He probably also watches them poop.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT2| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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He probably also watches them poop.
Same reason a skeleton without muscles can move.
How can the dead walk when they have no connective tissue?
I have not finished the entire read but skipped to number 1 anyways. Was not surprised.
Vox article.
Game of Thrones season 7: each character's strategy, ranked by political science.
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One of my favorite shot of the episodes. Right along with snow falling on to Jaime's gloves as he puts it on his gold hand.
All the "why" questions for Dany have one answer to them, Tyrion. Why did she not burn down the Red Keep that sits on an isolated cliff away from the city? Tyrion. Why did she not use her dragons to hunt down and destroy Euron's fleet? Tyrion. I'm seriously losing faith in him.
LMAO!
The necromantic magic serves as connective tissue.
Consider, if the necromantic magic is also what makes Viserion fly, how come the NK can't just make himself fly?
Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
To be honest, I was thinking the same thing. I know it's fiction, but this series doesn't do a great job of following its own internal logic.The necromantic magic serves as connective tissue.
Consider, if the necromantic magic is also what makes Viserion fly, how come the NK can't just make himself fly?
IIRC the reason Gilly would have had the book was that Sam finished inscribing it.
Scorpion + Dragonglass bolt?
The Artisan
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No I know that he was using blue fire and I know blue fire is hotter than yellow fire. My point is, with the NKing possessing the hotter fire, he could (accidentally) destroy his own army before the other dragons could.
Yeah I'll take Jon Targaryen any day. Although I still hope Dany calls Jon by his birth name like Vegeta calls Goku Kakarot.
exactly...
How is Jon being in Dorne a confirmation of Aegon 1 being dead? The only confirmation we got from that scene was that Rhaegar was dead. For all we know, Aegon & Rhaela were murdered after he was.
I'm not saying Lyanna shouldn't have given Jon a Targaryen style name, I'm saying why the fuck give him the same exact name that Rhaegar's other son, Jon's half brother, already has? She should have named him Jaehaerys.
yeah, that's true. But we don't know what the NKing is really thinking, though.
gross
Bran is into all the kinky shit now
Killing Tywin off was GRRM's biggest mistake IMO.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
I'm telling you all.
Those swords are getting smelted down and turned into bolts to take that dragon down
I understand that and I agree.
My original argument was that that White Walkers magic had enhanced the dragon and my proof of that was the blue flames.
Lmao
you smart
lastplayed
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The necromantic magic serves as connective tissue.
Consider, if the necromantic magic is also what makes Viserion fly, how come the NK can't just make himself fly?
The necromantic magic also makes zombies and skeletons see... maybe the NK can use that on anything?
The Artisan
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Why was Jorah upset about Dany not riding her dragon north? Is it because he knows and is upset about what would happen if Jon and Dany are alone together?
One thing about Viserion's eye though, at the end of the last episode, his eye looked sentient; like the White Walker's eyes; it didn't look like just a bright blue hue, like the zombies' eyes and the zombie polar bear from earlier in the episode.
ah, I see. Yeah for sure the NKing's magical abilities for sure could play a role in all this. I was thinking he was breathing blue fire because their eyes are blue, and blue fire is conveniently hotter than yellow.
One thing about Viserion's eye though, at the end of the last episode, his eye looked sentient; like the White Walker's eyes; it didn't look like just a bright blue hue, like the zombies' eyes and the zombie polar bear from earlier in the episode.
Bran: Man, what is taking cousin Aegon so long to get back? I've got important news to tel him. I know, I'll warg a raven and see what he's up to.
*Raven lands on Dany's ship port hole*
What is he doing in Dany's bed? *Hears Targeryen sex noises* Oh...
*Observes... observes... ... ... ... ... observes...*
*Raven lands on Dany's ship port hole*
What is he doing in Dany's bed? *Hears Targeryen sex noises* Oh...
*Observes... observes... ... ... ... ... observes...*
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
He made a White Walker from a dragon. This is why he had to touch it and not just lift his arms like in Hardhome. And these things are living creatures of some kind unlike wights if that baby is any indication. i am assuming it grows up into an adult but you never know.. NK might have a contingent of infant WWs to drop into cities.
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And Qyburn going to be applying for a grant asap to puzzle out the mysteries of the undead. He might even go against Cersei if she impedes his studies into this.
I think he would have called a truce. He was wise enough to know that anything less would put his house at terrible risk.
He made a White Walker from a dragon. This is why he had to touch it and not just lift his arms like in Hardhome. And these things are living creatures of some kind unlike wights if that baby is any indication. i am assuming it grows up into an adult but you never know.. NK might have a contingent of infant WWs to drop into cities.
Unlike th baby though the dragon first died. I don't think that dragon is a White Walker, but you are right in that he did his personal touch thingy. So maybe something that isn't a White Walker (not dead but turned, think warewolf), but also a bit more than a mindless thrall.
Yep. See even I missed that those were the scrolls he was transcribing. He actually wrote it and explained it to Gilly. He should absolutely be able to connect the dots.
I figured it all out. Bran is the nk and is coming to settle this.
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LegendofDragoonLives
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How the fuck is Dorne "dead"? They lost 4 people, not the entire army that is over there. On top of that, Oberyn tha boss had like 50 kids (9) in total since he couldn't stop having sex with every woman in every continent in the world, so they had leaders if need be. Why is the show writers and tv writers putting them out as "dead" just because Oberyn's wife and 3/9 girls are dead?
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Hmm.. maybe one day we'll find out for sure.
