The Artisan
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No. The old man had more personality than this current teenage Bran does.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT2| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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No. The old man had more personality than this current teenage Bran does.
mercenar1e
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The Artisan
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Bran is the Night king. Jon is the Night king. Rhaegar is the Night king.
Can't the Night king just fucking be that guy we saw the forest child stab in the heart with dragonglass?!
Can't the Night king just fucking be that guy we saw the forest child stab in the heart with dragonglass?!
cartographer
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You forgot Longclaw.
She he's a brooding fuck because he found out that it's actually him he has to stop? But if Bran's the Night King, that means future him does something to get himself sent to the past. Just kill yourslef now bro, and save everyone. I don't get why that's such a hard decision for him.
I think it's a pretty silly theory. We saw how the Night King got made a while back.
ComputerBlue
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haha probably the dumbest theory of all.
Nameless
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A more likely theory is the Night King sees what Bran sees, or at least part of it, after 'touching' him. After all they didn't actually make physical contact with each other, it was more some psychic reach across the void shit. Makes sense if their connection was similar in nature. He immediately sensed Bran's ravens and knocked him out the warg state.
The Artisan
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No. Leave the Night king and his identity alone
Imperfected
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The fact they opt to never actually identify the Three-Eyed Raven does make me think they want to pull some shenanigans, there.
Ze Night King's just zis guy, you know?
The Artisan
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Atomic Odin
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Its amazing how Bran = Night King theory has gained so much traction. All because apparently they wear similar type of clothing and maybe walk with a similar gait.
Ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
Imperfected
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I mean they also apparently have some weird-ass psychic bond or overlap in their powers, and they're both huge cunts who like to stand around doing nothing aside from looking completely stoned for days on end during periods of extreme duress for those around them.
If nothing else they clearly should be best bros.
Some things that really bugged me....
1. Where the heck were the obsidian weapons? All that dragonstone stuff and they use normal swords 90% of the time. Tipped arrows? New swords? Anything....all I saw was like two little daggers.
2. The thin sheet of ice. I mean how many years was it freaking frozen solid north of the wall? Yet here they are, its thin and only freezes enough in the day or so they are trapped? Come on.
3. The chains. No sense.
4. Time passage is off the rails. Sansa hadn't heard from Jon in "weeks"...that implies some distance from the wall. Except when the dead army traps Jon and company - what's his face runs ALL the way back to the wall, gets the raven sent, Dany gets the message and flies back all in essentially no time. At best it's a day. Even if the raven was speed of light this is way off....if Dragonstone is that freaking close she could have done a quick tour or check (little day outing) and check out the undead army.
I did love some things though - Arya and Sansa drama due to Littlefinger and the turned dragon (saw that one a mile away).
1. Where the heck were the obsidian weapons? All that dragonstone stuff and they use normal swords 90% of the time. Tipped arrows? New swords? Anything....all I saw was like two little daggers.
2. The thin sheet of ice. I mean how many years was it freaking frozen solid north of the wall? Yet here they are, its thin and only freezes enough in the day or so they are trapped? Come on.
3. The chains. No sense.
4. Time passage is off the rails. Sansa hadn't heard from Jon in "weeks"...that implies some distance from the wall. Except when the dead army traps Jon and company - what's his face runs ALL the way back to the wall, gets the raven sent, Dany gets the message and flies back all in essentially no time. At best it's a day. Even if the raven was speed of light this is way off....if Dragonstone is that freaking close she could have done a quick tour or check (little day outing) and check out the undead army.
I did love some things though - Arya and Sansa drama due to Littlefinger and the turned dragon (saw that one a mile away).
Atomic Odin
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When he grabbed his hand in S6, NK probably wanted a hug or something. Bran is rude.
Imperfected
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Time and space are mere suggestions to True Bromance.
Atomic Odin
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Its just inconsistent with the logic they have shown in previous seasons. When WW are in vicinity every little droplet freezes & peoples teeths start chattering like hell. Now though that is conveniently forgotten.
On a similar note I read (probably here) a theory why WW are kinda iffy when they see water. Wouldn't want to get submerged & freeze instantly with it now would they?
Imperfected
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Get stuck trundling around like a Frost Atronach from Skyrim for a few days until the other White Walkers stop laughing and give them a hand chiseling out of it.
Hard to do your panty-dropper "come hither, my undead legions" poses when you look like an icy StayPuff Marshmallow Man.
Atomic Odin
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Warging/time travelling don't work on him apparently. God knows how many more unknown Deus ex powers we're gonna see him unleash. Children of the forest were on some really strong weed when they created him.
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They specifically said that they would never have the Night King speak.
