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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT2| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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Muffin1611
Banned
What if Bran wargs into Bran
What if Bran wargs into Jaime to push himself off the ledge, sending himself on the path to become the 3-eyed raven in the first place
smoothj
Member
You get a loop back and the whole thing goes down.
Imperfected
Member
"I'll be like Professor X, and you can be like Magneto, it'll be super cool!" Bran told the Night King. Little was Bran to know, the Night King was really into Apocalypse.
Seductivpancakes
Member
Maybe that's how he regains his legs back.
They become Bran, because everyone is Bran.
DarkJediKnight
Member
They have no recollection of what Happened.and they go back to being themselves.
Nameless
Member
Everyone except Jaquen who's no one
Guys, I'm referring to Jon deciding that moment was the perfect opportunity to go for the level complete trophy. I know it was Tyrion's god awful plan that started it, but Jon lost focus and decided to go play hero ball.
The Artisan
Member
That's cold, man...
That comment by Mel got this reaction from me, while everyone else was freaking out.
You're going to die on the continent you spent most of your life living on? That's so pedestrian as far as prophecies and visions go.
Dany is pragmatic, she'd keep him around until a decent cock merchant gave a good price.
Imperfected
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That comment by Mel got this reaction from me, while everyone else was framing out.
You're going to die on the continent you spent most of your life living on? That's so pedestrian as far as prophecies and visions go.
It doesn't help that Mel is the bint that followed Stannis around for years telling everyone he was the Prince Who Was Promised.
The Hound is a more reliable prophet. Those chickens got fucking wrecked.
Nameless
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That comment by Mel got this reaction from me, while everyone else was framing out.
You're going to die on the continent you spent most of your life living on? That's so pedestrian as far as prophecies and visions go.
Ahh, and we were doing so well...
Obviously I kid but, seriously, Mel has probably had a bigger impact on the story and world than any other character:
-Killed Renly, giving Stannis back his army. 1/5 Kings in the War of the Five Kings down.
-"The Usurper Robb Stark." 2/5 Kings in the War of the Five Kings down.
-"The Usurper Joffrey Baratheon." 3/5 Kings in the War of the Five Kings down.
-"The Usurper Balon Greyjoy." 4/5 Kings in the War of the Five Kings down.
-Influenced Stannis to go North(and bring Shireen) instead of King Landing which saved The Wall but led to his downfall. 5/5 Kings in the War of the Five Kings down.
-Set Mance on fire prompting Jon's mercy arrow. King Beyond the Wall down.
-Told Gendry who his kingly father was.
-Told Arya of her murderous future.
-Resurrected The One True King and true heir to the Targaryen dynasty.
-Brought Ice & Fire together which probably saved the world.
You can bet your ass when she returns to that strange country to die it will have profound ramifications.
DarkJediKnight
Member
I think You're more on the nose than you think. Hound has seen the Lord of light's work. He totally believes in it now. With Thoros dead, i think the Hound will take up the mantle of Red priest once the fighting is done.
Vincent Alexander
Member
I can't wait for us to watch Mel get hers. She has done too much fucked up shit in this show, considering all the people she has had burnt alive.
Ahh, and we were doing so well...
Obviously I kid but, seriously, Mel has probably had a bigger impact on the story and world than any other character:
-Killed Renly, giving Stannis back his army. 1/5 Kings in the War of the Five Kings down.
-"The Usurper Robb Stark." 2/5 Kings in the War of the Five Kings down.
-"The Usurper Joffrey Baratheon." 3/5 Kings in the War of the Five Kings down.
-"The Usurper Balon Greyjoy." 4/5 Kings in the War of the Five Kings down.
-Influenced Stannis to go North(and bring Shireen) instead of King Landing which saved The Wall but led to his downfall. 5/5 Kings in the War of the Five Kings down.
-Set Mance on fire prompting Jon's mercy arrow. King Beyond the Wall down.
-Told Gendry who his kingly father was.
