Cousins are accepted, and Catelyn's sister wanted to hook up Sansa with her son. Tywin also married his cousin. Aunt/nephew isn't accepted.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT2| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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Cousins are accepted, and Catelyn's sister wanted to hook up Sansa with her son. Tywin also married his cousin. Aunt/nephew isn't accepted.
He said he transcribed it. She was reading his notes.
They *never* trusted Littlefinger. Even if he had thought he was actually innocent of what he was accused of, he might have bit his tongue just to be rid of Littlefinger. From the perspective of the Vale nights, Sansa is the niece of their late Lord/Lady and the Lady of Winterfell, and LF is just some prick who showed up and made things shit. Their loyalty is to the Arryn's and Sansa is of the same family. So yes, the word of a Stark (or 3) is enough, especially if it's the Lady of Winterfell.
Plus the explanation makes to much sense to just ignore.
Netherscourge
Banned
Did Lyanna tell Ned she married Rhaegar? Did Ned know anything about the annulment?
Ned only knew Jon was Lyanna's son, and a bastard of Rhaegar - through rape. I doubt she had time to go through all the other shit while she lay dying.
No kingslayer means... Oh fuck it who knows who's trolling anyway
Darryl M R
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Act with honor.
Sounds like a break in his character to not do the honorable thing especially when it comes to the next ruler of the realm.
Lyanna told him that Jon name is Aegon Targ. Giving him the last name implies to me that he is not a bastard since Lyanna would know the customs of this fictional world.
ComputerBlue
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lmao...
No, I think its gross...But I've been crushin on Emilia Clarke pretty hard for a long time now so any sexy scenes involving her are alright with me.
If you're a fan: it's real good.
If you're a TV critic: you'll likely hate it.
If you're a casual fan: it's fine.
LF admitted to murdering Lyssa.
darkwing-buck
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At least we got a cool ass character like Jaime lmao!
I don't think Robert knew the truth, so it's not like he made up a lie while knowing the truth. Could be wrong here tho. And don't forget that the Mad King murdered Ned's father and brother.
Also remember in season 1 Robert was adamant about killing Dany even tho Ned said she wasn't a threat. Do you think he would have handled Ned telling the truth about Jon better than that?
Pretty good, yeah! Some big moments but not as many as season 6's ending.
exactly
Bran doesn't exist anymore. He's the three eyed raven now.
SurrenderDorothy
Banned
The honourable thing was to listen to his sister though, you can't spin this on Ned.
Not to mention the Targaryens killed his father and brother, which was the first act of war.
He had no love for them.
Obliterator
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I wonder how this plays out. Does Bran still tell Jon once he finds out they are fucking? If he does how do the two of them react? Still keep going through with it or call it off?
ComputerBlue
Member
That would be fucking dope, I need it to happen now.
He painted himself into a corner in Winterfell once the kids reunited. Would still be around if it wasn't for his weakness for Stark women, who judged and executed him for his crimes after outplaying him.
I think he came to doubt the rape bit when Lyanna named the kid Aegon. Why would she honor the man who raped her by giving him one of the rapist's family names?
Winterblink
Member
So why are the walkers walking now? They undead, and we've seen them run. At this point why not just go into a wholesale sprint while the white dragon fucks over everything ahead of the advancing army.
Considering that they're having every single character have a little stilted conversation about their past with every other character, probably
Yes, Jaime does bad things when he has to and he has had to do a lot of those to protect Cersei but he never really enjoyed doing them. I'm sure throwing Bran off that tower isn't one of his proudest moments.
Break in character?
Like killing everyone within the Tower of Joy after Lyanna dies?
SurrenderDorothy
Banned
They're patient.
Why would he do that?
I think the temperature matters weirdly.
Harrison Bergeron
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Yeah, Tywin sent the Mountain in to kill the Targaryen babies and Rhaegar's ex wife to impress Robert and gain his trust.
If Robert knew about other Aegon Targaryenit would have been half Stark blood.
Aegon (Jon) is still Ned's family. It's his nephew.
Obliterator
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I get the vibe if they do Bran will act cool with it because he will pull some "If you never did that to me I never could have become the Three Eyed Raven" thing
He promised Lyanna to keep him safe, him saying anything about having the true king under his protection won't be accomplishing that.
She said his name was Aegon Targaryan, he knew he was legitimate.
It actually hasn't been but oh well.
maybe because they're a bit brittle
iShouldGoPro
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Protecting your family isn't honorable anymore?
I think the show writers were trying to convince us that he was dumb enough to believe he could convince Sansa to kill Arya and declare war against the dragon queen. If they allied with Cersei and built more ballistas it could even have worked, clean up Cersei's armies afterwards and take the Iron Throne.
The crucially stupid part of this plan is believing he could make Sansa betray her family for nothing but ambition. Littlefinger just isn't dumb to believe he can say: "Think the worst of Arya!" and suddenly see Sansa execute her little sister and declare war against her brother
SurrenderDorothy
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Conkerkid11
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Nah, I understand how he got the original title. People have been speculating that the title will come back around though and he'll end up doing it again.
NYR
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The battle of the trident was BEFORE Ned found Lyanna. Everything was already done by then, the battle and war was basically over. See wiki summary here:
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
That whole arc was pretty disappointing, they were so focused on obfuscating a twist that everyone could see coming a mile away anyway, that they failed to sell it. They should have played it straight and shown us the Starks outwitting LF.
His motivations and character traits seem pretty clear.
idk reading few pages back about plotting with Cersei after knowing she was pregnant.
I'm still confused about what that face meant while Dany and Jon were making love.
You just posted about that.
Wait a minute. Jarmel? Jorah? Coincidence? I don't think so.
HighResTomato
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Night King hit lvl 70
I think they wrote this episode to make us wonder if something like that would happen. He tells Cersei he loved Tommen and Myrcella, which is true, he only hated Joffrey because he was an evil piece of shit. When he finds out she is pregnant, the scene cuts off and we don't know what else they talked about, then we find out she actually is lying about joining Dany and Jon and then there's the scene with Tyrion looking at Dany's cabinet with an odd expression in his face. It could be all red herring but they've definitely planted the seeds for a possible betrayal.
love twitter.
Do we think Martin is dark enough to have that baby die in Dany's womb and be turned by the Night King and ultimately tear her apart from the inside? After of course more fast forward fuckery.
"You pushed me to become who I was meant to be."
Obliterator
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Jon on the show at least has always been an emotions first kind of dude. He's always had his heart on his sleeve. Nothing here felt out of character at all to me