Whoops, misread. Yeah the white walkers seem to be landbound. Or maybe they're just really lazy.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT2| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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Whoops, misread. Yeah the white walkers seem to be landbound. Or maybe they're just really lazy.
monchi-kun
Member
Maybe they're afraid of the water freezing around them. Watery grave as they say.
DoomGyver
Member
From what I gather the lower level WW are Crastor's children. Obviously the elders are from way back when the children of the forrest created them. I think the more dead a WW resurrects the more powerful it becomes. The Night king has the most resurrections so he controls the most magic. Now he has a dragon and probably achieved max level. It definitely seemed like the Night King had fought dragons before, centuries ago. He wasn't even fazed by their appearance.
Moff
Member
the sfx team deserves all the awards, amazing stuff
This is the first ep I thought was a little messy.
- wasn't convinced why Dany was instantly convinced to fly all 3 dragons to Jon
- travel time seemed too fast for the dragons to get there that quick
- Jon uncle shows up randomly and then dies randomly. Instantly
- arya hating Sansa too fast, unless she is playing everyone
- Sansa sending brienne off......why??? She knows she probably will be killed..... why would she risk this? What's to gain?
All these decisions being made with the quickness before I could truly understand why
MontyBrown
Banned
I love the fast pace, but it feels like there's too few episodes left (overall) to wrap everything up.
Like Bran... what the hell is the whole point of his arc.
While watching the show, I took the "he's too little" line to mean that he wasn't a big enough fish to warrant marrying him. The North might be the biggest kingdom, but it's not the richest or most bountiful. Things Dany needs to consider before getting married.
They were dragonglass daggers.
They were dragonglass daggers.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Something I thought of:
This episode basically gives strong credence to the "Lord of Light" being a fraud. The visions from the flames that were the "Lord of Light's calling" basically ended with them trading a wight for a dragon.
They would have been better off not following the visions.
This episode basically gives strong credence to the "Lord of Light" being a fraud. The visions from the flames that were the "Lord of Light's calling" basically ended with them trading a wight for a dragon.
They would have been better off not following the visions.
Imperfected
Member
Unless dragonglass has significantly different properties from real-world obsidian, making an entire sword out of it is probably a pretty poor plan. They're probably stuck with arrowheads and daggers until someone figures out the macuahuitl.
Pankratous
Member
He prefers dual wielding daggers for a faster attack speed and higher critical rate.
I'd have to imagine he'll have a bigger role in the last season.
monchi-kun
Member
Possible reasons
- Gendry's account of the encounter
- One dragon for evac, maybe 2 (assume full roster was still alive), then one more for cover support
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Cersei will never fight for them, and tbh, I doubt she even needed convincing anyway. She probably would have agreed to a meeting without the wight because she wants the meeting for a chance to kill Dany and everyone else.
So not going north probably doesn't change much on that end, except the Night King has no dragon.
My personal headcanon is that the LoL is just a powerful fire demon that foresaw the white walker threat and so rebranded himself to get followers to work towards defeating them. If the NK wins, if he somehow then crosses into Essos etc. If he kills everything, the fire demon wouldn't have any worshippers sacrificing folks to him.
You can't fault her completely, Arya isn't completely wrong about Sansa. It's pretty fucked that she wants to take Jons place, especially when he's off fighting for his life.
roflwaffles
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Plot twist: Littlefinger is also a faceless man
OmnipotentO
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Bran should be OP af but he's just been sitting there being a robot all season.
DoomGyver
Member
That would be the long con of long cons. Brothel operator trained as a faceless man.
I think Cersie will agree to peace and join the fight against the WW, all the while conspiring behind their back to attack Dany's forces while they're fighting the WW.
Dany should just take one dragon to the meeting and let them guess where the other two are. If they don't find out that one's missing.
Dude's still wrapping his head around downloading the entire history of the world.
