Oh god this would be amazing.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT2| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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Oh god this would be amazing.
Some people say he has similar abilities to Bran, which could mean he sees everything
The dude is a warg/ greenseer. Notice on that undead they catch, his eyes light up like when someone gets controlled.
TheLostBigBoss
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The entire seasons plot points were leaked months ago
Don't talk about leaks either way
SurrenderDorothy
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Damn, saw an article that was titled "The show is conventional fantasy now."
I just don't know what some people expected the final act to look like barring some issues.
I just don't know what some people expected the final act to look like barring some issues.
The "Make Essos Great Again" people did some damage to Drogon with regular weapons not all that long ago.
Lights and Waves
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I just realized that we're probably going to have to sit through some more dull scenes with Sam and his lady and now I'm triggered.
The Artisan
Member
she's right, he wasn't. not until she saved him.
Man I'm just bummed. This season is honestly my 2nd least fav. Just above Season 5 probably. I really want to love it because the scenes are cool if you turn your brain off, but that's not why I fell in love with this show.
Coherently written?
Coherently written?
He's sending one back with Clegane /s
lol well
I don't care much for Jon bending the knee either. I don't think it makes sense for him to do it since she just offered him an equal partnership, but maybe he really doesn't want to be king. Not just that he didn't ask for it, but like its something he actively thinks is counterproductive with the Night King business.
But I'm a sucker for that Dany/Jon romance.
Obliterator
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Yeah I think this is a very legit criticism. Bran is this uber powerful dude now....doing absolutely nothing
But the fan feedback was really good when it came to those.
BigJonsson
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Dany will find out who Jon is and name him heir, then she is screwed
Sleeping Lesson
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Pace is too fast for ponderous flashbacks. They got the info that matters from Bran's timetravel in previous seasons, don't need more.
SurrenderDorothy
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Not that, that would be one of those issues that I agree with.
Darryl M R
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Leaks out for the final episode? I managed to go dark for this one and I heard leaks were out. I'm planning on doing the same.
DoomGyver
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Life will find a way.gif
So, I don't comment on these GOT threads very often (too busy watching/loving this show), and I certainly haven't criticized the "fast travel" before either. It can be kinda wierd/distracting at times, but only because things are happening more quickly than you expect they would. These characters have traveled very quickly all over Westeros seemingly in the span of seconds, but in reality you know they spent days/weeks getting where they needed to go, and frankly, we don't need to see that shit anymore. It's fine, it mostly makes sense, and it saves us precious time as viewers, IMO.
However, what happened in this episode was unbelievably dumb, and kind of a "jump the shark" moment for the show. We're meant to believe that Gendry traveled however many miles back to Eastwatch, sent a raven to Deny that had to fly however many hundreds/thousands of miles to reach her, and then she flew her dragons hundreds/ thousands of miles out to where the "Magnificent 7" were, all in... what, one or two days??? It's so stupid. Also, even if the Night King could see the future and knew the dragons were coming, why not just kill Jon and co. with his I've javelins and then chill while he waits for the Dragon Ex Macina? It's all just so stupid, it hurts.
I mean, I love this show, and I loved this episode. Epic from start to finish, and jam-packed with things I've waited years to see. The Fellowship of the Thrones making their stand against the White Walkers (and an ice bear), the dragons swooping into save the day, and now Ice Dragons and incest are confirmed! So good! But, the Gendry/raven/Dragon fast travel bullshit was just about the dumbest thing this show has ever done, and a stain on an otherwise epic episode. Also, I don't even know what to make of the Winterfell plot at this point, but I'm trying to wait to see how it plays out before passing judgement. So yeah, just venting a bit.
However, what happened in this episode was unbelievably dumb, and kind of a "jump the shark" moment for the show. We're meant to believe that Gendry traveled however many miles back to Eastwatch, sent a raven to Deny that had to fly however many hundreds/thousands of miles to reach her, and then she flew her dragons hundreds/ thousands of miles out to where the "Magnificent 7" were, all in... what, one or two days??? It's so stupid. Also, even if the Night King could see the future and knew the dragons were coming, why not just kill Jon and co. with his I've javelins and then chill while he waits for the Dragon Ex Macina? It's all just so stupid, it hurts.
I mean, I love this show, and I loved this episode. Epic from start to finish, and jam-packed with things I've waited years to see. The Fellowship of the Thrones making their stand against the White Walkers (and an ice bear), the dragons swooping into save the day, and now Ice Dragons and incest are confirmed! So good! But, the Gendry/raven/Dragon fast travel bullshit was just about the dumbest thing this show has ever done, and a stain on an otherwise epic episode. Also, I don't even know what to make of the Winterfell plot at this point, but I'm trying to wait to see how it plays out before passing judgement. So yeah, just venting a bit.
falconxcrunner09
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But they ran on the ice anyways after the Hound antagonized one of them.
And Krauster was also kinda allied with one of the horse riders by supplying babies. So it's possible they are willing to work with the living under the right circumstances. Maybe Little Finger is working with them...
This makes more sense then.
