-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 4 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
- Thread starter Steelyuhas
- Start date
- Status
Deified Data
Banned
Yep, I was hoping the Night's Watch would get obliterated so Jon Snow could take his plot armor to a storyline that he doesn't totally overwhelm with his mediocrity.
In that case, maybe because House Tully was one of the Great Houses? Littlefinger didn't have that luxury and had to work his way into a respected position so maybe he thought marrying Catelyn would give him major recognition which his house lacked. He was always looking to make moves but you need to have a Great House behind you and the recognition to get others to follow you.
That's just my guess if that was about Catelyn. He always wanted more power and being associated with a Great House like House Tully would be a big step up for him at that point. I mean, he married Lysa just to get into a better position with House Aryn and The Vale and is now grooming Robyn basically giving him a lot of power and leadership for his next move. Now imagine if he uses Sansa to get some houses in the North to follow him and he'd have himself quite the army to take the throne.
He's always looking for more power.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Look at you motherfuckers jumping on the Missandei bandwagon. I was on that shit a season ago before the nude scene.
TheLaughingStock
Member
So, Mance sent his best fighters to test Castle Black's defenses?
I'm probably talking out of my ass, but that doesn't seem very Littlefinger-ish. However he goes after the throne, I don't see him doing it by force.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
I honestly can't even remember who the wildling leader is, when was the last time we saw him?
That wasn't Mance that they had, it was one of his lieutenants.
Well said, that's probably what it is alright. Fascinating character, Littlefinger. Looking forward to more of him in season five
Back to this episode, when I saw Slynt opening the door with the key, I actually thought he was going to get into an erm... rapey mood. After all, for all he knew it was his last night alive. I thought Sam would come back in time to see him try it and kill him. Was very glad to see he hadn't, though - I laughed when Sam found him cowering behind the door. I hope his cowardice is mentioned to the other brothers.
Awesome, awesome episode all the way through. Though I don't see why Jon has to go try to kill Mance - why can't they just destroy the tunnel like he suggested? Surely that wouldn't take long to do?
Well, put it this way. Littlefinger would rathet all thr houses beat each othet to a bloody pulp and when there all tired and decimated, he would come marching into King's Landing unopposed with a huge army. Littlefinger would rathet be behind the shadows and let others do his bidding before he takea credit.
Pop On Arrival
Banned
Blithering coward role was filled perfectly by Janos Slynt anyway. What a hateable fuckhead.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Mance is on the other side of the wall still. They have Tormund.
Man, dude looked EXACTLY like him. Wtf. Mance was there though, wasn't he?
Mance Rayder(?). Last season when Jon was deep undercover stealth sneak like we saw him for the first and only time.
Yeah, but would he be able to amass a giant army without raising the suspicions of the other houses?
They ahowed him in the preview of GOT thrones today before they began the episode. I think he was last shown in Season 2?? From what I remember. He used to be a member of the Nights watch but fled north and lived with the Wildlings.
But would it matter if those houses are already beaten and broke if he has The Vale and The North behind him?
Robb was winning most of the war but his skills were lacking in the very areas where Lord Baelish is a pro.
No matter what, he needs SOME big names behind him and there's no avoiding a conflict to take the throne even if it's easier than anyone expected. It's more about having support AFTER he takes the throne than anything else in my eyes so now it's a matter of IF he can pull it off. He's instigated these wars weakening the other houses big enough to field such a huge army and now he can pick up the pieces, especially since The Vale "coincidentally" didn't get involved in the war before.
Now he has to worry about Stannis and possibly Roose Bolton who probably has bigger ambitions eventually. Who knows about Dany being stuck so far off dealing with the issues there but I'm sure he's thinking about ways to deal with her too. Much like real life government, he probably has numerous contingency plans just like getting Sansa out the second time.
Mind you, that's obviously just my opinion but Littlefinger is playing the long-term game while others look at the short-term.
I was on that shit was like 3 years ago when she was on an ep of Mis-Fits
Look up MisFits s3e1 for the nsfw stuff.
