Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 3 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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Content Roundup: Kissed by Fire
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Wowwww dude. You totally stole this from the other thread.
neoism
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meh Jamie's a boss character plus Bran uses his mind more than he ever did when he could walk... Jamie did a terrible thing but I pretty much like Jaime now, of course its hard to forgive him for Joffrey though lol
Also Ygritte is fucking gorgeous ...damn @_@
All the lady butts in this ep was amesome
why do you think that he clearly loves her...
I gotta say not reading the books its getting a little hard to remember everyone... I'am going to rewatch seasons 1-3 after the season is over...
Chie Satonaka
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I think that pretty much sums it up.
I feel that Robb's decisions are going to catch up with him soon, and I don't think I'm going to care for the result of them. I don't really understand how he's going to get the Frey army on board now.
The Night's Watch vows aren't that alien. The real world has similar ones.
-The Catholic Church orders a life of celibacy. Also, up until about 100 years ago, they still had eunuchs in the church.
-The French Foreign Legion was, stereotypically, an army where you could join and escape your history, no questions asked. Not so much these days but in the previous century it was similar to that.
-Signing up for a ship over the past millennium meant you'd go months to even a year without seeing a woman. You were isolated in the ocean and all you had was your duty. It also meant you could get away from whatever your problems were at that port.
They did not have women on board for many reasons, sometimes for superstitious reasons, which likely stemmed from the reality a woman on a ship full of lonely men would probably suffer. Why do you think the mermaid myth exists? After not seeing a woman for a year or two, you'd begin to see them everywhere.
neoism
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OMG I forgot just how awesome season 1 was... lol
ReturnOfTheRAT
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That edit is new to me and absolutely hilarious.
Chie Satonaka
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I understand all that, but considering they get all their men from dungeons and are basically the lowest of the low, it seems like an actual house with trained men who were raised to be men of the watch might actually go farther than the scraps of people they've got currently. Honestly, I don't know what actual role the Watch is going to play in the story (especially with the current developments), but in that world, the way they went about things doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
I get why the Kingsguard vows are so important, however.
Preview and Plot synopses for Episode 6
"Tywin plans strategic unions for the Lannisters. Melisandre pays a visit to the Riverlands. Robb weighs a compromise to repair his alliance with House Frey. Roose Bolton decides what to do with Jaime Lannister. Jon, Ygritte and the Wildlings face a daunting climb."
neoism
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this is the only thing he could do that would make me like him otherwise I want him dead about as much as Joffrey... Terrible father, terrible person but they really couldn't have gotten a better actor though
lol
I think Brienne is lovely, but Ygritte, damn red heads are my weakness...
Chie Satonaka
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The answer to the question is not really spoilery, but just in case shoot me a PM if you want a full answer.
Over the years, without the threat of White Walkers, the wall changed from this "necessary defense of the realm" to a glorified isolated outpost that doubled as a prison and dumping ground for the unwanted.
So instead of dangerous zombies, the threat was just the Wildlings, a bunch of uncoordinated savages (at least to the Westeros men).
This wouldn't require the best-of-the-best soldiers. All they had to really do was walk along the wall and shoot any Wildlings that tried to scrabble by.
This is why Mance Raider is such a big threat--for once, he's consolidating all the Wildlings into a real army..
The outpost that started off as a major war focal point that slowly declines in quality to become a dumping ground is also not alien to the real world. It still happens today with our current armies. Haven't you noticed that a lot of uneducated and lower-economic-class people tend to drift into the army in the US? Sure, they may be completely unable to function in the real world, but while they're part of the Noble US Army, they'll survive.
Psychoward
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I have not watched Episode 5 yet, but I just watched 4 and let me just quickly pop in to say holy shit. Lord Commander, Dany, godDAMN. What an episode. I realized like 2 minutes after the episode ended that ever since the scene at Craster's began my jaw was slightly open and I was smiling. Damn.
Strong tactical ability but poor strategic management seems to be what Robb's about.
Steelyuhas
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The other thread stole it from this one.
I wonder now that Osha, Bran, Hodor, and the other Stark kid will encounter Snow and Mance now that they are going north for safety and Mance is going south. Osha is wildling, so I forget if she has any relationship to Mance's group, but it should be an good dynamic in a few episodes when both groups should finally collide.
Are they still going to the Wall? I thought the Reed kids say they were going somewhere else.
Yeah, I found all the praise for it to be kind of odd. I mean it was a good enough scene, but I didn't think it was all that. It was hard to follow, as you said, and I felt like Beric kept putting in weird little flourishes and twirls that I really doubt would do well in that fight. It looked like the Hound should have been able to hit him a few of those times.
I agree that the cuts were annoying. Probably hard to keep that sword properly on fire for more than 20-30 seconds.
Perhaps you are right. The journey of Bran has been a slow one this season. It has mostly been visions/dreams and that's it. That's one character I'm the most confused on the direction and purpose of his story. Perhaps it has something to do with the White Walkers or one of the gods from one of the religions. I think Bran will become force to be reckoned with by season five, should he survive that long.
