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[Sho_Nuff82]

Thanks. I think I got lost as to why they were at Harrenhal (the mountain?), and I don't remember any scene stating why they left until they mentioned that it's out of the way and how "the death of my grandfather isn't blablabla". When I saw that I thought "When did his grandfather die why are we finding out on the road?". I may have been distracted and missed a key scene there.

As for the Boltons, I think my confusion is coming from the discussion and relationship and possible spoiler territory in this thread as if I should know and not from my own viewing where I should be asking questions because it is supposed to be a mystery for now.


Exactly. My wife and I have just gotten into Twin Peaks and we were torn which to watch last night, that or GoT. We may just catch up on TP and other shows until Thrones is over.

Robb got handed two letters from Roose Bolton in episode 2 (Dark Wings, Dark Words) while at Harrenhall, one from Riverrun saying his grandfather died, the other from Roose's bastard at Winterfell stating that the Ironborn had escaped, put the castle to the torch and the townspeople to the sword, and that Bran/Rickon were missing and presumed dead. The very next scene was Theon awakening in captivity, his captors giving no details as to their identity or allegiance. Robb's army travels to Riverrun, though not without some discontent.

The men who captured Brienne/Jaime are flying Roose's sigil, and like all Northmen they presumably view Jaime as a fugitive and Brienne as a traitor to their king.

 

[petethepanda]

I loved the one-two sensory punch of the "holy shit" moment followed by that song in the credits. Definitely leaves you spinning.

 

[Stevetopsy]

HOW COME NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT THE BIZARRE CREDITS MUSIC

I thought it was fucking terrible and completely undermined the severity of the situation. I've watched the episode atleast 3-4 times since and every time it is jarring and totally out of place. After a major character altering scene such as that you expect it to be treated a certain way, like it was with Ned. Lingering on the same shot of him screaming for a few seconds then cutting right to a jovial sounding song with heavy drums and guitars gave it an almost comedic vibe. Imagine if they followed up the Ned scene with something similar. Ugh... a very sour note to end on from an otherwise great episode, in my opinion.

 

[Trasher]

No one has a sense of humor about the ending of this episode.

It is known.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Yeaaaah. That ending song was totally out of place and immediately killed the mood.

The ending scene and episode were great though.

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

I thought it was fucking terrible and completely undermined the severity of the situation. I've watched the episode atleast 3-4 times since and every time it is jarring and totally out of place. After a major character altering scene such as that you expect it to be treated a certain way, like it was with Ned. Lingering on the same shot of him screaming for a few seconds then cutting right to a jovial sounding song with heavy drums and guitars gave it an almost comedic vibe. Imagine if they followed up the Ned scene with something similar. Ugh... a very sour note to end on from an otherwise great episode, in my opinion.

The entire scene had a ratcheting, blackly comedic tension that climaxes in a moment of headspinning violence. It was Tarantino-esque.

 

[IAmtheFMan]

The entire scene had a ratcheting, blackly comedic tension that climaxes in a moment of headspinning violence. It was Tarantino-esque.

It actually reminded me a lot of his segment in Four Rooms.

 

[Jacob4815]

That awful song killed the episode to me.

 

[JB1981]

Yes.

They look nothing alike

 

[-griffy-]

I thought it was fucking terrible and completely undermined the severity of the situation. I've watched the episode atleast 3-4 times since and every time it is jarring and totally out of place. After a major character altering scene such as that you expect it to be treated a certain way, like it was with Ned. Lingering on the same shot of him screaming for a few seconds then cutting right to a jovial sounding song with heavy drums and guitars gave it an almost comedic vibe. Imagine if they followed up the Ned scene with something similar. Ugh... a very sour note to end on from an otherwise great episode, in my opinion.

I feel like you guys who hate the ending song are completely missing the point. It doesn't reflect what happened to Jaime, it reflects the people who did it. As in they would carry on singing that song right after chopping his hand off cause they don't care. If anything it added to the horror of the moment. You are shocked when it happens, shocked again by the initial appearance of this out of place song, and then when you actually put the song into context (who was singing it earlier, why they would use that song) it elevated all of those feelings again. The song added another disturbing layer to the act. It was great.

 

[MoonsaultSlayer]

Hardly noticed the song because my son got out of bed a couple minutes before the end but instead of pausing my wife and I thought "what could happen in the last few moments that'd scar him". Plopped him on the couch then *chop. We hurriedly tried distracting him with his stuffed animal and he said "That was funny. He said 'owww'. I want to watch it again". Seems it didn't scar him after all. Not like the time we had the movie Slither on and a tentacle came bursting out of someone's chest/belly and when rushing him back to bed he said "I don't want fingers in my belly". He's a few months into year 3.

