BobTheFork
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Maybe Olly is a White Walker T-800
They turned him and covered him in skin to fool the hoomans
They turned him and covered him in skin to fool the hoomans
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 5 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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the_firewithin
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I was glad Jaime was looking out for his bro Bronn
Captain.Falafel
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I'm still on team Stannis.
That doesn't mean I'm rooting for him to be the King, or that I think he's the most likable character. Outside of a very small handful of characters, the vast majority of them don't deserve rooting for. What I do want as a show-watcher is for the most compelling individuals to receive the most screen time. He's certainly up there in terms of how he's written as a character.
Where this show has suffered, for me, this season is that the most interesting characters hitherto have I either been killed off or pushed aside in the interest of introducing new, far less fleshed out characters. We've lost Rob, Catelyn, Tywin, Oberyn, Hound, just to name very few. The screen time of the likes of Littlefinger, Varys, Margaery, and Brienne has significantly decreased this season.
Instead, we're back to focusing on the gratuitous mindless depravity of Ramsay, or the quips of the most generic character of all time Daario, Dany's lack of progression (relative to how much time she gets), as well as Arya's poorly paced storyline.
So, fuck it. Give me more Stannis.
That doesn't mean I'm rooting for him to be the King, or that I think he's the most likable character. Outside of a very small handful of characters, the vast majority of them don't deserve rooting for. What I do want as a show-watcher is for the most compelling individuals to receive the most screen time. He's certainly up there in terms of how he's written as a character.
Where this show has suffered, for me, this season is that the most interesting characters hitherto have I either been killed off or pushed aside in the interest of introducing new, far less fleshed out characters. We've lost Rob, Catelyn, Tywin, Oberyn, Hound, just to name very few. The screen time of the likes of Littlefinger, Varys, Margaery, and Brienne has significantly decreased this season.
Instead, we're back to focusing on the gratuitous mindless depravity of Ramsay, or the quips of the most generic character of all time Daario, Dany's lack of progression (relative to how much time she gets), as well as Arya's poorly paced storyline.
So, fuck it. Give me more Stannis.
All these people turning their back on Stannis now. Lol. First you want the man to be your King, then he does what must be done and you turn your back on your King. He did what he did for you! To be your King! The throne comes at no easy price to anyone. You are not true followers of King Stannis Baratheon. You were all just on a bandwagon.
That's a good summary.
Every time there is some sort of action scene that relies on some sort of fluke or the like, I think, how could they do this better?
I don't have the answers but I definitely feel that the show isn't as good as it was in previous seasons. Not that it can't pick it up again, though.
I subscribe to that last scene coming straight out of Attack of The Clones. Seeing Jorah being a badass was cool but the whole scene went into ridiculous territory way to quickly even if the dragon was awesome.
The rest of the episode was dark as hell. That whole Stannis scene was hard to watch.
The show still seems very directionless and like a lot of stuff won't matter in the end but let's see. I'm curious how the game of thrones will actually interfere with the monsters and all of that.
He killed the best character. Let's hope not.
He also looks ready to murder Jon so I don't think I can approve that.
The rest of the episode was dark as hell. That whole Stannis scene was hard to watch.
The show still seems very directionless and like a lot of stuff won't matter in the end but let's see. I'm curious how the game of thrones will actually interfere with the monsters and all of that.
All hail His Grace, Olly, First of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm.
He killed the best character. Let's hope not.
He also looks ready to murder Jon so I don't think I can approve that.
All hail His Grace, Olly, First of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm.
I just know this kid is gonna mess it up big time.
He already shot and killed Yggrite.
She considered it and decided to try and win them over instead even going as far as planning to marry one of them. They tried to assassinate her afterwards and killed her future husband. I don't expect her to show them any more mercy. I expect them to be dead.
Ziltoidia 9
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Quick thought on Jon Snow/Olly. I do think he will try to off Jon, but it might be done with
and then it is reveled that
Either that or Olly just tries to kill him and Jon offs him.
If Olly DOES kill him tho, that might be a game changer to me in the series. The "new" cast isn't good enough to get me as involved in the show as the people over the first few seasons. We are starting to lose to many well done characters. With that said, it seems like Jon is as untouchable as Arya, Bran, Tyrion. Just seems like his point for the story is too important.
fire
he didn't die, and it confirms he is Targaryen.
Either that or Olly just tries to kill him and Jon offs him.
If Olly DOES kill him tho, that might be a game changer to me in the series. The "new" cast isn't good enough to get me as involved in the show as the people over the first few seasons. We are starting to lose to many well done characters. With that said, it seems like Jon is as untouchable as Arya, Bran, Tyrion. Just seems like his point for the story is too important.
I don't see how. But it would be intense to have him be the one behind these guys.
I don't think so but he did tell her to kill everyone there so I guess it's possible.
soundscream
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You would think after the first ambush they would say "hey remember those swords we had to learn before the spear, how about we bust them out now?".
Freedom = $1.05
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Daario strikes me as a lot of things but petty enough to have hundred if not thousands of people put in immediate danger just because he feels some sort of way about an arranged marriage?
Naw, dude knows he has her on lock. If anything, he needs to worry about the friendzone zombie who could really make things turn for the worse real fast.
water_wendi
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In regards to those spoilers
we see Jon get burned when he grabs the lantern from Mormonts hand and tosses it on the wight in the first season.
