Idk, but zombie mountain is so boring! I wish that never happened. I don't even care to see the Hound fight him because he has no personality.
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Yeah I'm sure he is. They would have showed it
SurrenderDorothy
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He's probably running atop the Wall to Castle Black.
Regginator
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Well, they didn't show Stannis' death on-screen, so...
LegendofLex
Member
Well, yeah.
The Night King is clearly gonna fuck up King's Landing and make her the Night Queen, and her unborn child is going to be some unspeakable creature.
AndrewDean84xX
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If the show (and real life) have taught me anything, it's that no one is perfect and everyone has their faults and demons.
Ned was a good family man and a good friend. He likely did what he thought was right. I'm sure he's the kind of man that would say he isn't a good man.
The first scene even
But I agree with you that the political intrigue and slow burn drama was way more interesting than the all-action show we are getting now. There isn't any reason we can't have both other than it seems D&D are tired of the show and are rushing for the exits. I still love the show, but it could be better. The show is only growing in popularity though so obviously this is a minority opinion
Islands are the place to be these days.
Jest Chillin
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No. You're missing the point that if Aegon 1 is still alive when Jon is born that would mean that The Mad King still reigns and there's nothing for Lyanna to fear from Robert as Robert is just another Lord. Robert couldn't just go and murder Jon if the Targ Family still sits upon the Iron Throne.
Jon is simultaneously protected AND zero threat while The Mad King reigns and Aegon 1 lives. It's both their deaths that exposes him to danger.
super-heated plasma
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Was thinking that. Cersie confesses to Jamie its Eurons kid, and thats the straw that breaks the camels back. Jamie kills her.
Imperfected
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He honestly didn't have a personality to begin with.
He's just smarter now that he's a mindless golem, that's all.
(Though I do get what you mean: the fact that he's no longer "himself" in any measurable way has really blunted the personal impact of his feud with the Hound. That's one of the reasons I'm really disappointed they didn't just go ahead and resolve that sub-plot; I think the longer we see the Mountain durdling around as a zombo and the Hound being surprisingly smart and effective, the less interesting their showdown will actually be.)
Here's how little Eddard Targaryen is going to lose his parents. Bad ass Papa Aegon will die saving the realm from the Northern enemy, and in doing so put an end to the Night King's menace. Mama Dany will die sacrificing herself to defeat the southern threat Cersei Lannister.
Little Eddard will be named king with all remaining houses swearing fealty unconditionally due to what his parents did in service to the realm. Tyrion remains hand, and Drogon somehow manages to make it out alive, so that Eddard has some bite to whatever policies Tyrion needs him to inact. There's your bitter sweet ending, with the true son of Ice and Fire (hell it could be a daughter as well) sitting on the throne.
Little Eddard will be named king with all remaining houses swearing fealty unconditionally due to what his parents did in service to the realm. Tyrion remains hand, and Drogon somehow manages to make it out alive, so that Eddard has some bite to whatever policies Tyrion needs him to inact. There's your bitter sweet ending, with the true son of Ice and Fire (hell it could be a daughter as well) sitting on the throne.
That will be the legacy. Normalizing and legitimizing incest.
All these normies shipping aunt and nephew. Whew laddie.
SurrenderDorothy
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One Eyed Willy
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There were people here on GAF posting spoilers, but hidden in such a way that nobody would know they were spoilers until they watched the episodes. Once I saw some of EP6 getting spoiled, I went completely dark until 7 came out. :/
They showed the specific act of it though. That's different than him appearing to run away
Cersei has finally convinced me that her pregnancy is legit, but there's no way little Joffrey 2.0 lives to see the light of day.
Also now that Jon/Dany is official I think it's the beginning of the end for them. Their union will likely save the world but will end in personal tragedy for both, just like Rhaegar and Lyanna before them.
In conclusion, Jon and Dany, Night King, and Cersei will cancel each other out and pave the way for Sansa to become Queen.
Also now that Jon/Dany is official I think it's the beginning of the end for them. Their union will likely save the world but will end in personal tragedy for both, just like Rhaegar and Lyanna before them.
In conclusion, Jon and Dany, Night King, and Cersei will cancel each other out and pave the way for Sansa to become Queen.
SurrenderDorothy
Banned
Getting Robb and Talisa vibes. Seems that's why Tyrion is worried.
