fingers for trump to croak of natural causes. Not exactly the most noble wish. But if you remember the celebration of hillary clinton possibly having some rapidly terminal disease, you may see that wishing death on people you hate is universally a base and ugly side of human nature.
 
Ghost of Yotei having ERA and GAF canceling preorders because no one knows wtf is going on lmao.

I'm sorry...imagine using your work twitter account to celebrate someone dying. People are losing touch with reality. Imagine telling that to your kids or husband (apparently it was a woman): "I was fired. i just celebrated someone getting shot and killed and now i'm not working" like...wtf did you expect?
let me guess reset era is canceling pre-orders cuz she was fired right?
 
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