Even their shitty ships are probably capable. And it's not hard to catch up with ships that are staying in one location for who knows how many hours they were sitting there while the unsullied killed everyone.
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Even their shitty ships are probably capable. And it's not hard to catch up with ships that are staying in one location for who knows how many hours they were sitting there while the unsullied killed everyone.
They did fuck up Euron's teleporting by showing his ship there, or by not showing any passage of time at Casterly Rock. Couple questions though
Did we specifically get word that Grey Worm and Yara/Ellaria all left at the same time?
Is 2 flagships a thing in any kind of naval situation or whatever?
Maybe Euron is cool with lending his flagship to his second in command? If he can build a whole fleet from tree barren islands, what's a flagship to him anyway?
Did we specifically get word that Grey Worm and Yara/Ellaria all left at the same time?
Is 2 flagships a thing in any kind of naval situation or whatever?
Maybe Euron is cool with lending his flagship to his second in command? If he can build a whole fleet from tree barren islands, what's a flagship to him anyway?
yara and theon stole about 100 ships, while the iron fleet is about 1000 ships. what do you think?
edit: also, do we see the flagship at casterly rock?
Vincent Alexander
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If I want to make this make sense in my head, maybe those who ambushed at Casterly Rock was reserve forces leftover from Iron Islands since they are nearby?That was the plan actually. But they wanted to take Casterly Rock first and rally Dorne.
We're asked to believe that Euron's been sailing his entire fleet within spitting distance of Dragonstone the entire time, once to ambush Yara, once when delivering Euron's captives, and a third time to ambush Greyworm. Also it's implied Dany still has ships in reserve, which is what they used to ferry the Dothraki troops to the mainland.
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Never mind. I see I am WAY late on this.
ComputerBlue
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Where was it mentioned that it's a thousand ships?
Regardless it would take years to build a single flagship of that size. Even longer considering the Ironborn apparently don't have any lumber stores.
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All I can see is that Euron ordered his men to build a thousand ships, nothing about the original size of the fleet.
Accept that it is fan fiction designed to please the broadest possible audience at this point and enjoy the ride.
They are looking for the most epic and magical conclusion to the series. They cannot capture the personality and depth of the first few seasons, so they are going for melodrama and fireworks.
They are looking for the most epic and magical conclusion to the series. They cannot capture the personality and depth of the first few seasons, so they are going for melodrama and fireworks.
dude, even dany said to yara that euron fleet was bigger, why would take yara and theon as allies when Euron proposal was better for her.
thats when they say to her that he would want to marry her or there is no fleet
So, uhhh, I was wondering... what happened to Grey Worm and the unsullied??? Are they all just dead off-screen? Are they still fighting Euron two episodes later? They can't just teleport back to Dany like everybody else? Did the writers just forget because of the awesomeness that it is Jon, the Hound, and Gendry "the hammer" Baratheon fighting White Walkers together?
They're either still holding Casterly Rock with no supplies or they're marching across Westeros with no supplies.
They burned their ships so they eventually will have to leave Casterly Rock since there's no food there. We have not been told if they left yet or are they still, it's not that the writers forgot, it's that it's supposed to be a mystery right now.
Sanctuary
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Sorry if it's been posted multiple times already, but I just saw this and am dying.
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LiquidSolid
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Anyone else notice that the number of people north of the wall at the moment doesn't add up with the number we saw in the Season 7 trailer?
Edit: It's a really old trailer but spoiler tagged to be safe.
There's clearly 12 people in that scene.
Edit: It's a really old trailer but spoiler tagged to be safe.
SuperStiltzkin
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They have a bunch of wildling red shirts going with them as well at the end of this episode.
There were people behind Jon and crew at the end of the ep.
Some wildlings go along with the group of 7. They are just shown in the background when the main 7 walk out.
Ocarina_117
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Going by show timings, the unsullied have been at the rock for a long ass time. They must be close to starvation by now.
LiquidSolid
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Ah, that makes sense now, cheers. I thought they were just guarding the gate.
Triggerhappytel
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Yes, I agree. Episodes 4 & 5 should be the huge battle to destroy the Night King's army, and then the final episode should mostly be surveying the damage and characters making their final moves in the Game.
With one swing, 100 walkers will just burst into flames.
In fairness, his entire fleet didn't need to go to KL, only his ship needed to. The rest of the fleet could've stayed outside of Blackwater Bay while he delivered his captives.That was the plan actually. But they wanted to take Casterly Rock first and rally Dorne.