Was he a good family man though? He treated Jon like a bastard and then sent him off to rot at the wall. Wouldnt even give him a seat at the table. He convinced his wife he cheated on her and let her treat Jon like shit too. He sided with Robert over his family more than once including when he killed his daughters dog. He lied to his family about his dishonorable fight with the guy outside the tower. Fought a war to kill his sister's husband and then covered it up. Stole Greyjoys kid. Got himself and half his family killed, tortured etc
I started writing this as a joke but now IDK, He was kind of a dick. I'm sure there is a lot I'm forgetting.
The Artisan
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Yes Rhaegar was dead before Jon was born but still what would drive Lyanna to choose the same name as Rhaegar's other son? Still fucking stupid
Rhaegar already had an heir named Aegon and Lyanna should've been aware of that; even if Lyanna was the one to name him. And we don't know if that's the case, that's just the fans filling in the blanks again.
But Tyrion shouldn't stand for that bullshit logic. He should've been like "Fuck you, YOU killed Tommen. Don't put that shit on me."
That might have been the worst season of the show. The writing has gone completely to shit, and despite the constant character killing and explosion heavy action scenes, how much actually happened this season?
We're pretty much in the same spot we were at the start. All this season really did was sweep off a lot of side characters and Houses.
There was some decent stuff this episode, but the Winterfell plot was absolutely god awful.
We're pretty much in the same spot we were at the start. All this season really did was sweep off a lot of side characters and Houses.
There was some decent stuff this episode, but the Winterfell plot was absolutely god awful.
Vincent Alexander
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Yeah. This was the moment I decided Cersei is just about my least favorite character in fiction. Are we supposed to think she is batshit crazy? Stupid? Narrow-minded? She not only got Tommen killed, but she helped get her daughter killed as well. If Oberyn didn't go out fighting the Mountain, which wouldn't have happened if she didn't falsely accuse Tyrion, then her daughter would be alive.
I mean...if she is supposed to be annoyingly stubborn and dumb like a real person, then I guess she is a great character
How many times are they going to keep drawing from that well though? You can't have every relationship go south like that, it's highly unrealistic. Plus, Robb broke faith with a house to get in with Talisa. That's what got him killed. No promises to Freys, no plot to murder him for breaking an oath.
Unless someone shanks Jon for being a Targ and hooking up with a Targ, Tyrion's dealio seems more that they would lose focus, and that doesn't even make sense. I think it makes their drive to destroy the Night King even greater. If Jon has the North, Dany, and a baby to fight for, it would atleast stop him from playing the death wish having heroic idiot he's played for the past two seasons.
Unless someone shanks Jon for being a Targ and hooking up with a Targ, Tyrion's dealio seems more that they would lose focus, and that doesn't even make sense. I think it makes their drive to destroy the Night King even greater. If Jon has the North, Dany, and a baby to fight for, it would atleast stop him from playing the death wish having heroic idiot he's played for the past two seasons.
Albino_Yeti
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Who watches TV like this??
Nothing's even happening on screen when they're reacting like that. I was watching some clips from this bar last week. It's kind of entertaining, in a "How overdramatic can this room full of hipsters behave?" kind of way.
I'm glad someone else feels this way too. Maybe they were afraid for Tormund and/or Beric, but most of the time I feel like those front row people are wayyy hamming it up for the camera.
But eh. It's not that big of a deal, I still enjoy watching those videos.
If Qyburn hadn't mentioned it I'm not sure I could tell his personality has changed at all. The original mountain was the only good mountain
RoninChaos
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It may be both. I told my wife I thought the white walkers were going to kill a dragon and they were going to break the wall at around episode 5 after we saw the dragon light up the lannister army. That thing was like a nuke with wings. It made sense in my mind that it could also bring down the wall. I didn't read any leaks because I hate spoilers.
Now, with that said, I also think that people have thought about the end game for this series long enough that there's enough info out there that is bound to be true. People predicted John's parents for like 10 years and the show finally confirmed that. I think as the story gets more narrow then you're going to see more predictions that are right because that's how the story has to go. The end game is the white walkers and then dealing with Cersei's dumb ass. There are only so many ways this can go, so I think you'll see more predictions coming true or being closer to the mark now more than ever.
It's fire, but blue.
Who watches TV like this??
Nothing's even happening on screen when they're reacting like that. I was watching some clips from this bar last week. It's kind of entertaining, in a "How overdramatic can this room full of hipsters behave?" kind of way.
People who know they are on camera and going on youtube. They're playing up on purpose.
Every time I see people post those bar reaction videos, I notice the same people are always in the same place every week.
The Artisan
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That part was pretty unclear, I was thinking all the wildlings died there. And even if they didn't, how would they escape the zombie army?
