Xena was much better than the Dorne scenes lol.
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Hahaha The Martells who HATE the Lannisters are going to be backing them in any way? Am I the only person that doesn't believe Prince Doran is serious about this so called alliance?
Cersei was arrested for having sex with her cousin and getting him to murder the King.
Doran and Ellaria aren't stupid at all.
CountAntonius
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He did seem a little too nice about it. I'm sure he would love to see his son on the Iron Throne.
Isn't his son the niece of the former princess married to Rhaegar?
I think it's meant to be in stark contrast. Here we have this large territory that is being ruled by a king days away that has an entirely different culture. It's like colonialism where nations think they can rule a different culture forever when there's more differences than similarities.
Showing this bright, beautiful world with different clothing, etc. is showing how disconnected Dorne is from the happenings of Westeros and how they seem to be unaffected by all the bullshit the great families of Westeros cause and would only care if they decided to make their own moves.
I'm sure they'll have a big part in the future as I can't imagine this alliance lasting through thick and thin. They just don't care down there about the nonsense and probably have their own aspirations beyond what they're letting on. Dorne is widely viewed as independent it seems, so it pretty much is a different world from Westeros. I'm just curious if White Walkers care about them...lol
Well, considering the Queen and King's mother are currently in jail and maybe sentenced to death by religious nuts, and the King is more and more known to be a product of incest... I doubt anything is going to happen at all with this alliance.
ComputerBlue
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Who is going with Trystane to King's Landing other than Myrcella?
Summer Haze
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Most of the fighting in episode 8 felt and looked visceral, exciting, and professionally choreographed, whereas the combat in episode 8 felt and looked much cheaper and poorly choreographed to me. I mean, just look at this shit:
Whoever's responsible for the awesomeness of episode 8's fight scenes needs to be used for all of the upcoming fight scenes.
CountAntonius
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I'm sure he's going to have some bodygaurds. I was thinking they would be the one to help Jaime free Cersei but then I thought what if they see how weak the lanisters are now? Jaime, Cersei, Tommen. That's all? I think it would hardly start a war to kill the three and try and take the throne for Dorne.
ComputerBlue
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I think they already know who the only remaining Lannisters are. But having seeing Cersei locked up and Tommen with his back against the wall will definitely sweeten the situation.
Even with guards though it seems weird, Trystane and Myrcella are meant to be what? 15-16? I see it as a risky move. Granted, I guess they probably don't know about the problems the faith has been causing.
CountAntonius
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Definitely a risky move but if there was ever a time to get back at them it would be now while they are at their weakest. After what they did to their sister and then Oberyn last season it would seem really odd if Prince Doran just chooses to help the three remaining Lannisters instead of getting revenge and the throne in one move.
Yeah, but part of the reason for Dorne is to get Jaime out of the way while shit goes down in Kings Landing.
Nameless
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Luckily I won't have to find out for a while assuming Melisandre survives long enough to encounter Arya again like she promised. Hopefully the character will continue to play a bigger role now that we seem to be moving into the 'Fire vs Ice' part of the story.
Well Thoros kinda stumbled upon that ability. Beric had been killed and he said a prayer for his dead not knowing it would bring him back. Meli is shocked to hear about this as if it never occurred to her. But now that she knows it's possible I wouldn't be shocked to see her try if, say, Stannis dies.
Or maybe after Davos reports back how Olly shoved Jon off The Wall and shot him full of arrows before he hit the ground, Meli will go and bring him back, since, clearly Jon is important in her eyes.
As far as Blood Curses, the first we see is the one the village witch tricks Daeny with. A sacrifice is necessary as "Only death pays for life". The unborn baby Daeny unknowingly pays with did have King's Blood as well. Pretty interesting.
ComputerBlue
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I don't see him as getting revenge, I think he'll help them, but not without cost. It should at least finally bring something interesting out of the Dorne story line.
Agreed, but you never know with this show. Worst possible sacrifice and it could end up in a loss. That would be a really shitty twist.
LOL Classic Stannis.
Absolutely disgusting.
illmatic22
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lol that's wrong haha
TheContact
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Stannis is going to destroy roose I think. If burning shireen works then something has to come from it. Plus the lord of the light is pretty legit
If stannis fails here I think he loses all hope and maybe kills mellisandre.
Killing shireen wasn't his idea. He rejected it at first but became desperate and it shows how badly he wants to be king he'd kill his own daughter to get it.
Doran pretty much told Ellara to kiss his ring and step in line, or die. I really don't see him as someone to break bread with the people responsible for the deaths of his siblings, niece, and nephew. We've been told that even with his dragons, Aegon never could conquer Dorne. Now I'm supposed to believe they're suddenly all about that Seven Kingdoms bullshit? If Dragons couldn't bring them into the fold, I seriously doubt any army in Westeros could force Dorne to be subservient to the Iron Throne.
Something is going to happen to the guy that's betrothed to Myrcella, then Dorne will be back in the picture.