Chie Satonaka
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As I was heating up my lunch, I was thinking about Tywin and his interactions with both Tyrion and Cersei this season.
I then realized that the only person Tywin Lannister has shown any real, actual affection towards is Arya Stark. Yes, I remember the scene with him and Jamie in season 1, but he still ripped him open verbally, and it was more of a "Do your duty for your house" sort of speech rather than a father/son affectionate chat.
I wonder how he'd react if he found out it was her now that neither of them are no longer at Harrenhal.
I then realized that the only person Tywin Lannister has shown any real, actual affection towards is Arya Stark. Yes, I remember the scene with him and Jamie in season 1, but he still ripped him open verbally, and it was more of a "Do your duty for your house" sort of speech rather than a father/son affectionate chat.
I wonder how he'd react if he found out it was her now that neither of them are no longer at Harrenhal.
Psychoward
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Yeah, he was like "the only man who can help me, the man I betrayed!" u wot m8
Also, what the hell is up with Stannis' wife and daughter? I remember absolutely nothing about them.
Edit: also, I completely forgot, did Jorah reccomend killing dany before and he still wants to or? What is going on there?
Finally, who was Theon's real father that he spoke of?
Maybe, because is only the second and first time respectively the we saw them if I recall correct. I wonder if they are locked or not.
Psychoward
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Did they explain what was up with the babies and the daughter's face yet and I forgot? Lol I really need to rematch season 1 and 2 huh
He's one of those characters that leaves me conflicted. I want to like him in some episodes (especially recently of course which I fear is to build us up before Jaime lets us down) but it's hard to forget what he's done and how much damage he's done to the entire world. His smartass attitude always made me chuckle, but now we're seeing a different side to him for a reason, so I remain skeptical. This show knows how to play on people's emotions and really toy with them so I have a feeling Jaime will surprise us all again in the future that will change everything AGAIN.
I love shows that put this much thought into characters and it's even more amazing that Game of Thrones manages to do that with 100 main characters. I'm not sure how the balance it all, but they make it work even if it's overwhelming at times as a viewer. This is one of those shows where you're doing yourself a big favor to rewatch episodes and discuss them with other people to figure out what you might have missed.
Big Baybee
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I can't get over Jon Snow eating that wild, unwashed coochie. That boy nasty.
I read your post in the voice of Charles Dance.
"My REAL father lost his head at King's Landing."
You really can't work out who that may be referring to? Any father figures who may have been beheaded in the series?
pulga
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This should be engrained into everyones minds by now lol
Chie Satonaka
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Freaking seriously. Youtube comments are toxic. I've somehow, SOMEHOW avoided major spoilers on Youtube, but be careful.
Also, if you visit 4chan (yes, yes, I know, lol4chan), do yourself a favor and stay away from /tv/ forever.
It was terrible. The editing was sloppy. However, it was still awesome because of how infrequent sword fights are in the series.
You know nothing, John Snow...of venereal diseases.
Man, that's going to be a rude wake-up call.
My point is she's the least attractive female in the series to me. Doesn't matter that she's nomadic or otherwise. Ygritte just ain't a hottie and her naked scene was the first time in the series I was begging for clothes to actually go back on.
Not even with the gay sex and penises, huh?
Chie Satonaka
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Thank god I wasn't the only person who thought this. I try not to let my mind go on fantastic voyages when it comes to speculation on this show, but my first thought with Jamie and that guy was "Oh god, is he gonna get a hand back somehow?"
Seeing as how the Lord of Light can BRING PEOPLE BACK TO LIFE, this doesn't seem so farfetched anymore.
True, that god can do that, but as Beric Dondarrion said, he comes back missing a bit of himself each time, so eventually he'd become an empty shell. And God cannot bring back completely severed limbs--Arya asked about her father and the Brotherhood basically said no.
Jamie should probably look to the alchemy and forbidden sciences for help there.
Ninja Scooter
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Even that cock eyed chick that Theon banged on teh boat?
lastplayed
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He should get a sword attachment. Like Hook, except with a sword.
Chie Satonaka
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I figured the reasoning for this was because poor Ned had been dead for awhile. Not to mention the problem with his remains being in Catelyn Stark's posession and his head being on a spike in King's Landing.
Maybe I was overthinking it.
I need to go home and rewatch this episode. >_<
Ninja Scooter
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I think he also had to have been a believer in the Lord of Light. Ned wasn't.
Well, we know a few things already:
1. The Lord of Light doesn't heal scars and wounds completely. Beric is missing an eye. Having the head completely severed is a bit worse.
2. Ned's also been rotting for about a year or so by now. Raising him now would be like raising a zombie, all starting to rot.
These are probably both good reasons why he can't come back.
Its frightening how easily people are able to forgive someone who pushed a child from a window so casually.
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