Nahh they can't normalize that shit they gotta put a stop to it. They're the last 2 Targaryens, so as long as they don't have twins, they can't do this incest shit anymore. It's just wrong. Let them indulge in it coz they love each other but realize that they have to stop it for the generations of their family going forward.
Sleeping Lesson
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So unrealistic, huh. Real dragons could never do that.
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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...it's not like he had much of one before that.
ComputerBlue
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What do people think about Euron leaving?
At first I thought he was legitimately out.
Then after Cersei said he wasn't I figured that Cersei and him had planned, that if anything went off plan, he would leave pretending he was out.
But then I watched this HBO clip and I'm not so sure anymore.
At first I thought he was legitimately out.
Then after Cersei said he wasn't I figured that Cersei and him had planned, that if anything went off plan, he would leave pretending he was out.
But then I watched this HBO clip and I'm not so sure anymore.
She was directly responsible for both Tommen and Myrcellas deaths. In fact the latter was due to her blaming Tyrion for everything wrong in her life !
That shit was dull.
These past few seasons, every time this show doesn't flex its cgi/epic muscle, it's not all that great, but this episode in particular, nothing interesting happened.
They met, and everything went exactly as you could've predicted.
They killed LF, in the way anyone could've predicted (because his plan was particularly dumb).
And you can't really believe they would've killed Jamie like that, when they barely had the balls to take off one minor character's plot armor, during the ice siege.
So yeah, it felt like tying up loose ends, in the most obvious way possible, for about every scenario presented.
Ice dragon at the end was cool, but as i said, that's their strength, unfortunately this episode didn't have any major battle going on, and it showed their weak side.
I'm not a book reader, but it definitely feel like things have gotten way more predictable and by the numbers, these last few seasons, despite the spectacle being able to pick up the slack for it.
Character moments also haven't been particularly great in my opinion, especially given how rushed through things have been this season.
If you enjoyed it, more power to you, though.
I enjoyed the season as a whole, but when i think back, everything i enjoyed is either a big bombastic moment, or some funny quip, at best.
ShooterMcGavin
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You know, Elia Martell continues to be among the most tragic characters in this entire series. Aerys dehumanized her, Rhaegar abandoned her, and the Mountain destroyed her (and whatever legacy she had left behind).
Part of me is kind of happy Bobby "Gods I Was Strong" Baratheon smashed Rhaegar's chest in.
But alas, the things we do for love...
Part of me is kind of happy Bobby "Gods I Was Strong" Baratheon smashed Rhaegar's chest in.
But alas, the things we do for love...
soundscream
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He calls a zombie a White Walker. I'm not inclined to believe anything coming out of Euron's mouth bro.
I think both are going to die and the series will end with Jaime killing Cersei as he realizes she's a crazy bitch.
LegendofDragoonLives
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All in good jest mate
Your entire premise is that LF using Sansa =/= Sansa using LF. Both can be true. She could have easily had hid killed in season 5 but didn't. That proved to be a huge benefit since she used his need for power and Ned being grown at the Vale to get them to help vs Ramsay.
Of course as a team they are better, they're an rpg squad. You don't pick warrior everything in diablo do you, same applies here. All have their strengths and together like a pack of wolves = they're strong. I don't know if Sansa would have played LF this early on, but she certainly could have done so at any point in the future as well and just keep him at bay until then. I don't think she's some super genius, but the bar isn't high at all for Starks when it comes to intelligence or politics. She's already doing a better job leading the Winterfell group than Jon did when he was there.
Vincent Alexander
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Dumb. She wasted time not just immediately sending him ages prior, once the gold made it to the bank. It isn't even a fakeout....at least not one that makes sense to me.
ComputerBlue
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Well I think that term itself is well known.
But I mean, the actors comments in the clip have me question it, and now I'm back to thinking he might be legit out and Cersei doesn't know it yet.
Guerrillas in the Mist
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The Seven Kingdoms becomes the Federated People's Republic of Westeros under President Tormund Giantsbane
Nameless
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Dude we're talking about ice cold death fire vs a magical wall.
Vincent Alexander
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Isn't blue fire hotter than orange/red?
Tyrion probably struck a deal with Cersei involving her child becoming Dany's successor. That's why he's all "fuuuuck" with Snow and Dany hooking up, possibly conceiving. It'd make sense considering the hamfisted BUT WHAT ABOUT YOUR SUCCESSOR thing they did earlier, and the hard cut from Tyrion finding out she's pregnant to her agreeing to the truce and "joining" the war.
Nameless
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It's so cold that it's hotter. Plus whatever undead buffs