Dany didn't like the content so she requested a refund for the Dorne DLC.
The shows wants everybody to forget about Dorne. No matter how little sense the exist from the show makes.
It's over and Do
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Sorry :/ I am just half-assing it today. It's been a long Monday.
Still, something doesn't quite fit; I assume the White Walkers are an extension of the Night King's powers and thats why he could raise the dead in Hardhome. Killed by something he created, thus they would become part of his army. But if thats the case, he killed the Dragon himself; why go through all that trouble with the chains? Would be cooler if he would have raised his arms and Viscerion would rise up from the ice.
Oh Well, budget I guess?
Oh Well, budget I guess?
Interesting that you mention that, because what Cersei is doing with the wights is exactly what Tywin did in Robert's Rebellion... of course the Wights are less a generic army and more an existential threat. This is a good example of Cersei emulating Tywin, but removing his wisdom and perspective and jacking up cunning and power hungry-ness.
She'll do whatever it takes to not have to feel responsibility or grief. Lena Headey said in an interview that it's totally a coping mechanism for her, she doesn't want to dwell on her mistakes, so she pushes them on other people. The problem with the "if Tywin hadn't died" logic is that if you follow it for long enough, you can still blame her for it since she pushed for Tyrion's trial and conviction more than anyone.
I wonder if the events in this last episode are some of the events that GRRM told them about in private. The writers did say that GRRM gave them some of the "dots", but that the showrunners would write their own "lines" to connect those dots.
The Artisan
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there's something else about Jaime flipping that I don't understand.
the first time he sees the zombie, he's horrified but not on board to work with Jon & Dany, because Cersei isn't.
then when Cersei comes back the Dragon Pit she says she'll help and Jaime believes him, later we see him giving his men commands about going north, but Cersei tells him she was lying, and then Jaime tries to argue about the zombie and the horror. All of a sudden then, but he wasn't arguing about it at first
the first time he sees the zombie, he's horrified but not on board to work with Jon & Dany, because Cersei isn't.
then when Cersei comes back the Dragon Pit she says she'll help and Jaime believes him, later we see him giving his men commands about going north, but Cersei tells him she was lying, and then Jaime tries to argue about the zombie and the horror. All of a sudden then, but he wasn't arguing about it at first
he goes on his honour logic.
The Artisan
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this is a really good point, i haven't thought of this. the only reason we couldn't hear Lyanna say it last season is coz they didn't want the audience to know. but Bran was there, presumably he heard it...
The Artisan
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is that what he started with? i think the first thing he says was "look, zombies are real so this is about living vs. dead"
Vincent Alexander
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I think he didn't hear it, as silly as it might seem. He was "physically" there just as we all were, and heard just as well as the rest of us. You think he would rewind that shit and get closer, but iunno.
If I remember right, when Tyrion shows up, Jamie had just been kicked out of Cersei's room for arguing against her that they should ally up.
Jest Chillin
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Because the timeline of events is Robert kills Rhaegar > Sack of Kings Landing > Ned finds Lyanna.
From last season:
https://youtu.be/xdGEqdanLWA
Young Ned Stark to Sir Arthur Dayne outside the Tower said:
So Lyanna is still alive and hasn't yet given birth. The Mad King is dead which happens right after he lets Tywin into Kings Landing thinking Tywin is an ally. And as soon as The Lannisters enter Kings Landing they sack the city and Tywin orders the Targaryens all killed. Ned shows up to Kings Landing during the sack and is disgusted by it. Robert shows up sometime later. They have a falling out. Sometime after that Ned arrives at the tower and finds his sister. Still later, after she's dead, Ned and Robert patch up their friendship over shared grief of her death.
Jest Chillin
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Brienne got through to him. He only rejects her logic initially so as not to defy Cersei in public.
ComputerBlue
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He did hear it.
But he assumed that he was born out of wedlock, so he would have still been called Sand, it wasn't until Sam pointed him towards the wedding that the pieces came together.
The Artisan
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oh yeah there's something else I've been wondering - Cersei reveals to Jaime that Euron was lying about running away; rather they made a plan. Now, here's the thing...did Cersei expect the zombie to be real and all and have Euron make this plan, or did she talk to him after he left to make the plan? It kinda lessens the whole dragon pit scene if the Lannisters & Greyjoys were just prepared for the "horror" I guess.
It's the exact same clip they play in this episode though. I suppose we're just gonna have to roll with silly.
okay, you are right about the timeline. But I still think it's fucking stupid that Lyanna their child the same name that her husband already had. And I don't care if there is an in-universe explanation for it, because that would just be a weak point in the universe in my opinion. Jon should've been named Jaehaerys.
well she should, like Vegeta calls Goku Kakarot. Everybody else doesn't have to do it; Dany can be the only one.
The Artisan
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He didn't mention wanting to go north to Tyrion, though. He didn't talk about the zombie or the winter war at all. But yeah, I suppose you're right.
Doesn't he first say he's "Jon Sand" before Sam tells him that he's a legitimate born child?
edit: sorry for double post
ComputerBlue
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https://youtu.be/CbcdKZHlexo?t=141
Nope, he just says he needs to talk to Jon, to tell him the truth that he's a Sand and not a Snow and that he's my aunts son.
Anyone born out of wedlock in the 7 kingdoms is considered a bastard.
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Bastardy
The Artisan
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exactly; Bran says "his last name isn't Snow, it's Sand." - but if he heard Lyanna right the first time, wouldn't he have heard her say "Aegon Targaryen"?