TheLostBigBoss
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Most of the fighting in episode 8 felt and looked visceral, exciting, and professionally choreographed, whereas the combat in episode 8 felt and looked much cheaper and poorly choreographed to me. I mean, just look at this shit:
Whoever's responsible for the awesomeness of episode 8's fight scenes needs to be used for all of the upcoming fight scenes.
There is an issue.
That person who was used for Episode 8 is in Greenland during shoot.
It's hard to transport him to Spain for Dorme scenes XD.
Ville Pukema
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Lord of the light is same god the resurreaction flame sword wielding man in cave worshipped with the "men with no banners" or something like that? Legit enough to resurreact dead man, I think the god is going to be legit enough to give something for crispy daughter.
Would love to see more of the guys whose leader had that flame sword. They should join Stannis!
There was never a point in time since the invention of the word "less" (which predates the idea of grammar rules) when people didn't use "less" for countables.
Unlike "fewer", which is almost never used for uncoutnables and therefore sounds weird to native speakers.
Some people prefer to use fewer than less, there's nothing wrong with that, and in some cases there's a good reason to do so (like the example you gave), but all the cases Stannis bitched about are pure pedantry, though one must admit, not as much pedantry as me bitching about linguistics in a Game of Thrones thread
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https://motivatedgrammar.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/10-items-or-less-is-just-fine/
There was never a point in time since the invention of the word "less" (which predates the idea of grammar rules) when people didn't use "less" for countables.
Unlike "fewer", which is almost never used for uncoutnables and therefore sounds weird to native speakers.
Some people prefer to use fewer than less, there's nothing wrong with that, and in some cases there's a good reason to do so (like the example you gave), but all the cases Stannis bitched about are pure pedantry, though one must admit, not as much pedantry as me bitching about linguistics in a Game of Thrones thread
Read more:
https://motivatedgrammar.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/10-items-or-less-is-just-fine/
I know the history. What I was trying to address in my previous post is that a distinction was introduced in part to mirror much/many as you've said and also to to avoid ambiguity in certain instances. Languages change, and I think using fewer for countable nouns is a helpful change.
ComputerBlue
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Well, I'm not suggesting that he's going to break bread with them, or at least not in the way you think. I just think that he will do what he can to put himself into a position of power without resorting to war or even violence, at least in the beginning.
Think of the Tyrell family, a rose's beauty often hides the fact that it has thorns. Other than having Joffrey killed, which was for the good of the realm they are sneaking their way into a position of power.
ComputerBlue
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Gaf, I'm pretty bummed out that there is only one episode left.
Well at least there is a year long wait after that.
Most of the fighting in episode 8 felt and looked visceral, exciting, and professionally choreographed, whereas the combat in episode 8 felt and looked much cheaper and poorly choreographed to me. I mean, just look at this shit:
Whoever's responsible for the awesomeness of episode 8's fight scenes needs to be used for all of the upcoming fight scenes.
Don't talk shit about the tactical combat roll, I've seen Geralt of Rivia do it all the time. It's a legit move.
LOL at how the dude lifts his arms up and just sorta staggers into Jorah's sword
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Maybe I'm just not paying enough attention, but I don't understand the "rules" of Melisandre's blood magic.
First use- Stannis fucks Melisandre and she births demon baby
Second use- Melisandre uses leeches on Gendry and then burns the leeches containing the blood
But suddenly this time, with Shireen, she has to kill her. Specifically burn her alive. Why? I know even Stannis asks why she can't just use leeches, but I don't remember her giving any kind of real answer. It just doesn't make any sense that she needs to burn Shireen alive to save Stannis from bad weather but she can kill off 3 wannabe kings with a couple drops of blood from Gendry.
tattooed_dwarf
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But where the hell is Blackfish?
CountAntonius
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Still taking a piss. He drank a lot.
Freeza Under The Shower
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Still swimming...
IN PISS!
lol so wrong, yet funny
I guess enough time has passed since the Shireen scene to reflect on it. And my reaction is interesting. I'm not sure if there's a point at which the violence in the show becomes 'too much', but it looks like that might have been it for me. I barely remember the rest of that episode, and I have no desire to watch the next one. Or next season, really. In a very calm way, I really feel like I might be done with this. Not angry, just feel like my interest in the story is killed. Which is a shame after 5 years. It wouldn't be the first time I gave up on this series for good, and the last one stuck, which is why I'm in this thread rather than the other one. Maybe this one will stick too. I guess we'll see.
Still just super disappointed to invest all that time just to get something like that scene... can't get over it.
It's not the only reason, though. The show has clearly lost it's way. Dany and her story are both so weak (I'm sorry but Clarke is just appalling), and her story will only become more and more essential as time goes on. Dorne was an utter farce this year, and Arya's story, while watchable, is irrelevant. Even King's Landing is beginning to feel irrelevant, having seen the White Walkers. That leaves the North, where the show has still been on fire all season. But I genuinely believe that Jon will get killed soon (by Olly, show isn't even pretending to be subtle anymore), the Walkers will overrun the wall early next season and that part of the story will end. Because of fucking course it will, we're enjoying it.