-Told Arya of her murderous future.
-Resurrected The One True King and true heir to the Targaryen dynasty.
-Brought Ice & Fire together which probably saved the world.
You can bet your ass when she returns to that strange country to die it will have profound ramifications.
I don't know why people keep saying that like it means anything lol. Visarys wasn't a prince, he was styled a King, and with Jon in the Watch and Visarys dead, Dany rightfully became Queen Daenarys not crown princess Daenarys. So sure, Jon is the legitimate heir (thanks to a technicality), but he's the heir to the already established Queen.
On top of that, the Targaryens lost the right to throne by way of succession anyways. The only way Dany or Jon can get Cersei's ass off of the throne is by way of conquest. I hope he tries making that claim, just to see Cersei laugh in his face. "Come and get it Snow King! What's that? You only have your puny Northern army and the Vale supporting you, and you can't march them south to fight me? Well then I think you need to shut the fuck up right?!" It would actually make me like Cersei a bit. Just a giant fuck you to all these fans who think being Rhaegar's legitimate son is suddenly going to make him special.
But I do agree with the rest of your points. Mel like Cersie have been people of action. I was just pointing out that telling Varys he's bound to die where he lives, is neighbourhood psychic lady levels of foresight.
"I see death in your future, and it is going to happen somewhere in this vast continent you call home."
I could have told Varys that lol.
Imperfected
Member
I mean, I don't know why fans get hung up on "the true king" anyway.
I get why it matters in-setting, but as a viewer you are (or should be) entirely aware that the Targaryens were just a bunch of fucking assholes who murdered everyone and took their shit because they had big lizards.
Then other assholes murdered them and took their shit.
Then a right proper bitch murdered them and continued having their shit.
Having a preference for one of these assholes over the other based on their birth name is honestly kind of weird, you aren't a 13th century serf.
I get why it matters in-setting, but as a viewer you are (or should be) entirely aware that the Targaryens were just a bunch of fucking assholes who murdered everyone and took their shit because they had big lizards.
Then other assholes murdered them and took their shit.
Then a right proper bitch murdered them and continued having their shit.
Having a preference for one of these assholes over the other based on their birth name is honestly kind of weird, you aren't a 13th century serf.
BigJonsson
Member
Maybe Bran will warg into Littlefinger and we'll find out where he got that name
I was also thinking.....if the Lord of Light is the Night King is he going to turn Dany and John to fight for him? Will Cersei have to save the 7 Kingdoms lol
I was also thinking.....if the Lord of Light is the Night King is he going to turn Dany and John to fight for him? Will Cersei have to save the 7 Kingdoms lol
Crusader Kings II? Seems it even has GoT mod, but some shitty DLC practices.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Bran already knows. That is why he gave away the dagger. He'd rather not touch anything those little fingers touched.
Well at least I think one of the contenders has put together an A-List line up to actually wrestle the throne from Cersei. People jumping up and down like, "he's the right heir to the throne" puzzle me. I don't see a Baratheon father listed on that birth certificate and marriage license, so how is he the heir to the throne? Plus buddy doesn't even have the means to take the throne even if he wanted it.
It's hilarious to me that people think Cersei gives a rat's ass that Jon is the legitimate son to the dude whose family got the boot. "Oh you're Raggar's son? Well why didn't you say that? Come sit on the throne your family built." The lady took the throne by killing the previous Queen, and helping the previous king commit suicide. She isn't about to bend the knee because Jon Snow is really Jon Targaryen. She is defiant to the Targaryen with dragons, she isn't in the least concerned with the one with a rag tag army and a brooding demeanour.
It's hilarious to me that people think Cersei gives a rat's ass that Jon is the legitimate son to the dude whose family got the boot. "Oh you're Raggar's son? Well why didn't you say that? Come sit on the throne your family built." The lady took the throne by killing the previous Queen, and helping the previous king commit suicide. She isn't about to bend the knee because Jon Snow is really Jon Targaryen. She is defiant to the Targaryen with dragons, she isn't in the least concerned with the one with a rag tag army and a brooding demeanour.
