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Theory B. Jon warged into Ghost...Wolf King Cometh
Jon Snow to make a return as Damocles
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Jon Snow to make a return as Damocles
There is a deleted scene i think from last season? It shows him interacting with Tywin, Tywin asks before addressing him if he would quit the old man act out and if he truly believes anyone actually falls for this pathetic charade. It shows him talking normally and standing up straight, saying he likes the position he's in having give council to something like 3 kings, however as anyone noticed being in the spotlight often gets that person killed. So he puts on this act while maintaining his position but never saying or doing anything that could bring too much attention to himself, watch the scene then notice all the little things he's done and said from past seasons, he's actually really smart.Someone explain to me how the old dude at the Red Keep is still alive after all these seasons. Like, he has to be the character with barely any story surrounding him yet he continues to be creepy and old and live forever.
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This motherfucker.
LegendofDragoonLives
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It took Jon until season 5 to rise to power and he was learning along the way though... He's still not careful, a general Stark problem that all of them share other than (to a degree Arya and Sansa). The political game is something every Stark other than Sansa lacks.
I have a feeling they are setting it up as Cersei killing her own children. Got her husband killed, her son rose to power early and died. Asked Jaime to bring his daughter to him, she died. She is going to ask her son, the new King to kill the Faith Militant and they will die in the process. Then Tyrion is going to come by the end of season 6 to troll her.
I'm probably going to be joining the other thread next year anyway since I want to read the books finally, but this is a bad idea.
Do you really think people who just watch the show want to sit through constant arguments on differences between the show and shit they've never read, because that's what the thread will be. Sure, maybe they're not going to get spoiled, but the thread will be a mess and won't cater to the talking they actually will want.
That Qyborn guy resurrected him. He was the big hulking dude with Cersei at the end. He's been talking about fixing him up since Oberyn poisoned him.
iNvid02
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it was a good disguise
he was still alive (barely) after the oberyn duel, and the maester who had him on his operating table throughout the season seems to have revived him in a sense
Qyburn spent all season reviving the Mountain after Oberyn poisoned him, and this is the result.
This isn't a democracy.
This isn't a democracy.
Shuggananas
Banned
Only the Tyrells and Martells come out on top. Greyjoys arguably too I guess, could be worse for them.
Mountain died(?) and Maester Qyburn (sp?) was experimenting on him Frankenstein style. I guess he's more of a Franken-Mountain than a Zombie Mountain.
soundscream
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How did you miss the giant who picked Cersi up?
Yup, those two.
Some dude read the wikipage entry of the books and decided to just post that on a facebook group I was part of because of college.
Assholes is the right word.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
Who else thinks that the first target Cersei is gonna sick her new Zombie Mountain pet on is that creepy ass nun that kept bullying her into confessing with that damn ladel??? You know the one Cersei threatened by saying her's was the last face she'll ever see?
I can't wait
I can't wait
iNvid02
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I don't see mrycella surviving even if they turn the ship around and sail back to Dorne. Tommen's rule has felt like it was running on a timer, if he gets dethroned or dies it wouldnt be a shock.
What I wanna know is how this will impact Cersei - will the death of most, if not all of her children truly break her, or will it invigorate her lust for revenge? With robo-mountain at her side she could bring back the Lannister threat we've been lacking since Tywin died.
#ALannisteralwayspayshisdebts.
what if he returns as someone, or something else. they would be right technically.
hes not Jon Snow, hes Jon Fire
Theory B. Jon warged into Ghost...Wolf King Cometh
hmmm...possible, but Kit and HBO's producers all said very point blank: "Jon Stark is dead, and he's not coming back."
LegendofDragoonLives
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Game of Boltons, haters gonna hate but my boy Ramsay survived. The Boltons got completely shafted along with Brienne these last couple episodes. There is literally like 3 minutes of screen time between them over the past 2 episodes of the season. Ramsay is gonna take 20 men and infiltrate Stannis's camp, we dont even see him just some tents get lit on fire. then we see him after a battle killing a stragler.