Ah now I recall that scene with him and Bran last season that implied it.
Being a total perv is something.
ComputerBlue
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I do agree, it could have been handled better, there have been several things like that this season, but, this isn't anything new, it's something that has been happening since the first few episodes. For some reason though people seem to accept that and not this.
When you do a series rewatch, pay attention and you'll notice just how common it is from the get go.
But you're right, the show wasn't built on the action and tension but 2 things, one, it's no longer using that detailed source it was built on...There is a reason GRRM is one of better writers. It's not easy doing what he does and he does it really well, without that direct detailed source, things will suffer. You can't escape that unless he finished his work on time as he planned he would. They can't wait for him otherwise Kit and Emilia will be in their 40s suddenly for the last couple seasons.
Finally, gripping action scenes are tough to do especially when, it might be written that certain cast members need that plot armor....so you have to fake tension around them otherwise the action just isn't good enough. I don't mind to suspend disbelief for the sake of fun.
Harrison Bergeron
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No, Rhaegar is her older brother who was killed before she was even born. Jon might also be older than her tooI'm not sure. Dany's mother was pregnant when Robert's Rebellion broke out and the Mad King had his wife and second son Viserys shipped to Dragonstone for safety.
toastyToast
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The Tower of Joy and Arthur Dayne going beast mode was one of the high lights of the series.
I feel like they have too much to do at the moment
streetsahead123
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Speaking of Euron...remember when he was a big deal for like two episodes?
The Artisan
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As a king, and as a ruler though he would have to know that marriages are a sure way to forge alliances; Dany knew this too, Tyrion knew this too so if they got married then his problems become her problems and vice versa but I guess it doesn't matter now since Dany is getting his loyalty for less than that.lol well
I don't care much for Jon bending the knee either. I don't think it makes sense for him to do it since she just offered him an equal partnership, but maybe he really doesn't want to be king. Not just that he didn't ask for it, but like its something he actively thinks is counterproductive with the Night King business.
There's only a few of us but I'm glad we're not alone.
Sleeping Lesson
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Could be. It would be consistent at this point to shovel unearned twists like that at viewers.
If they want to bring Roz back, they could have Bran past-perv her.
Nah the series right now is at it's best imo. It's cut out a lot of the filler. Only thing I don't like right now is this Arya/Sansa plot point but I'm hoping.
Well, I mean if they had taken their time and plotted out things I don't think it would have veered as much into conventional fantasy as it is now. At the beginning of the season and even sort of still now there's a lot of the Game of Thrones politics going on. They're focusing a lot more on the action and fantastical though.
I think we were always headed to a more fantasy ending, though, and I'm totally cool with that. I just didn't think they'd abandon so much that made me love the show in order to trade for that.
VaultBoy101
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He still needs to meet with Jon tho.
Just stop watching.
Ziltoidia 9
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I always thought varys was with god of light and littlefinger was plotting for night king. Was just my suspicion lately because it seems like the two have had long ancient battles.
Enjoyable episode I guess, but the last second saves really irked me. They need to cut it out and not do that shit for the remainder of the series.
Writing was all over the place. Alos, I'm not going to say that characters/ravens seem like they're teleporting, but the time adjustments are really throwing me off. They know they are limited with time, but they put the characters and plot in a situation where time has to advance all in a sudden and it fucks up the pacing of everything.
Night King is another level like he's a MLG Starcraft Pro. 12 steps ahead and now hacked the game to introduce a hero unit.
Writing was all over the place. Alos, I'm not going to say that characters/ravens seem like they're teleporting, but the time adjustments are really throwing me off. They know they are limited with time, but they put the characters and plot in a situation where time has to advance all in a sudden and it fucks up the pacing of everything.
Night King is another level like he's a MLG Starcraft Pro. 12 steps ahead and now hacked the game to introduce a hero unit.
It's so weird because I've been complaining about fast travelling and time skipping madness since episode 1 of this season and every episode after it. This is legitimately the first episode where it didn't bother me at all. We saw that Jon and company were stranded at the same spot for long enough for basically a full day to pass and then some and we know how fast Dany can travel on her dragons. I think it works this episode.
Vestal
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We have been told over and over about the dead coming, about dragons. We have seen the dragons grow, and the dead assemble..
WTF did people expect?
MisterShine
Member
Night King might well be a greenseer like Bran, or something like it at least. Was able to spot Bran in his Astral Projection and interact with him, plus knocked him out of his ravens a few episodes ago.
Hell, the entire show might just be the Night King spying on the South and Essos to see what he's up against, and being none too impressed. He might know everything we do.
The Artisan
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This entire episode could have been better if it was executed better. The outcome was fine though.
ComputerBlue
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Exactly.
I think you're underestimating LF.
It was his intention to plant that seed in her mind. You think that invitation to KL is real? LOL because it's not. He did that all to rid of Brienne.
Obliterator
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I mean you would think he would be doing something at least. He hasn't accomplished one thing this season other than showing back up to Winterfell and acting weird.
They are about the same age.
I agree, this could've been better if it was better.