I suppose it was a good run, can't complain too much.
Still just super disappointed to invest all that time just to get something like that scene... can't get over it.
It's not the only reason, though. The show has clearly lost it's way. Dany and her story are both so weak (I'm sorry but Clarke is just appalling), and her story will only become more and more essential as time goes on. Dorne was an utter farce this year, and Arya's story, while watchable, is irrelevant. Even King's Landing is beginning to feel irrelevant, having seen the White Walkers. That leaves the North, where the show has still been on fire all season. But I genuinely believe that Jon will get killed soon (by Olly, show isn't even pretending to be subtle anymore), the Walkers will overrun the wall early next season and that part of the story will end. Because of fucking course it will, we're enjoying it.
I suppose it was a good run, can't complain too much.
There were a few goofy and self-indulgent moves in the pits but I think for the most part I think it was going for verisimilitude over flash. Which is tonally odd, but still.Most of the fighting in episode 8 felt and looked visceral, exciting, and professionally choreographed, whereas the combat in episode 8 felt and looked much cheaper and poorly choreographed to me. I mean, just look at this shit:
Whoever's responsible for the awesomeness of episode 8's fight scenes needs to be used for all of the upcoming fight scenes.
I mean yeah it's not as awesome watching Jorah grapple his opponents while out of each other's weapons reach but that was assuredly how people actually fought back then, not like the stuff you see in ep 8 where you just have Jon Snow and friends carve through a dozen dudes like an action movie (which I liked btw, especially when he faces off with the WW).
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Does anyone have a gif of when John Snow is walking through the snow and he sees a walker and then he spins and slices it in half? Loved that part.Most of the fighting in episode 8 felt and looked visceral, exciting, and professionally choreographed, whereas the combat in episode 8 felt and looked much cheaper and poorly choreographed to me. I mean, just look at this shit:
Whoever's responsible for the awesomeness of episode 8's fight scenes needs to be used for all of the upcoming fight scenes.
ComputerBlue
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See you next week buddy.
While the shireen scene was certainly uncomfortable and disorienting, its really not that much worse than what the show has done over the years. I understand the sentiments of "enough is enough" but alot of the "bad writing or gimmick" comments feel unjustified.
They've been trying to torch someone with the kings blood since the blackwater. Gendry is obviously out of the picture. So who next? All the targs are gone. And by law the Baratheons hold the crown. If he wasn't having a son anytime soon, then obviously I think you look to the daughter.
Idk, it made sense to me. Stannis has taken numerous losses and was reaching a breaking point in the harsh winter. I wanted him to return to castle black, cause honestly Jon looks to be in trouble but I don't call a story bad just because it didnt play out the way I wanted.
They've been trying to torch someone with the kings blood since the blackwater. Gendry is obviously out of the picture. So who next? All the targs are gone. And by law the Baratheons hold the crown. If he wasn't having a son anytime soon, then obviously I think you look to the daughter.
Idk, it made sense to me. Stannis has taken numerous losses and was reaching a breaking point in the harsh winter. I wanted him to return to castle black, cause honestly Jon looks to be in trouble but I don't call a story bad just because it didnt play out the way I wanted.
Soyongdori
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Is it safe to say we will probably never see Brotherhood without Banners for the rest of the show?
I don't know. Beric Dondarrion might serve some purpose down the line. The Lord of Light keeps bringing him back for some reason.
lastplayed
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For fuck's sake, it's a fantastical television series. Some people are taking it way too seriously and you are one of them with posts like that.
I also disagree with Arya's storyline being irrelevant, it's clearly building to something.
The show has long given certain characters climaxes and certain characters "builders" each season. Mainly from the second season on; I can see the argument that the first was trying to do climaxes with everybody. But even then, I'm not sure I'd agree with that sentiment, if only for the number of characters who were "just there" and then blossomed starting the following year.
Arya's fifth season is a builder. She's had more climactic seasons in the past.
Arya's fifth season is a builder. She's had more climactic seasons in the past.
Most of the fighting in episode 8 felt and looked visceral, exciting, and professionally choreographed, whereas the combat in episode 8 felt and looked much cheaper and poorly choreographed to me. I mean, just look at this shit:
Whoever's responsible for the awesomeness of episode 8's fight scenes needs to be used for all of the upcoming fight scenes.
Erm, Jorah was still totally within his i-frames, which is why the spear dude didn't even bother to attack.
Unfortunately, he wasn't expecting an attack out of that roll, which was indeed a rookie mistake, should've side stepped, and get a free backstab.
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I can deal with Jorah roll. I mean, it's silly and looks goofy, but whatever. Much like mixed CGI quality stuff like this is a vessel for narrative and unless it's really obnoxiously terrible both in choreography and narrative purpose then I don't mind.
Sand Snakes vs Jamie/Bronne was a total clusterfuck of failure though.
Sand Snakes vs Jamie/Bronne was a total clusterfuck of failure though.
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