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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT2| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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Oh, you're dat boi too? Wadup?
Speaking of GRRM, I saw this thing at the mall today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzuEit85CGY
I was tempted to buy it.
They also had a Longclaw replica, which is pretty badass but $250 without the scabbard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzuEit85CGY
I was tempted to buy it.
They also had a Longclaw replica, which is pretty badass but $250 without the scabbard.
Imperfected
Member
I mean, Jon's basically been anointed by God himself as the Dude Who Will Survive. As much as I'd love for them to subvert that whole dumb trope and just say, "Woops, turns out prophecies are bullshit and the Lord of Light is kind of a half-assed bitch god", I also know there's like no chance of it happening.
Him and Dany have their tickets punched, the question of where they end up isn't even particularly interesting. It's more a matter of, "What sort of blasted hellscape do they end up lording over?"
Jon's living on borrowed time, no way he's surviving the series. He dies in the finale for sure.
Yeah, I know. Just being silly and wishful thinking, because at the moment, things are feeling rather 'safe', which is unfortunate.
Why thank you, Gun. I think my theory is rather engrossing as well.
i don't agree, i think dany is gonna die in the seris and jon's gonna be the one who rules it all in the end
don't agree? well let me ask you this
dany wants the iron throne. jon doesn't. who's gonna get it.
Yeah, and the entire world believes Ned killed him mono a mono. Ned allowed his honour to be slightly tarnished by letting people believe he cheated on Catlyn. But then he significantly boosted his standing at the prestigious fighter's club by not correcting all the people that thought he bested Ser Arthur Dayne. So it's a wash lol.
I like to believe Ned was actually horrible at fighting, but everyone thought he was the best since he "beat" Dayne, so anything someone made him fight, he'd be all:
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Yeah wtf? Almost the entire fight hes defending against at least 2 and at a couple points he fends off all 4 at once (the last time is before he starts dispatching them after his dual wield sword twirl).
I like to believe Ned was actually horrible at fighting, but everyone thought he was the best since he "beat" Dayne, so anything someone made him fight, he'd be all:
he did pretty good against jamie for a"old" man
Well, he wasn't going to rat out Reed who just saved his life and helped him recover his sister, and he certainly wasn't going to say it was him and be known as the guy who stabbed Dayne da gawd in the back.
My guess is he left it ambiguous as to just who exactly struck the killing blow. So it was more a lie of omission on his part and people just imagined what they wanted about the story.
He definitely wasn't extraordinarily good but he still managed to hold his own against Dayne for a bit, as well as Jaime.
Imperfected
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They don't really make it clear in the show how much Ned did or didn't talk up the events. I would guess he probably tried to avoid saying too much about it, which is why he doesn't have literally everyone in the world gunning for him every time they have a tournament.
Plus there's the details of him surviving a whole war that encompassed many battles, several battles which he lead, and he did also train along side Robbert who was no slouch in his prime.
Bran did say he heard it hundreds of times but I would bet my left nut Ned never actually told him that story. Ned doesn't seem like the type of person to brag about killing someone, so it was probably other people hyping up that battle and Ned just not saying anything about it to protect Lyanna, Jon and Reed.
It was their maester's job to tell him about past events, and I believe Bran actually said "Father never talked about him." In the flashbacks.
Edit: Nope the line is "Father said he was the best swodsman he ever saw." Still it kinda implies that he never explained how he beat such a superior swordsman.
My impression is that the show paints the entire Tower of Joy part of Ned's life as something he would never talk about to anyone no matter how close they were to him, out of honor and maybe a bit of shame?
She's mad because he didn't punish Bronn for sneaking in the enemy, not just any enemy too but the person she thought killed Joffrey, and that Jaime didn't cut down Tyrion where he stood, and also that he gave Olenna a relatively painless, dignified death.
I mean he's basically undermining her authority at every turn, and you know how she feels about that.
I mean he's basically undermining her authority at every turn, and you know how she feels about that.
They kinda glossed over the fact Tyrion saw Jaime charge at a dragon and drown seconds later, when they meet to discuss bringing a white walker they only talked about their Tywin.
Tyrion isn't a dumbass. He knows the rules in Game of Thrones. Bronne saved Jaime by pushing him off, and there were no bodies so they both survived.
Little Old Man
Member
Plus can Dany have kids or not? If she can't then her line is in trouble unless Jon survives to carry on the line.
Napoleonthechimp
Member
Bronn is indeed alive. All this talk of this or that being a better fighter but most of those are dead. Fancy skills don't mean much when your skull is a million pieces.
No. She's sterile.
Monkeyball
Banned
I thought Jaime and Bronn getting out of the water all out of breath at the start was straight out of a Charlie Chaplin movie.
True but it kinda felt odd, like that battle never happened. Expected at least a mention.
Little Old Man
Member
Yeah then surely Jon will make it long enough to have kids with someone if GRRM intends the Targ line to survive post story.
I would kind of like matters to end like S5 of The Wire
the people are different, but the city is ultimately the same. Times are different, but the same threads run deep. The game carries on all the same. Despite Dany intending to break the wheel.
Imperfected
Member
Wasn't Daenerys sterilized by the witch's curse, or am I mis-remembering that?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Dany is magically sterile so she could theoretically become magically fertile but it hasn't been addressed in years so I don't know why they would do it.
It's heavenly implied that could be the case.
Imperfected
Member
Yeah, I assume Melissandre could fix Dany's problem by stripping naked and gyrating around on top of her for a few minutes, but unfortunately she has sworn to use her powers only to annoy.
Would annoy Jon.
yeah jon isn't going to put up with that shit
-ImaginaryInsider
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She's supposedly sterile, but I believe it's tied to magic, possibly even to her dragons.
I don't think that's the word Jon would use in such a scenario...
Patrick Bateman
Member
Isn't she like early 20s max?
I thought she was a teen when she had her first child?!?
in books, probabyl? but in the show she's clearly late 30's/
According to the wiki she's 22
soundscream
Member
The story is like 26 years after the wedding at this point.
well in that case the lady is ripe for many years to come
SlipperyFishes
Banned
In story? Probably about as many years as IRL. Gotta explain that age growth spurt for the kids.
Sam says about Bran in this episode "I let him through the wall years ago". It's easily been 4-5 years since season 1 in-universe. But I don't think they have any interest in nailing down an exact timeframe, just that it's been a long time. I mean considering all the travel that's happened in this season it's probably already been about a year of actual time happening in this season.
newtypepilot
Member
just saw a PSA thread on reddit.
Apparently, HBO Spain leaked episode 6 for an hour and the pirated copies are being circulated. Somebody's gonna get sacrificed to the lord of light.....
time to avoid social media...sigh
Apparently, HBO Spain leaked episode 6 for an hour and the pirated copies are being circulated. Somebody's gonna get sacrificed to the lord of light.....
time to avoid social media...sigh