The Artisan
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well that sucks.
The Blackwater chain didn't make it to the show.
You would think that anyone making a weapon this powerful would have a means to counter act it right? It is so incredibly stupid of them not to imagine a scenario where they lose control. Seriously, I want to know what they had in place originally to control him.
Well fuck, I kept wondering if it happened after the wild fire explosion, but that would make sense as to why I couldn't visualise it.
BigJonsson
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The what? Is that from the book :|
The Artisan
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how the NKing got the chains doesn't bother me, but how he got his zombies to wrap it around Viserion's neck is what I don't get. It's not like the zombies swam down there with the chains; they're heavy enough as it is and these zombies are supposed to deactivate as soon as they're submerged in a body of water...
Apparently. Saw a funny pic with show characters and it didn't even cross my mind that it never happened. Sorry guys didn't know it came from the books.
I edited the meme pic out of my original post.
Atomic Odin
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DragoonKain
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I went back and rewatched this scene. When they pulled him from the hole, it was completely frozen over in ice and them pulling up Viserion broke through it. So basically, they someone climbed down there and wrapped chains around him without making a hole in the ice.
Atomic Odin
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Probably (incredibly) stupid enough to believe he will recognize them as his masters and do their bidding. I guess we will never know what with exposition taking a back seat.
soundscream
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Bran is Bran the builder so he gets a bonus n . Brann
Brann is the three eyed raven so he has an extra i. Briann
Bran cant walk so he gets pushed/pulled everywhere so life is eazy on his legs. So he gets a big e for that. Brianne.
In conclusion Bran is Brianne. Thats where all his emotions for his sisters went, into Brianne.
DodgyGeezerFella
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Bran is looking at so much porn.
The Artisan
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I was being careful with my wording for this reason. I said submerged, because I remembered this scene specifically - were the zombies' torsos still above the water? Or were they submerged and popped their heads out?They are?
Someone climbed down where? Into the lake? The water under the sheet of ice is still frozen though. What do you mean?
They deactivate in water? Is this true? I thought they just sink but are still active until they freeze. If this is the case then I'm guessing they'd sacrifice a couple guys to wrap the chains and just freeze forever down there. A few normal undead aren't worth nearly as much as an ice wyvern.
These fuckers seriously deserved to be crushed by the first men. If you've got magic powerful enough to create something like the Night King, how are a bunch of Bronze Age humans punking you?
ComputerBlue
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There is a hole in the ice though, all around the chains.
The Artisan
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I guess it is unclear. I don't know why the zombie army wouldn't come after Jon Snow & the wildlings in the water at Hardhome, if that's the case.
In this episode when Jon gets knocked into the water it looks like all the other zombies in the water with him became motionless.
DragoonKain
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When they pull Viserion out of the lake, the water froze over. It's completely solid and frozen over when they pull him out.
So either the writers/director overlooked it, or the undead climbed down there tied the chains around him and just sat around doing nothing until the lake totally froze over in that spot before pulling Viserion out. It's not really a big deal, I was just poking fun at a little goof(if it is one).
DragoonKain
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I thought the ice was completely frozen and formed around the chains, maybe my eyes played tricks on me in the second viewing.
So every time the undead got ahold of one of the no name guys, they stabbed them, and they ripped them apart. When something like 5 of them get all over Tormund, no one is stabbing him, and the one dude breathing his nasty breath on his face, doesn't even bite his face off.
Atomic Odin
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I dunno, I see them emerge from water like they were submerged. It just inconsistencies that frustrates me. With WW so close the water in that hole should have frozen over in the first place. Likewise when they pulled Viserion up (ignoring the chain shenanigans) that water should have instantly frozen with more than WW present there along with NK.
Its just at the convenience of writers. When they see fit, wights are wasted interacting with water. When they want a scene with tension wights manage just fine.
Dragons fighting the White Walkers in this episode was pretty unexpected, I mean, not so much when Jon tells Gendry to go get Dany but going into it, I had no idea that fight was going to happen.
The Artisan
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The surface is frozen over but the water is still frozen underneath. I guess what I'm confused about is what do you mean when you say they climbed to get to his neck?
Yeah you're right, it's just an inconsistency and it annoys me too. I wasn't even thinking about it when the scene happened because you're like all caught up in the moment of wtf what's gonna happen to Tormund
Arya is a faceless... come on.
Plot armor has been incredible this season.
This is a great meme that is actually true to the 2016 election. Arya is trying to make a bullshit scandal out of irrelevant, out of context private communications.
Sidenote, I'm glad people are realising what a brat Arya is and that Sansa is the best Stark.