We're asked to believe that Euron's been sailing his entire fleet within spitting distance of Dragonstone the entire time, once to ambush Yara, once when delivering Euron's captives, and a third time to ambush Greyworm. Also it's implied Dany still has ships in reserve, which is what they used to ferry the Dothraki troops to the mainland.
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Please stop, I cannot get more erect. 🙉
Lol, OK.
Yeah, I guess so. Idk, it's just wierd to have any specific plot just kind of stall like that when everything else is moving at a breakneck pace. I'm really undecided if the accelerated pace and reduced episode count this season is a good thing or not. On the on hand, things feel really rushed and even a tad sloppy at times. On the other hand, there's all kinds of epic shit going down every episode, and there's almost never a dull moment.
Dragons didn't die out 300 years ago, but rather that Aegon conquered Westeros 300 years ago with dragons lol.
There's one plausible explanation for the Yara/Ellaria ambush, which is that when Euron first showed up in KL, he's been ranging the coasts between KL and Dorne a few weeks before Dany and friends arrived. This is how he managed to ambush Yara (Jaime/Cersei was expecting an expedition to Dorne already).
The rest is just straight up teleportation though. I assume the battle for Casterly Rock took a day because there's no evidence at all to the contrary and Euron showed up by the end of that day. There's another possibility of a fleet simply waiting near Casterly Rock waiting for the Unsullied to disembark before going after the ships. But I have to wonder why Cersei is bothering with these maneuvers when she could just blockade Dragonstone entirely.
The rest is just straight up teleportation though. I assume the battle for Casterly Rock took a day because there's no evidence at all to the contrary and Euron showed up by the end of that day. There's another possibility of a fleet simply waiting near Casterly Rock waiting for the Unsullied to disembark before going after the ships. But I have to wonder why Cersei is bothering with these maneuvers when she could just blockade Dragonstone entirely.
Triggerhappytel
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I dunno about that, but I can see Jon upgrading to his own dragon by the end of this season.
I recall her saying at some point that they've been screwing since they were young.
Someone else said it first, but I can see Beric being killed and Top Knot becoming faithful to Jon. The Lord of Light has already brought him back once.
I thought he was there giving info about Bronn/Tyrion, but my wife thought he said something like "is there anything I can get you" before he left, believing he was referring to the pregnancy.
They're basically trapped in Casterly Rock for now. Unless they march back across the land or Dany sends more ships to retrieve them.
Or if she's not, she's definitely dying before giving birth. Prophecy said nothing about a 4th kid.
Those are always funny but he does sooooooooo many per episode. I always end up just reading a few and then stopping.
Yep, I was thinking the same.
Robdraggoo
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But she's already had 4 kids, the prophecy is a lie!
Nameless
Member
Who am I missing?
Season 1, black-haired baby/child with Robert that died young.
He has no claim to the throne due to being a bastard. The best he could hope for is a monarch legitimising him so he could become the boss dude of the Stormlands.
Monkeyball
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GoT is really becoming Hollywood with cliche romance and heroic scenes. Suckssssss!
ComputerBlue
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There really hasn't been any cliche romance though, actually I don't even remember the last time there was any new romance.
This season all we've had was Missandei and Grey Worm but they've been building that shit up for years now. And Jaime/Cercei a couple times but that's nothing new.
Compared to what we used to get, it's nothing.
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After the heroes have taken SOOOO many Ls in this series, seeing the fruits of all their efforts come to fruition is refreshing.
But seriously, they're very attracted to each other.
Hopefully this happens, but I don't think the show has mentioned the Stormlands for years. Maybe season 2.
Monkeyball
Banned
Danny and Jon for sure...
I think GoT is going to crumble like Lost did. ☹️
Megalosaro
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After the heroes have taken SOOOO many Ls in this series, seeing the fruits of all their efforts come to fruition is refreshing.
But seriously, they're very attracted to each other.
Isn't it true that close family members that have been separated from birth want to fuck the shit out of each other?
ComputerBlue
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Dany and Jon hasn't even happened yet. I hope it doesn't but until it does I ain't complaining.
But there's no way this is going to crumble like Lost, Lost fell apart well before the end, quantity over quality. We're in the final stretch now and it would be hard for them to fuck it up at this point, and unlike Lost and most TV shows they're intentionally doing less instead of trying to squeeze filler episodes for money so hopefully quality over quantity.