Pankratous
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Anyone else think Dany will die in a "It's me... your mother... Viserion... please..." moment?
Then Viserion just nukes her.
Then Viserion just nukes her.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT2| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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Only if it's mirrored by a Cersei moment with Wight Walker baby Lannister....
no, too anime
clawing its way out Alien John Hurt style?
It would be quite amusing if Dany gets a death like that assistant lady in Jurassic World. The outrage would be entertaining.
soundscream
Member
Gotta get through the scales. Normal arrows cant get through. Need another scorpion or Night King ice javlen.
Seductivpancakes
Member
Bronn didn't leave with Jaime. I bet Cersei gonna have him killed for trying to flee last minute when the shit is hitting the fan.
That would be awesome. He's one of the coolest characters ever.
Bronn would've totally left with him, he likes to talk the talk but dude is a big softy that likes Tyrion and Jaime a bunch.
show me your skeleton
Member
i think it's a shame that the series/story moved away from the grey morality of warring kingdoms to the evil big bad of the white walkers. granted it was always designed that way but still, something is lost i feel.
Did it move away though? The biggest dynamic in the story right now is how the warring factions maneuver around each other after accepting that such a threat is real. I don't think there was ever much Grey morality though. Starks good, Lannisters bad. What has changed?
Steiner_Zi
Member
I think the idea that all of this stuff is just happening off screen. They must have spent days/weeks sailing from Eastwatch to King's Landing so plenty of time to talk about things.
SlipperyFishes
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It's not. Cercei is still playing that game alone
show me your skeleton
Member
you're very right, the threat of cersei is still there. i think 'grey morality' is incorrect, what i really meant is enemies with reasoning behind what they do, some of it understandable.
the night king, by design, has none of that.
as an aside, did i hear the hound tell the mountain that someone else is to kill him? any ideas who?
theignoramus
Member
The show needs to explain why Night King wants to wipe out humanity. We already got the generic explanation for it (he was created to kill men), but it rings pretty hollow.
ReplacementPelican
Member
I dunno. Did the battle against the Lannisters not feel 'grey'? They definitely focused on the horror of the thing more than 'fuck yeah, Dragons', it was haunting.
Also, I think its as grey as its ever been really. Its not exactly like Robb or the Tyrells were these massive villains because people like Joffrey were so cartoonishly awful that you'd never root for them anyway.
But I've always had big reservations about Dany so maybe that's making me see it as more grey than some.
My only issue is that the Night King is still undeveloped, intentional as it is, the idea that he and the White Walkers are these end-game bosses who are just pure evil and want to kill everything doesn't sit right with my just yet.
soundscream
Member
Too late
Burn this!
show me your skeleton
Member
yeah i was wrong with my initial description, but this is my main issue. we went from having motives and reasoning behind our villians, even with jeoffrey, to having a supernatural big baddy that just exists to destroy.
Frostt
Member
So i think the beginning of the next season is that Jamie arrives alone at Winterfell and tells Jon that Cercei bettayed them, and at the same time Beric and Tormund tells them that the wall is broken and they have a undead dragon. Then Tryrion will say were fucked once again. Even more than before. Cant wait!!!
Greigor The Fellhand
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I dont know how to feel about the show atm. I feel as though the white walkers have lost there sense of mystique, and they have jsut devolved into mindless generic bad guys.
I feel like most of this season was exposition and characters basically talking in the 4th
I feel like most of this season was exposition and characters basically talking in the 4th
Season 8 will begin with Bronn catching up to Jamie on the road. "You fucker.. I told you I was the only one allowed to kill you."
Did you watch the episode?
RustyNails
Member
Because it was a bluff and Jaime called it. Cersei coached Mountain to just draw sword on her command (not swing it) to scare Jaime.
Someone explain to my dumb ass how Jon is more of an heir to the Iron Throne than Daenerys is? Shouldn't that title go directly to the kids of Aerys before the grandkids? Is it simply because he's a man?
Also that final scene with Littlefinger was the best. Loved seeing him begged for his life after 7 seasons of scheming and treachery.
Also that final scene with Littlefinger was the best. Loved seeing him begged for his life after 7 seasons of scheming and treachery.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Too late
We deserve this
Chuckie
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HandsomeCharles
Member
I saw the final episode yesterday in a cinema. It was pretty cool to watch it with an audience of +/- 1000, cheering shouting and applauding at certain scenes.
It is going to be a dificult long wait for the next season..
I can't imagine anything worse tbh... Glad you enjoyed it though.
HandsomeCharles
Member
(Oops, apologies for double)
Jon's father was the mad king's eldest son. The throne would pass to he eldest son and then his children before it would pass to any other children of the mad King.
The firstborn son is the heir, so Rhaegar. And his heir is Jon. For example, Viserys could never have been king as long as Rhaegar had kids.
CrazyShady
Member
I thought it was the actor for Viserys at first glance
I'm still confused as to what littlefinger was actually trying to achieve with the Winterfell plot. If Sansa gets rid of Arya what happens then? He is already leader of the vale with an army. I still can't buy he didn't figure out he was being played either. The whole bullshit plot was beneath him.
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Deleted member 231381
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Game of Thrones uses agnatic-cognatic primogeniture. The eldest son is the preferred heir, and the eldest son's children would be preferred to any of the eldest son's younger brothers - it doesn't loop back to the younger brothers until it has been through the entirety of the eldest son's line. A daughter is ranked lower than all her brothers.
So:
1.
_2.
___3. Aegon (Jon)
_4.
_5. Danaerys
SiegfriedFM
Member
I think stopping the fleet will be Theon's redemption (and death). He has no other purpose that can be resolved.
He wouldnt be trusted amongst all the schemers if he didnt. Jon is right, when the Starks speak, words mean something.
Ned survives still to this day, his honour and duty protected Aegon Tygarian (Jon). Jon follows Ned teaching in everything he does and st the main mover for the great war, he'll end up the saviour of the living most likely.
Ned done the right thing.
theignoramus
Member
I've been rewatching older Thrones episodes and Robb Stark might be the stupidest protagonist in the show. His stupidity doesn't excuse the evil that was done to him, but he is really really fucking dumb, even for a Stark.
I don't think it'll matter as Jon will continue to not want the power or control, same as always.
theignoramus
Member
I thought it was poor form of Eddard Stark to not tell his hateful wife that Jon Snow (who she wished death and disease upon) wasn't his illegitimate love child. He could've saved that boy's childhood from Catelyn Stark.
Pankratous
Member
Too much risk of letting anyone know. Anyone. Take that shit to the grave.