Imperfected
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Pretty much. Even if they had a protracted legal custody battle over the Seven Kingdoms and Daenerys lost, she would presumably just remember, "Oh right, I'm a Targaryen. The entire reason we were in charge to begin with was because my ancestor rumbled in from Essos with a dragon entourage and ganked that shit. Yoink!"
I doubt there are many chivalrous knights who actually care about the rites and lineages left in Westeros, at this point in the story. Brienne, I suppose? That's probably about it.
I doubt there are many chivalrous knights who actually care about the rites and lineages left in Westeros, at this point in the story. Brienne, I suppose? That's probably about it.
Tormund...NIGHT KING!?!
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Vincent Alexander
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I love this season because this is the season where I went from kind-of not caring about who ends up on the throne to absolutely not caring about who ends up on the throne. I just wanna see Cersei dead and white walkers get razzled.
Spoilers!
Even in our own history, once your family gets the boot, those of you left in exile still styling yourselves the King/Queen in exile, it doesn't matter unless you can come back and take your shit by force. Does Jon have the means to take back the Iron Throne by force? Nope. So I guess that's a moot point.
On top of that, the only major houses that were loyal to the Targaryens were the Tyrells and the Martells. Both of which have been destroyed. So he doesn't even have previous crown loyalists to butter up for a move on the throne. Also, he's going to have a bigger problem close to home if he's true identity is revealed. Forget the Iron Throne, can King Snow keep his home in order if who his father is becomes known?
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Does anyone know if the Night King can make White Walkers(not wights) out of corpses? Has it been confirmed anywhere if he can only make wights out of them or WW's too?
I don't think so or he would've done that to all the Wildlings at Hardhome. Seems like they have to be living people.
I thought the White Walkers were living (the Night King, the babies) and the zombies were reanimated dead corpses. What I want to know is who are the class of White Walkers that are made to run around beyond the wall like the ice version of Tarzan? Those guys do their business in loin clothes while Night King and his squad have tailored matching armour.
Imperfected
Member
I assume the Northern lords would immediately rebel against him.
I think that's basically always a safe assumption, under all circumstances.
*The Northern Lords are informed that Jon Snow is really Jon Targaryen*
Lord Glover:
"There was a reason I never was 100% in with this guy!"
Lord Royce:
"A Targaryen can never be trusted!"
Lady Mormont:
"I'm going to have to take back my vote. I only bend knees to Starks."
ComputerBlue
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LOL.
Seductivpancakes
Member
Homies first bruh
PixelatedBookake
Junior Member
Can Dany be burned by wildfire? 🤔
CountAntonius
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shinra-bansho
Member
The way royal succession typically works Dany would be behind Jon. The same way Harry is like 5th of something now rather than 3rd.
That's it, that's our way in. Appeal to the White Walker working class. Some one is making those armours and weapons, is also being tasked with collecting babies, and doing all sorts of other menial work. Night King and his buddies dress sharp, look fed, while Tom and his mates look like they just stepped out of a bread line, and have been working on less than minimum wage. The tyranny of the
But Dany is already queen by lawful means through the Targ chain of succession. Her brother dying and Jon joinig the watch, allowed her to become the lawful Targaryen Queen, and she ruled as queen in Mereen before Jon's death and resurrection. I've never heard of a sitting queen who's ascension was lawful, losing her crown due to a technicality like Jon's.
Harry's situation is different due to the fact that he's never in a position where he rightfully has no one else ahead of him including the sitting monarch of his line.
Nah, she seems resistant to all manner of heat. She went into boiling water, she picked up a dragon egg from burning coals. She's immune to dragonfire. No reason the expect wildfire would he any different.
Imperfected
Member
You think they'll take that bad, wait until they learn he was born in fucking Dorne.
I mean, Roose was already a birther even before he had proof.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Its hot in the South.