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Some cases it works. I think the King Landing stuff in AFFC was far more interesting because you had absolutely no clue what happened to Tyrion after his escape.
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Game of Thrones Creators Confirm the Show Will Spoil the Books
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Some cases it works. I think the King Landing stuff in AFFC was far more interesting because you had absolutely no clue what happened to Tyrion after his escape.
RatskyWatsky
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Sho_Nuff82
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They are all but done with 90-100% of the book 4/5 content for certain characters.
Bran
Theon
Jaime
tear up a letter
Brienne
Alayne
The season will be packed, even without a few side characters. Their omission will make the books worth reading many years from now.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
what is dead may never die
I think the biggest problem to that is that people age. I saw a recent picture of maisie williams (Arya)... She doesn't look like a little kid anymore and if they don't rush a little, Idk how they will explain that.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
You know what would have been interesting? If the show had gone forward with GRRM's scrapped 5 year time jump after the end of ASOS.
That's not really a logical explanation if you think about it for 10 minutes. Why do you think that the books are unprofitable? They sell millions of copies, and GRRM most certainly makes a lot more money from his novels than he does directly from the show.
The Illiterati
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I don't doubt -this- season will be packed. Because the writers can only adapt. GRRM told them that Hot Pie becomes the final king and now B and W have to somehow cobble together another two seasons to get him there. Fan fiction becomes reality.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Luke is the father.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
After this season I need to cleanse my palette and re-read the books. I've introduce so many people to them over the years, but the show has seriously fudged my memory of book versions of events.
Trojita
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We knew this was going to happen. Man book readers
Were pissed at the
reveal last season.
There's going to be more asshole tv show viewers spoiling the series more than there ever was book readers doing it. This isn't a commentary on the show watchers but a look at the sheer numbers. More people watch the show than have read the books. Most people don't even know what a Song of Ice and Fire is.
Were pissed at the
Night King and how The Others are created
There's going to be more asshole tv show viewers spoiling the series more than there ever was book readers doing it. This isn't a commentary on the show watchers but a look at the sheer numbers. More people watch the show than have read the books. Most people don't even know what a Song of Ice and Fire is.
He's been a writer for over 30 years and just now became household name famous. He decided to just have fun with that at the expense of his writing pace. Dude has been going to some expo, conference, show event, etc around the globe every 2 weeks these past few years.
Roland_Gunner
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GRRM makes waaayyy more from the show than from the books. Thats why he can afford to only write one every five years, lol.
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/ar...-author-makes-15m-per-year-drives-beat-mazda/
That's glorious. even with a similar ending, I would have liked that.
Dude's been taking his sweet time long before the show came along.
Nothing inherently wrong with that, it's his story to tell, but the recent fame is just one of many reasons.
Nameless
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I haven't gotten close to the show in the books and don't plan to, but I do keep hearing how disappointing book readers find books 4 and 5. So in that regard I'm glad the show runners aren't following a formula that didn't work for the sake of authenticity to the source material.
Yeah, everyone is like, why does he take so long to write the sixth book, but fifth took him 6 year, and in june, that will only be 4 years book 5 is out, so... we could still wait 10 year to have the end.
VindicatorZ
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I haven't read the books, but I know that seasons 3 and 4 took up all of book 3. Feast and Dance are basically one book that is bigger than Storm of Swords. So they can dip a little into Winds of Winter, while some characters are still in books 3 and 4 in the show. They can easily spread this out for at least 2 seasons, unless they plan to cut out alot from the books (which is inevitable , but still)
Can anybody shed some more light on this for me? Without spoilers of course
Can anybody shed some more light on this for me? Without spoilers of course
RatskyWatsky
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#NotAllBookReaders
I didn't realize his cut on the show was that large, so I will stand corrected on that point. However, the book series is likely in the 50M+ copy range worldwide at this point, and even before the show aired, they were in the 10-15M copy range. Dude hasn't had to worry about bills for some time now.
SquiddyCracker
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I think it's about time the Book readers had a Red Wedding of their own.
RatskyWatsky
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There was some Book 4 and 5 in season 4 and so they're finishing up both those books, along with some book 6 stuff, in season 5.
lol
They did. 15 years ago.
Books 4 and 5 are great, they're just not what people wanted (instead of giving you a conclusion to book 3 it slows things down before they pick up again). Most people come around on them after that initial shock.
Or just make their own story?
GRRM made a mistake telling them the story in advance.
EDIT: I know it makes sense and a lot of people are ok with it. But fuck, this really sucks. I love the books and the show, as great as it is, is nothing more than a fun visualization of the book. Adhering to the plot that GRRM gave them will make it nothing more than a poor shadow of what's to come, spoiling the main events to come with none of the proper build up or intricacies necessary to make them work. Because let's be honest, every time the show travels into a territory where it's making up it's own completely original stories, they're flat and are time wasters.
It's gonna be hard to avoid this shit but but I'm gonna give it a shot.
On another note, it's definitely going to make authors in the future think twice about licensing their work before it's finished if they know that the liscencees will feel free to ruin plot points in the future.
