Vincent Alexander
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I never realized you can see Ned speaking to himself when he is about to get beheaded. Not sure why it matters, but I really like it. I assume he is saying a prayer.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT2| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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Dunno. I think this is a lot fuzz about nothing. Its not like its Cercei/Jaimie level of gross.
LegendofDragoonLives
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No it isn't. Both cases could have been situations where they can be kept as captives, esp the young Tarly. The difference between those scenarios is having big fucking dragons to intimidate the armies with fear one side, and the other not having dragons. It's been Danny's story for most of the series. If there's problem, just pull out 3 headed blue eyes white dragon for the win. That's why I didn't feel bad at all for the dragon getting rekt by the NK.
She's the only character that has had a stupid.. sorry three stupid strong Trump cards whenever she has had a problem while nobody else did. Hopefully she dies next season. Saying that, my man Robb was a dumbass.
Was it? I thought it was one of Bolton's men.
Nah, Karstark was the lord who killed the Lannister wards against Robb's orders and who was subsequently put to death for defiance.
Jaime's hand was cut off by Roose's man, Locke (spelling?).
Lord Bolton's right hand took Jamie's right hand
Peter Ian Staker
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In the GOT universe:
First cousins: OK
Aunt to nephew: No go
Makes sense as aunt to nephew is much closer in DNA and so it is more likely to have children with genetic defects.
Twins is like mastrubating and DNA copy paste
show me your skeleton
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he absolutely puts on a strong welsh accent in the later seasons, which isn't the actor's natural accent. has anyone commented on this change at all?
LegendofDragoonLives
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The only reason is he is the guy that says "always keep your enemies confused so they never know what you want". So the idea I think was to always have different personalities, so no one can figure him out.
Fuck that episode for spawning the whole "reactions" genre in YouTube.
LMAO
Aunt/nephew is waaaaaaaaay worse than cousin incest bro.
Man you nuts would win the gold in mental gymnastics, with how far you guys go to justify this creepy hookup.
Also
Seductivpancakes
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Night King doesn't have plot armor tho. He's going to lose before the series is over.
Did YT reactions really start because of this?
Dirtyshubb
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I really do find this whole discussion about the implications of them being related to be vastly overblown.
While yes from a genetic standpoint there are issues with related people having children, the real issue is that incestuous relationships nearly always involve some Form of power discrepancy between the two parties that is normally started with grooming.
These two people have never met until they are in their twenties, never grew up as siblings or as a symbol of authority to each other so the fact they are related really isn't an issue.
While there is still the risk of genetic problems with any potential children, from a relationship standpoint they really shouldn't have any issues other than it being a bit weird at first.
Me and the wife have spoken about this idea before (probably from (movie spoiler)
but if one day we found out we were adopted and actually related, it would be weird but ultimately we love each other and grew to know each other as adults and started as strangers so we would still be together.
While yes from a genetic standpoint there are issues with related people having children, the real issue is that incestuous relationships nearly always involve some Form of power discrepancy between the two parties that is normally started with grooming.
These two people have never met until they are in their twenties, never grew up as siblings or as a symbol of authority to each other so the fact they are related really isn't an issue.
While there is still the risk of genetic problems with any potential children, from a relationship standpoint they really shouldn't have any issues other than it being a bit weird at first.
Me and the wife have spoken about this idea before (probably from (movie spoiler)
oldboy
Aunt/nephew is waaaaaaaaay worse than cousin incest bro.
Man you nuts would win the gold in mental gymnastics, with how far you guys go to justify this creepy hookup.
Also
the Alliance has killed like 3 or 4 white walkers
that chart is a lie
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The incest is like the least problematic part of Dany/Jon.
What's the most?
soundscream
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soundscream
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Line of succession. Danny would shrug that incest off, but come for her throne......
One Eyed Willy
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fucking lol
Jon's not gunna come for her throne. He wants no part in being king. When he finds out, it's not like he's gunna say "well I hate the idea of being king, and I chose you for my queen, but because of who I am, I will fight you for the crown!"
soundscream
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Prepare to be disappointed, that is part of the reason GRRM signed off on the adaptation, D&D got that part right when asked about Jons lineage.
ComputerBlue
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What do you mean the books will do it better? The R+L=J theory was around years before the show was and is what GRRM intended all along.
It is what it is.
MMBosstones86
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I have bad news for you....
Pretty sure it's cannon. It's been a slow reveal since the beginning of the show.
soundscream
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Plus Aegon the conqueror was married to his 2 sisters. Incest is part of the fabric of GOT.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The fact that Jon's acting a fool to gain Dany's favor 4 episodes after he meets her. Also Dany literally flying thousands of miles just to save Jon, who she had met 3 episodes prior, and then non-subtly implying she would have his babies if she could. The most salient reason for them getting together is that the actors are hot.
Are you referring to Jon going down to steal a wight? That wasn't even his plan and he didn't do that for her. He felt like that was their best chance at beating the WW and saving everyone. Do you think he wouldn't have done it if she weren't involved? Danny flew down to save the group and get the wight. It wasn't just about Jon (she left his ass behind actually). They felt like they needed it.. it was the entire mission.
A good reason they should get together is because they work well. Even LF could understand the logic. They share the same viewpoints and desires (to make the world better), especially since Jon doesn't want the throne. They're also much more powerful together, though they didn't scheme this as LF would have.
It's not because they're "hot" (everyone is attractive on this show, for the most part). It makes sense. Think about it
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Given Robert's obsession with her, I assume it wouldn't have mattered.
Dirtyshubb
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Never seen it, will have to read up on it.
What's wrong with that
The Greek Freak
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Also the rebellion was actually due to the mad King murdering Ned's father and brother and then demanding Ned's Robert's heads be sent to him from the Vale.
Dirtyshubb
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Some people have been blaming the show runners for not liking the story and think they have made stuff up and the books will be different and better.
Even though Martin would have approved everything that has happened.
Those freebies are worth $50? Way to turn me off the game.
Why do people keep pretending that Jon snow would care at all about the throne? His entire character has been established to not care about bloodlines or ruling, which has been reinforced since the very first episode when he tells benjin he doesn't care about any if that to this latest one where he tells theon bloodlines don't matter and telling davoos he never wanted to lead the nightwatch or be king if the north. This is such a non issue.
If they write this into a prolonged conflict this show will be dead to me. It would be everything that's the polar opposite about what we know about Jon as a character.
I imagine when this news breaks, dany will be concerned and Jon at the end of the episode will tell her the throne is here and he believes in her. It would reestablish his commitment to her as queen and be a grand romantic gesture that will strengthen their relationship. Anything less than that will be dragging on to long. Jon should think about this for all of .5 seconds before coming to the above conclusion.
Martin stopped watching the show and has published sections if his book to juxtapose the new material the writers have introduced while clearly distinguishing what's happening on the show vs in his books. I don't think we can say this was the definitive direction he's going.
You do realise that Jon was at Dragonstone for over a month right? Like the episodes don't go from one day to another. So just because we don't see it happening in the background doesn't mean it isn't happening. Do people get tripped up when characters like Arya leave a place like Braavos and is in Westeros the next episode? "What?! Why is she not on a boat traveling for the next 4 episodes?!' Sure I suppose we could spend the entire 7 episodes showing nothing but Jon and Dany going on dates, having romantic alone times, etc. But no one has time for that.
I mean while not a huge issue for me, there is a legitimate gripe with the pacing and travel in this show. I wouldn't blame anyone for not knowing how long Jon was there for. They did a bad job of establishing time this season.