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Hardly noticed the song because my son got out of bed a couple minutes before the end but instead of pausing my wife and I thought "what could happen in the last few moments that'd scar him". Plopped him on the couch then *chop. We hurriedly tried distracting him with his stuffed animal and he said "That was funny. He said 'owww'. I want to watch it again". Seems it didn't scar him after all. Not like the time we had the movie Slither on and a tentacle came bursting out of someone's chest/belly and when rushing him back to bed he said "I don't want fingers in my belly". He's a few months into year 3.

Listen you gotta traumatize / desensitize your kids early if you want them to be good movie/TV watchers.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

I feel like you guys who hate the ending song are completely missing the point.

Has it occurred to you that they do get the point and still hate it?

My girlfriends debate over who's better looking, Robb or Jon (how can anyone believe Jon is better?) and my aunt and father's gf loved Khal Drogo and Jaime.

Can't wait to show them this episode.

Jaime (bearded version) is the hottest of them all, followed by Ned and Jaqen H'ghar. It is known.

 

[Stevetopsy]

I feel like you guys who hate the ending song are completely missing the point. It doesn't reflect what happened to Jaime, it reflects the people who did it. As in they would carry on singing that song right after chopping his hand off cause they don't care. If anything it added to the horror of the moment. You are shocked when it happens, shocked again by the initial appearance of this out of place song, and then when you actually put the song into context (who was singing it earlier, why they would use that song) it elevated all of those feelings again. The song added another disturbing layer to the act. It was great.

I guess I should've been more specific, but I didn't have a problem with the actual song and I do realize it was a callback to earlier in the episode when they were singing it. If it had been more in keeping with the style of the show thus far (just dudes singing with maybe some classical guitar, flutes, etc. or even something orchestral) it wouldn't have been jarring at all. It's just that after 2+ seasons of the show having a certain tone and vibe pretty consistently, the "modern" style of that song they chose to use took me completely out of the experience.

 

[Randy Lanzarote]

Holy shit at the ending. I had a feeling something was coming, but didn't think it'd be that severe.

Jaime to become GoT's Merle?

 

[-griffy-]

Has it occurred to you that they do get the point and still hate it?

At least I'm providing reasoning for why I liked it instead of just saying it sucked over and over while insulting those I disagree with.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

At least I'm providing reasoning for why I liked it

And we've explained why we hate it, but whenever we do, we're just no-fun allowed grouches. Duh.

 

[abuC]

This show is greatness, and Dany's new girl is just gorgeous. Redbones with curly hair are a weakness, it is known.

 

[Trasher]

And we've explained why we hate it, but whenever we do, we're just no-fun allowed grouches. Duh.

You do come off that way a lot. Sometimes I wonder why people even watch the show if they are so negative about it.

 

[Complistic]

Holy shit at the ending. I had a feeling something was coming, but didn't think it'd be that severe.

Jaime to become GoT's Merle?

I'll be honest, I thought they were gonna rape him instead. So it sorta caught me off guard.

 

[fanboi]

Hand or cock, choose.

 

[The Horror the horror]

I'll be honest, I thought they were gonna rape him instead. So it sorta caught me off guard.

Went from one of the top 10 swordsmen in all of Westeros to a perennial bottom feeder in one episode. Brutal.

 

[RedShift]

Has it been revealed what happened to Benjin Stark yet? I felt sure Jon would have found him/his corpse by now. Mance hasn't even mentioned him.

Another loose thread from Season 1 is that conversation Ayra overheard between Varis and that guy who introduced Dany to Drogo in Pentos. I have no idea how they're allied. One of them gave Dany the dragons, the other had an assassin try and kill her, and nearly succeeded.

 

[Speevy]

I thought the song was awful too. It's like they knew they were going to have to play that at some point, and finally they just said screw it and threw it in the credits.

It was enough to have those guys singing it, but it ruined the tone.

No matter how true something is to its origins, sometimes you just leave it out.

 

[Neki]

guys Jaimie can just learn to fight with one hand, it's fine, he'll need a rapier now or something.

 

[abuC]

Waifu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-eK562jc7U

 

[Pickles the Firecat]

Has it been revealed what happened to Benjin Stark yet? I felt sure Jon would have found him/his corpse by now. Mance hasn't even mentioned him.

Another loose thread from Season 1 is that conversation Ayra overheard between Varis and that guy who introduced Dany to Drogo in Pentos. I have no idea how they're allied. One of them gave Dany the dragons, the other had an assassin try and kill her, and nearly succeeded.

Illyrio didn't really give Dany dragons, he gave her petrified dragon eggs. That they ended up hatching was something noone could have seen coming.

 

[windowlurker]

HOW COME NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT THE BIZARRE CREDITS MUSIC

The whole episode had this humorous vibe to it. Anyone with a link to the credits music?

 

[Speevy]

The whole episode had this humorous vibe to it. Anyone with a link to the credits music?

Maybe play the music when Podd is about to become a man?

 

[Kadayi]

The end of the episode was Jamie screaming in disbelief. The rest of it is the show credits. Grips need to be gotten I feel.

