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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT2| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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No I meant that as an actor on this show, you should have the basic knowledge that the White Walkers are the dudes practicing necromancy, and the zombies are their thralls lol.
They keep name dropping this Golden Company too many times for them to not materialise. I think him wanting to marry the queen is going to overrule the self preserving part of his brain.
Jest Chillin
Member
Rhaegar had an aire named Aegon that was dead before Jon was born. Aegon is a Targaryan family name. This isn't difficult to parse. Rhaegar dead, Rhaegar's other children dead, Lyanna literally dying minutes after Jon's birth... She gives him a full Targ family name to signify his birthright.
As for fans filling in the blanks... That doesn't matter because we're not talking about anything further than how "dumb" or whatever it is that Jon's name is Aegon. And the reality is that it isn't all that dumb in Westeros, it's just annoying to viewers who find it confusing.
DarkJediKnight
Member
Who watches TV like this??
Nothing's even happening on screen when they're reacting like that. I was watching some clips from this bar last week. It's kind of entertaining, in a "How overdramatic can this room full of hipsters behave?" kind of way.
The red circles are on the wrong areas of focus.
Yay more forced drama, with something that lasts all the way to point when Jaime tells them Cersei intends to fuck them up. They better not do this shit, it's so dumb.
The blue part of a flame, yes.
I think Jon and Dany are going to double team the zombie dragon, all smiles and congratulations when they kill it during a big battle then let their guard down and one of them dies. Bran takes over Dragon duties and kills the Night King.
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
I hadn't actually thought of this, but Tyrion withholding that would be a stupid play, the show's writers would nev-
Seductivpancakes
Member
Aegon is also the name of the first Targ king. People name their kids after great people all the time. No different here.
I don't know seems very obvious "pregnancy" and heir will be a big theme next season.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Jamie die in battle, Cersei lose her child, eventually stealing Jon and Dany 's son.
Both will die in some tragic but romantic way or sacrificing kinda thing. Or one of them, the other might get back stabbed.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Cersei winning with a baby Targaryen at her sides, eventually becoming king.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Jamie die in battle, Cersei lose her child, eventually stealing Jon and Dany 's son.
Both will die in some tragic but romantic way or sacrificing kinda thing. Or one of them, the other might get back stabbed.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Cersei winning with a baby Targaryen at her sides, eventually becoming king.
Ocarina_117
Banned
Are dragon flames hot enough to melt ice beams?
ComputerBlue
Member
Oh right, I missed that part regarding WW/Wight...Good catch and point.
You're right about the Golden Company and if the WW's really can't swim, then Euron really has nothing to lose. He gets paid to ship men over from Essos, they fall and the plan fails, he can still retreat to his island.
Lister
Banned
I think Jaime should have died in this episode. His story I think has been told. I don't see where this character can go form here where he isn't a pointless third wheel, a la Jorah. Plot armor is also rising to ridiculous levels.
Not sure where they are going with Cercei. She appears to be learning to play the game at a much higher level, takign advice from her father to heart. The entire manipulaiton of Tyrion both with the double cross alongsid Euron and convincing Tyrion to lower his guard the only way she could - playing the baby card.
But then she lets Jaime go, which is very likely to result in him telling the others of her plans, so the whole scheme goes out the window. I was sure the last exchange was going to be:
Jaime: "Then go ahead, give him the order to kill me!"
Cercei: "I already have."
::Sir Gregor's sword protrudes from Jaime's chest::
:: Cuts to Bronn being surrounded by Lanister guards::
Guards: "You have been summoned".
Bronn: "Shit."
Hmmm :/
Not sure where they are going with Cercei. She appears to be learning to play the game at a much higher level, takign advice from her father to heart. The entire manipulaiton of Tyrion both with the double cross alongsid Euron and convincing Tyrion to lower his guard the only way she could - playing the baby card.
But then she lets Jaime go, which is very likely to result in him telling the others of her plans, so the whole scheme goes out the window. I was sure the last exchange was going to be:
Jaime: "Then go ahead, give him the order to kill me!"
Cercei: "I already have."