Now, that's an awful thing to do. The fact that Japanese still do 100's of episodes even while the book is unfinished just annoys me, it's a waste of time, money, and talent.
I see this mentioned a lot, but I don't see how it is comparable. I would imagine the majority of book readers watch the show as well. The number of diehard book-only people is comparably small.
Before it was a minority of book readers spoiling things for the majority show-only viewers. Not only that, but they were spoiling things that weren't scheduled to happen for years into the show.
SquiddyCracker
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RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
By watching the show at the same time? Or maybe spoiling things a day or two early for the book (and non-book) readers who DVR'd it?
If you are book only and expect to be unspoiled for 5+ years before reading Martin's take, that is your own funeral.
Sugoi!
KuwabaraTheMan
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I had already decided to stop watching the show based on how last season ended and all of the news coming out about this season, but this just confirms my decision was the correct one.
I'm not going to let myself be spoiled on the experience of reading the remaining books.
I'm not going to let myself be spoiled on the experience of reading the remaining books.
-Pyromaniac-
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hmm I read books then saw the show and I'll be just as hyped to read the books after seeing the show spoil it. Should be FASCINATING.
PhoenixDark
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All I ever wanted to watch was him:
lava punching a dragon
Imagine all the think pieces Victarion would inspire.
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VARIA
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There are characters that are alive in the books that have been killed on the show and vice versa. While they retain the main plot points they are both different in various ways that keeps them both fresh to readers & watchers alike.
The One and Done
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Well duh. Book readers so salty.
Exterminieren
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Good luck to you, but I don't think that not watching the show will save you from spoilers.
Just depends whether you want your spoilers in episode form or in shitty gif form.
The One and Done
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You poor poor soul. I am so sorry.
They probably already cast euron. Next season is gonna pull a Arstan Whitebeard>Sir Barristan on us.The greyjoys were honestly the most interesting thing about the last couple books
Would have been baller if they cast somebody similar to flint in black sails as Euron
I can feel it.
KuwabaraTheMan
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It's possible, but I can't say that I find myself encountering that many Game of Thrones related gifs right now that aren't in threads or on sites dedicated to the series. I'm sure I'll come across some things when the show is airing, but I don't think it will be that hard to avoid most of it.
The One and Done
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Aren't there 2 books left? It's going to be 2027before the last book is published. It's absurdly unrealistic to not be spoiled AT ALL over such a span of time. So many gifs on GAF and the net in general too? Man. I'll pray for your soul on the Nights Watch.
bengraven
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Someone said book readers need to be punished? Punish them? For what, for being fans of something since the late 90s that most people have just heard of in the last few years? Just because you guys clicked a spoiler tag or some rare asshole spoiled something for you doesn't mean we all deserve this. Or because someone laughed at your reaction to a character death that the person already mourned, just like you, years ago?
We put hundreds of hours (double, triple that for re-readings) into these books, spent hours talking to our friends or forums on theories, etc, and all with the promise that these books should have been done almost ten years ago. We invested in this and the writer just can't keep up.
I'm not going to say anything to sound elitist or anything because fans are fans, no matter what, but this "haha book readers" shit is really kind of disgusting. It really sucks for us.
Better get rid of all social media then. And lose contact with friends who watch the show.
Trust me, as a fan of the walking dead show who can't watch every single week and has a backlog, even the official AMC twitter spoils major deaths just days after they happened. You're going to get spoiled in the next 5-7 years.
We put hundreds of hours (double, triple that for re-readings) into these books, spent hours talking to our friends or forums on theories, etc, and all with the promise that these books should have been done almost ten years ago. We invested in this and the writer just can't keep up.
I'm not going to say anything to sound elitist or anything because fans are fans, no matter what, but this "haha book readers" shit is really kind of disgusting. It really sucks for us.
Better get rid of all social media then. And lose contact with friends who watch the show.
Trust me, as a fan of the walking dead show who can't watch every single week and has a backlog, even the official AMC twitter spoils major deaths just days after they happened. You're going to get spoiled in the next 5-7 years.
It's a bit of a gamble. Show finale spoilers will literally be all over the place.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Possibly, but random spoilers being shouted out would impact my enjoyment less than if I had to suffer through another two (or more) seasons of Benioff and Weiss's awful writing.
I can handle having events spoiled in advance, even if I would prefer not to. But the biggest reason why I want to stop watching the show and avoid it spoiling the experience for me is that I don't want my first experience with the material to be something lackluster. Even if I have some deaths or twists spoiled for me, at least my first time reading those scenes will be Martin's prose and not the generally poor level of writing found in the show. I would hate to be reading a scene in the final book and be imagining some much less well done scene from the show just because that came out first.
Oh god, it was inevitable but still. As a reader, I was never worried about spoilers regarding the TV show, but now, its going to be real tough.
As someone who liked watching the TV series when each season was fully aired, this is going to be torture. I prefer watching it all in one weekend as opposed to spreading it out over a few months.
As someone who liked watching the TV series when each season was fully aired, this is going to be torture. I prefer watching it all in one weekend as opposed to spreading it out over a few months.
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