 

[nubbe]

For Jaime it would probably be worse to lose the hand than to get executed
Given what he said about Bran after he lost his legs.

 

[desh]

Has it been revealed what happened to Benjin Stark yet?

No.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

Kingslayer losing his hand is probably bad news for Sansa.

Also just occured to me that if Sansa left with the Mountian she'd be reunited with Arya now :/

 

[Gigarator]

Kingslayer losing his hand is probably bad news for Sansa.

Also just occured to me that if Sansa left with the Mountian she'd be reunited with Arya now :/

I think you mean The Hound?

 

[robotzombie]

Kingslayer losing his hand is probably bad news for Sansa.

Also just occured to me that if Sansa left with the Mountian she'd be reunited with Arya now :/

You mean the Hound. The mountain is the older brother. And to be honest, a drunken scary knight who protected the king that chopped your dad's head off telling you to come with him probably wouldn't seem like a good idea at the time to you either.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

You mean the Hound. The mountain is the older brother. And to be honest, a drunken scary knight who protected the king that chopped your dad's head off telling you to come with him probably wouldn't seem like a good idea at the time to you either.

He also saved her life and protected her from Joffery. I probably would've left with him, who knows what would've happened if the city fell to Stannis.

Have they shown the hound yet?

 

[jett]

edit: nm

 

[dyergram]

khaleesi is clearly a hollyoaks fan.

 

[Here_Try_This]

Loved it for all the same reasons. Turned Jaime's little tragedy into something of a comedy at the same time!

I feel like you guys who hate the ending song are completely missing the point. It doesn't reflect what happened to Jaime, it reflects the people who did it. As in they would carry on singing that song right after chopping his hand off cause they don't care. If anything it added to the horror of the moment. You are shocked when it happens, shocked again by the initial appearance of this out of place song, and then when you actually put the song into context (who was singing it earlier, why they would use that song) it elevated all of those feelings again. The song added another disturbing layer to the act. It was great.

The biggest problem i have with the song, is that it that it's about as funny as throwing Yakkity Sax in there.

And in the end, it just ruins the "shock" effect that something so out of place Provides.

Goes from "classy" to "cheap laugh" in .2 seconds. I've been noticing more little scenes that bother me like that. the dragon cooking the fish, is another.

Still, they should have fun with it. I'm thankful for how great this show is overall.

 

[Des0lar]

Has it been revealed what happened to Benjin Stark yet?

*Benjen

 

[Psychoward]

He also saved her life and protected her from Joffery. I probably would've left with him, who knows what would've happened if the city fell to Stannis.

Have they shown the hound yet?

That was the hound. They showed the mountain in season 1, when he chopped his horse in half during the joust for the hand.

 

[Hot Coldman]

...Holy crap. Jaime. :O

 

[Klocker]

thought the song was fine not getting the hate... reminded my of the end to a couple deadwood episodes that capped off the moment

Loved it, hey Jamie has been a prick as likeable as he can be he is ambiguous in his protagonist/antagonist role so losing one of his most prized possessions was even more intense than his death.

Loved the moment and the loud clap of "yea so THAT just happened!" :lol

 

[SquiddyCracker]

10/10.

Finally that fucking Lannister gets it, and the post-brothel scene was hilarious and awesome.

 

[SummitAve]

That awful song killed the episode to me.

Song was good. It's just a TV show let them have some bloody fun.

 

[Hot Coldman]

I love the song.

Also, what the hell was that Pod stuff. I think the writers just want to have their Tyrion/Bronn sitcom already, execs be damned. :lol

 

[MoonsaultSlayer]

Has it been revealed what happened to Benjin Stark yet? I felt sure Jon would have found him/his corpse by now. Mance hasn't even mentioned him.

Another loose thread from Season 1 is that conversation Ayra overheard between Varis and that guy who introduced Dany to Drogo in Pentos. I have no idea how they're allied. One of them gave Dany the dragons, the other had an assassin try and kill her, and nearly succeeded.

I have an interesting theory about Benjen but won't reveal in case it takes the surprise away if I'm right... especially if people start calling me out as a book reader. That is how you ruin it, not the actual guess even if it is true.

 

[robotzombie]

That was the hound. They showed the mountain in season 1, when he chopped his horse in half during the joust for the hand.

They also showed him in season 2, when he was a totally different guy

 

[NathanMcMahon]

thought the song was fine not getting the hate... reminded my of the end to a couple deadwood episodes that capped off the moment

Loved it, hey Jamie has been a prick as likeable as he can be he is ambiguous in his protagonist/antagonist role so losing one of his most prized possessions was even more intense than his death.

Loved the moment and the loud clap of "yea so THAT just happened!" :lol

agreed. it worked well.

 

[AuthenticM]

Also, what the hell was that Pod stuff. I think the writers just want to have their Tyrion/Bronn sitcom already, execs be damned. :lol

I ain't got no problem with that.