::Sir Gregor's sword protrudes from Jaime's chest::
:: Cuts to Bronn being surrounded by Lanister guards::
Guards: "You have been summoned".
Bronn: "Shit."
Hmmm :/
Nameless
Member
For his sake I hope Aejon pulled out, otherwise he might have to deal with his firstborn being his first cousin(and Dany's niece or nephew). Cersei and Jaime will also be having their own niece or nephew for the 4th time. Neither situation is quite as bad as Little Sam being Gilly's brother, but still... Gotta say I wanted better for Jon but here we are. Some things can't be undone.
"Everytime a Targaryen is born the gods flip a coin"
One of these incest babies is going to be a monster. Westeros is fucked if it's Dany and Jon's. Imagine Joffrey inheriting two dragons after his parents died.
"Everytime a Targaryen is born the gods flip a coin"
One of these incest babies is going to be a monster. Westeros is fucked if it's Dany and Jon's. Imagine Joffrey inheriting two dragons after his parents died.
Mercenaries are always completely reliable after all!
Vincent Alexander
Member
What's funny is Cersei's awful plan falls apart if a single person stayed back at King's Landing to join in their march North. Like "Hey uh....we goin' anytime soon? Oh, we aren't? K. I'll go let Dany know."
Ocarina_117
Banned
After all the shit Cersei put Jamie through, being herself and putting family first is what sent Jamie over the edge.
Shouldn't Viserion have a giant hole in his neck? The zombie bear didn't seem to be healed magically healed from the wounds that killed it, so I don't understand how Viserion isn't bellowing fire out of the side of his neck. Also, how the fuck did the Night King make him move so damn fast, and also give him a more powerful type of fire breathing? The Children of the Forest need to be brought back to life and questioned as to what the fuck they were thinking.
ComputerBlue
Member
I always though so myself but just googled out of curiosity.
But, this is magic fire since it's coming from a reanimated corpse so none of that may apply.
cpp_is_king
Member
Episode was ok, but I expected more surprising deaths from the penultimate season finale. Suppose I'm glad Littlefinger finally got the knife though, and I expect Arya to take his face for next season.
Other predictions for next season:
1. Turns out Danerys actually *can* have children, they only said she couldn't because being a dragon descendant, she can only be impregnated by another dragon descendant - such as Aegon Targeryen...... Nevermind she's his uncle, that's just how it works in the dragon bloodline, and is completely normal.
2. Arya lands the killing blow on Cersei. They've hinted at this for so long now it almost has to come true.
3. Hound vs. Mountain finally happens in all its glory. And it had better be glorious as all hell, given how long we've waited.
Other predictions for next season:
1. Turns out Danerys actually *can* have children, they only said she couldn't because being a dragon descendant, she can only be impregnated by another dragon descendant - such as Aegon Targeryen...... Nevermind she's his uncle, that's just how it works in the dragon bloodline, and is completely normal.
2. Arya lands the killing blow on Cersei. They've hinted at this for so long now it almost has to come true.
3. Hound vs. Mountain finally happens in all its glory. And it had better be glorious as all hell, given how long we've waited.
Pagusas
Elden Member
I think her letting him go is the final bit of humanity/weakness in her. She couldnt bring her self to do it and he called her bluff. I take it as showing us she still has a little bit of love left inside her, and that was probably the last time we will see her do anything "nice" again.
He saw a Wight, I think that was pretty convincing for him lol
Vincent Alexander
Member
This was the one moment of Cersei I really liked this season.
The purpose of not sacking King's Landing was laid out in several scenes by Tyrion and the Spider. There is hope within Dany to claim the throne by means other than strength and carnage. They have a vision of her breaking the cycle and sowing a better future for Westeros. An assault is easy, but everyone will merely view her as yet another conqueror demanding to bend the knee(regardless of how much better her rule may actually be). This is imperative for her to avoid if she wishes to be taken seriously as the true ruler.
On the Arya bit. She didn't abandon her humanity to become faceless really(she just wanted its secrets for her revenge list), doesn't at all surprise me that she chose curiosity of hope in Winterfell and delayed her mission. She's been alone and surviving for a long time, she's still Arya Stark, her mission is fully Arya's, and if her home is once again a haven for her, you better believe she will take a pause and run back to confirm.