Dude's still wrapping his head around downloading the entire history of the world.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Last thought before I get out of here and get some sleep(if I can). IBD nights are the worst.
We saw in this episode that it's almost like the writers have an endgame and write scenarios based off of that endgame. For example, many people in this thread tonight said the episode felt forced. Like they just wanted to give the Night King a dragon, so they wrote this scenario around it. Now we don't know if this premise is true, but just pretending it is for a second...
I thought what could be the scenario that turns Jaime against Cersei? What has been Jaime's one weak spot other than Cersei? Brienne. They had a very strong connection. Well now, Brienne is headed for King's Landing.
Maybe something happens between the two of them that gets Jaime to turn on Cersei. Or something.
We saw in this episode that it's almost like the writers have an endgame and write scenarios based off of that endgame. For example, many people in this thread tonight said the episode felt forced. Like they just wanted to give the Night King a dragon, so they wrote this scenario around it. Now we don't know if this premise is true, but just pretending it is for a second...
I thought what could be the scenario that turns Jaime against Cersei? What has been Jaime's one weak spot other than Cersei? Brienne. They had a very strong connection. Well now, Brienne is headed for King's Landing.
Maybe something happens between the two of them that gets Jaime to turn on Cersei. Or something.
He saw some season 8 spoilers. No way he's going back in there.
DarkJediKnight
Member
And Sansa purposely withheld the Knights of the Vale from Jon. Her endgame was always to be the lady of Winterfell. Had Jon died, I don't think she would be too upset. She never liked him because he isn't a trueborn Stark.
This is all I'm getting excited for in the finale. That staredown.
Shambalakan
Member
Jaime be like: OK we totally gotta help these guys in the North.
Cersie be like: OK we're totally killing these guys.
Jaime: WUT
broncobuster
Banned
Jaime's opinion means jack shit to Cercei.
7he Talon
Member
Just finished watching the episode. Still need to time to take in the whole episode, but some thoughts straight up.
I thought overall it was really good! The action was great, a lot of waiting around on an ice island, but that's cool. I was very disappointed with Jon 'bending' the knee.
Keen to see what happens next episode. It'll obviously end on a really annoying cliff hanger and we'll have to wait until 2019 to have it resolved.
I thought overall it was really good! The action was great, a lot of waiting around on an ice island, but that's cool. I was very disappointed with Jon 'bending' the knee.
Keen to see what happens next episode. It'll obviously end on a really annoying cliff hanger and we'll have to wait until 2019 to have it resolved.
Double Donut
Member
Random little question, but does Sansa know about Jon being killed and resurrected? I can't remember if he told her or not back in season six.
Wait nevermind, now I remember Tormund saying the "he died for us" speech back when he was recruiting the wildlings with Jon and Sansa. Derp.
Wait nevermind, now I remember Tormund saying the "he died for us" speech back when he was recruiting the wildlings with Jon and Sansa. Derp.
Human Trashcan
Banned
Pretty sure that was Arya who sent Brienne off. Sansa just talked with LF about how keeping Brienne close would be the smart thing to do, and right after Arya said pointedly that she can be anyone, even Sansa. She needed Brienne gone to get close to Sansa, I guess. To what end, I have no fucking clue.
That would explain the early use of teleporting.
Sodding_Gamer
Member
I reckon Arya and Sansa are deliberately creating a rift to draw littlefinger out I think.
Human Trashcan
Banned
that makes no sense. Why would they act antagonistic towards eachother when they're in private then? Arya's just being a shit.
Arya has to kill a person before she can become them.
But Arya doesn't have Sansa's face? I thought she needs her face to become Sansa?
I have assumed that he can see as much as Bran, if not more. He was expecting Jon and his guys and probably Dany with her dragons to rescue them. He picked out Viserion because that's the one he's 'meant' to have.
That's probably what makes the absence of Bran stand out a bit for me. He should be the general in this war and we don't know what's he's up to. Then there's the fight between Sansa and Arya, neither mentioned him.