She's a goddess <3
PS: The guy who plays Ramsey Bolton was also on that show. It's quite good
The cannibal tribe just joined the wildling army. Mance the man main is actually a pretty civilized and intelligent dude, a former Crow. That's how he managed to unite all the tribes.
There's a lot. For me, it's character motivations that I keep forgetting (and I've read 3 of the books)
Why did Jon even have to go to the wall in the first place? I really can't remember lol
UnObtainium17
Member
Who was the guy that said im gonna eat yo momma... The one with wierd ridge patterns on the face? Did he die this episode?
Edit: crap. My first guess was he was mance.
Edit: crap. My first guess was he was mance.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
UnObtainium17
Member
Jesus... I thought he was mance all along lol. Thanks
I thought he led them over the wall, so they know where best to get by Castle Black patrols. Only Ygritte knew he has doing it to save his skin and volunteered to help. Too bad she died
. I was expectin her to be the new queen of the north when ahe married Jok Snow. Now Snow will be like Robert Baratheon, mourning over a long dead love.Because he was honor bound after feeling like an outcast in Winterfell despite being raised as a highborn. Was the only way he felt he could live up to being of Stark lineage and be recognized past being a bastard.
I thought he led them over the wall, so they know where best to get by Castle Black patrols. Only Ygritte knew he has doing it to save his skin and volunteered to help. Too bad she died
Nah, I mean like why he was sent to Castle Black
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2812026/
She's in Fast and Furious 7 so it seems she is getting bigger roles. I love it
BeekleMatter
Member
Thank you <3
Wasn't it his own choice? His uncle was in the Watch, and it's not as if he'd ever inherit any land or power in Winterfell. He was basically an angsty teen running off to join the Foreign Legion.
Samwell finally speaking up and acting like a man was the highlight of his episode. Fuck yeah Sam!
Oh come the hell on, sure Jon Snow's storyline is relatively weak compared to the rest, but this episode was fucking phenomenal. We finally got a great battle scene.
Oh come the hell on, sure Jon Snow's storyline is relatively weak compared to the rest, but this episode was fucking phenomenal. We finally got a great battle scene.
He was partly sent because Catelyn didn'y want him around. Though Ned talked to Jon and told him that his uncle served in the Night watch and it was an honour to serve there, and not a punishment. I think he did it so Jon can get fighting experience that if Ned had lived, would've recalled Jon and maybe married him off to another noblewoman. I hope next season they flesh out, who Jon's mom was. Robert Baratheon stated she was a great beautiful woman to have made Ned Stark commit sin. There must be a good story behind it.
Edit: Also, hope we also see Robert Baratheon's bastard son's character more and how he plays out in the Game of Thrones plotline.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
First thing that came to my mind as well, haha.
Honestly this is exactly what I was thinking when he was talking about his past.
Mashin Haters
Member
man i got so many helms deep vibes. this episode was fcking amazing!
So many characters died and in brutal ways my reaction throughout the episode just turned to this.
So many characters died and in brutal ways my reaction throughout the episode just turned to this.
Have to agree. Good thing a bad episode in GoT standards is still great TV. The action was good, the speeches good. Allister stepping up was nice, got some quick points. I thought Ygritte might kill Snow for a second there. What was annoying is this whole "100" crows bit, and it's taking forever to kill everyone despite how quickly the kill count is racking up. Didn't flow well for me. Best part were the 1-on-1 duels though.
Anyway, reason why this wasn't really great to me is because the wall basically blows. I really cannot stand when Sam is taking up screen time. I have a hard time relating to him in any way compared to any other character. His "practical get-it-done" attitude wasn't surprising, and not believable. You're shit Sam. Who genuinely likes this guy? Perhaps someone as Charmin soft as him? Watching prostitutes burp songs is more interesting.
Looks like next episode is back to good shit. Then a year of waiting again...
:lol this
Amazing episode though. Thought it would suck but holy crap.. so good.
Probably one of the best episodes in the show for me.
Oh and I've started liking Jon Snow more. He's pretty cool.
- Status