I'll agree with you that this season had PLENTY of clumsy moments though, and thus it is spiraling and rushing to some bulletpoint conclusion outline in a somewhat scattered and occasionally illogical way.
She was impregnated by Drogo and would have more than likely delivered a healthy child if not for the witch. Come on guys, this isn't some deeply hidden piece of information lol.
I don't think it's dumb. It makes sense to me, for all involved.
Pagusas
Elden Member
He saw the undead and finally, after everything, realized this whole thing is bigger than him and his family, that if they dont work together now family and children dont mean a damn thing.
Also pretty sure he fully realized "I'm the bad guy".
TimeEffect
Member
Any chance Tyrion knows of Jon's ancestry?
Yeah the witch straight up killed the child as a revenge against them. Or he could've been used as a sacrifice for healing Drogo (but then the death of his horse would've been for nothing I guess)
Nah I don't think so.
You got it, others didn't. Well done.
Ocarina_117
Banned
Ima call bs if Dany gets preggers. She was shagging Daario for years.
Unless we got some bad news for Daario.
Unless we got some bad news for Daario.
How very perceptive of you. You'll also notice that they appear in supplementary videos hosted by the bar owner where they talk about the show, and introduce themselves as friends of the bar owner and regular patrons. They even jokingly refer to themselves by the nicknames they've been given in YouTube comments.
No chance.
It is 100% stupid on Tyrion to make a deal like that. First of all there's the bit where yet again he's going out of his way to trust a woman he knows is a conniving, backstabbing, lying shit head. Like how many times in a single season are going to fuck things up just so you could bend over backwards for the woman who tried on multiple occasions to kill you?
Secondly, Tyrion is in no position to be offering Cersei that sort of deal, and on top of that, hiding it from his queen. He cannot decide for Dany who her successor is. Even Catlyn Stark with all her idiotic tendencies, still came back to Robb to have him make that final decision. Tyrion deciding that for Dany is so out of character, and would make him the single dumbest character this show has ever had.
And finally, it's all a moot point the moment Jaime shows up with no army.
MadLaughter
Member
-Seeing the other side face to face and they act generally reasonable, including Tyrion
-Seeing the undead for the first time
-Admonished by Brienne
-Increasingly frustrated about everything Euron-related
-"I always knew you were the stupidest Lannister"
-Being left out of the loop on all of Cersei's plans
MickeyPhree
Member
This all sets up the season 8 leaks pretty perfectly.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
Something something magic something Targaryen something something The Prince that was Promised.
I think Jamie will be a major hero in the campaign against the Night King. To your question, his untold story would be about redemption and honor. I even think the writers may have his character earn a better version of king slayer. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility for Jamie to be the character that lands the killing blow on the Night King, or Jamie and Brienne.
Either way, I think there's more to his story. I believe his King's Guard bio is about to get a lot more impressive.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Jesus christ. Delete this garbage please.
MickeyPhree
Member
Oh grow up.
I think that was more for the "where did her second dragon go" crowd from the past week lol. Qyburn knew that Dany wasn't in their party, and he also knew that she hadn't been spotted for awhile. I'm quite confident he would have sooner or later gotten information that told him there's only two dragons flying around.
TheRagnCajun
Member
I'm wondering why an essos mercenary company complete with war elephants would travel to westeros at the very start of winter knowing: the dothraki hordes are there, dragons are there, the unsullied are there, it's winter and they are going to have to fight in winter, and there can't possibly be enough food to feed everyone, it's going to be difficult to get back home, and they may learn that the north wall has fallen to an undead army marching south. No amount of money could possibly convince them to take those odds.
I know, Jon (was it?) literally says "she may not have been the most reliable of sources" about the witch.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
He's probably my favorite actor on the show. Even when he's given bad material to work with, I think he really brings out the best in it. Incredible actor.
Pagusas
Elden Member
Maybe it takes Targaryen sperm to get into a Targaryen egg?