Maybe it's because I haven't read the books or because I'm relatively new to the show - but I find all the fan-clamoring and picking sides and such over the premise about the fight over the Throne to be kind of strange, considering that Winter seems to be the overriding conflict of the show, making the Throne itself a grand symbol of ignorance and futility.
Like, I can't imagine anyone ultimately gets that Throne at this story's conclusion.
So the fact that so much of the fan discussion seems to revolve around around the human politics is a bit baffling.
Like, I can't imagine anyone ultimately gets that Throne at this story's conclusion.
So the fact that so much of the fan discussion seems to revolve around around the human politics is a bit baffling.
RyanardoDaVinci
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Already answered.
Already answered.
Everybody will be dead with Stannis sitting on the throne with nobody to rule over. Bless the Lord of Light.
the_firewithin
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they weren't actually married yet though right? besides Daario was still gonna be hitting it
While this seemed like a binary choice now Stannis never needed to be there.
Stannis through the previous vision provided would know winter would almost arrive if he decided to invade the North. He knew that fighting under such conditions would put himself and his army at risk without divine intervention. He could have went against the grain and defied the Lord of Light like he did at Blackwater. Shireen and himself could've been safe at his castle even if the crows would've most likely lost without his aid.
Ziltoidia 9
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Ah, well there we go. Maybe you have to be pure targaryen, and thats why they inbreed.
MushroomSamba
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Well, it's generally considered the more interesting aspect of the show. The political intrigue and throne-chasing has been the main focus for a long time (and also incredibly compelling), while the WW angle has been brewing in the background and only recently stormed into the forefront.
That's kind of the problem with this whole Winter thing. A lot of people loved the politicking and the intrigue and the show even named itself after that but, in the end, it matters very little since the biggest thread is clearly the White Walkers.
Right now I don't care who is the king and the path to there (and the people that died) matter less and less each episode if the end goal is the supernatural stuff.
People who credit this to Dark Souls have apparently never played Soul Calibur.
Cro-Magnon
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viserys was a targaryen alright, but didn't have fire immunity
it's dany who's somehow special
I wonder if they'll go for a 3 hour movie to wrap everything up.
They have a hard time time fitting all the characters in each season let alone an episode, so I wonder if they'll go off with a movie (and none of this bs entourage wait time)
The White Walkers are the "hey these guys are bad because we tell you guys they are". Other than the intrigue or we should kill them before they eventually kill us all, does anyone actually hold contempt from them?
In a show where we've had Joffrey and Ramsey where the writers have done a good job of building absolute hatred for those two characters, the White Walkers don't even move the emotional needle yet.
MrCookiepants
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Why the fuck was anyone rooting for Stannis in the first place? Mel is the one who's really in charge, and she literally spits demons out of her vagina. Doesn't get more evil than that.
There can't be two good guys fighting for the throne. Dany is the good guy. Everyone else is jerks.
AuthenticM
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No way.
LonelyGreyWolf
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Saw the episode.
Could Arya look a little more suspicious? Lol. She's the least discrete assassins I've ever seen. And Stannis is really losing it, yeah. Kind of disappointing that we didn't get to see Ramsay's attack.
Could Arya look a little more suspicious? Lol. She's the least discrete assassins I've ever seen. And Stannis is really losing it, yeah. Kind of disappointing that we didn't get to see Ramsay's attack.
Captain.Falafel
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The Atlantic Game of Thrones Roundtable echoed my thoughts above as well in a bit more of a straightforward way. Thought I'd share it here and see people's thoughts.
There's a lot more quality discussion in the article here. Be warned, however, that they do mention the books in passing, in terms of divergences, not spoilers.
There's a lot more quality discussion in the article here. Be warned, however, that they do mention the books in passing, in terms of divergences, not spoilers.
At this point the only guy I can see getting the throne is Gendry, and by then nobody will care as most of Westeros will be a post-apocalyptic wasteland.
The remaining Starks don't care about the throne, the Lannisters are has-beens who'll probably retire to Dorne, Dany will be sick of ruling by that point and everyone else will be dead.
So basically, this is art imitating life. Whitewalkers represent the looming decay of our unsustainable social order, which is bad news for everyone, but, despite the futility of psychologically suppressing that potential threat and backing your favorite, useless political pawn - you do it anyway because it's something to invest your time and emotional energies in and you find it kind of fun.
I don't see any quality discussion in those quotes. Just the typical whining from critics who fancy themselves as smarter than the show runners. Who says that Ramsay is untrained and has never been to war in his life, or that his men rode in to the camp on horses?
The Lamonster
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Shireen was not happy at the end of that walk.
Calcium
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Just watched last nights episode. Damn, Stannis. Ice cold. If taking Winterfell doesn't work he could fill in for one of the White Walkers. Now I don't really care who wins between Stannis and the Boltons. Just have Dany ride over and torch them all from the air. I'm ready for dragon domination.
The Inventor
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What was the last word of the episode? Was it "valahad" or "vlahad"?
Not saying who or when it was said just for those who didn't watch it yet
Not saying who or when it was said just for those who didn't watch it yet
He killed Arya's "dancing teacher"
Allegedly killed Arya's sword teacher from Bravos.
The Lamonster
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Sad that we probably won't see any more Dany or Tyrion this season.
huh?
The Lamonster
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another person confusing Martells and Tyrells.
he also slapped around Sansa quite a bit, not that Arya knows anything about it though.
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