I'm betting all my coins to Cersei unleashing her wrath on those cult. Then to Dorne for killing her daughter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAyCpREHf6k
"eyes you will shut forever"
: OOOOO
yeah for sure there is more to it next season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNIuXV2gLwE
"eyes you will shut forever"
: OOOOO
yeah for sure there is more to it next season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNIuXV2gLwE
TimeEffect
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Why did the cult let her go though? Arent they taking over?
Succinct Verbosity
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Oh wow.
Shuggananas
Banned
Of course they wouldn't say it if they planned to rez him next season... geez
That was more an easter egg for readers than anything
It just doesn't make sense to not bring him back. I know they said that, but I'm not buying it.
Also now that Stannis and his family are gone, I wonder what will become of Davos? Will he be forgotten and added to the stillrowingboat.jpg? I really liked his character, one of the few good dudes in GoT, which means he will probably die in some shitty way.
ebullientprism
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It feels like the show is closing in.
Stannis is done. Lannister house is done with the exception of Tommen and he isnt gonna be a threat. Starks are done as a legit contender to the throne. There is no one left.
Feels like next season is Dany sailing back and taking the throne and then a battle with the white walkers.
Stannis is done. Lannister house is done with the exception of Tommen and he isnt gonna be a threat. Starks are done as a legit contender to the throne. There is no one left.
Feels like next season is Dany sailing back and taking the throne and then a battle with the white walkers.
Do you think they would tell you if he was alive or coming back?
Or they could just be telling the truth...geeeeeeezzz
they could had easily just avoided answering the question. It's very possible that Jon is as dead as Ned....or it's possible he warged into Ghost. I don't know, either way.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
There are no good guys left
Damn, looking back at the entire season, I'm only just realising how bad everything with the Sand Snakes was.
At first I could excuse their awful plan as anger/grief making them lash out at the only 'Lannister' in sight. But then the whole Jaime plot happened, and yet they still went through with the original plan when they could have just tried to kill him instead? Surely he's more responsible for what happened?
The conversation in the library just felt like a very forced way of keeping the focus on Myrcella in order to kill off an expendable character, rather than the one that made the most sense.
ComputerBlue
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Body double though.
Man, what an episode. A lot of stuff happened, and some things were handled a little bit clumsy (The battle for Winterfell and Stannis "death" to be more precise), but the shocking deaths and events made more than up for that. I loved the episode even though I hated what was happening, in that typical GoT style 
All in all, the season was defiantly not the strongest, a lot of slow episodes with nothing happening, but it was still far from bad. Can't wait for the next season, but I am afraid I will have too
Oh, and all you guys saying that the night watch deserves to be buried underneath the wall now: I am with you, but please let ser Davos escape first. together with Tyrion he is one of the only truly good characters still left on the show now.
All in all, the season was defiantly not the strongest, a lot of slow episodes with nothing happening, but it was still far from bad. Can't wait for the next season, but I am afraid I will have too
Oh, and all you guys saying that the night watch deserves to be buried underneath the wall now: I am with you, but please let ser Davos escape first. together with Tyrion he is one of the only truly good characters still left on the show now.
Kit recently cut his hair, it was in his contract that he couldn't. Jon Snow dead, confirmed.
lol
Tommen is gonna die. I'm not even spoilering that. Just by the old witches tale that Cersei as a young girl got her future foretold. 2 of her kids are dead and one more to seal the foretelling. Tyrion seems likely to be the last Lannister to survive.
Someone explain this to me like I'm 5. I just don't understand what Ellara Sand's plan is. Oberyn volunteered to fight; Oberyn let his emotions distract him, and Oberyn died. Marcella is no longer a Lannister, but a freaking Martell. How does killing her avenge Oberyn? It pretty much dishonours his memory, as we know he wouldn't have agreed with this. What about her nephew who loves this girl, and respecting her Prince who has told her to cut this shit out?
Is she expecting a war? What invading army can take Dorne, or does she want Dorne to invade the rest of Westeros? I hope to fucking God that Doran had the foresight to have a guard or two with anti poison medicine. That scene where he says, "we need to keep them safe" makes me hope that the Prince had a contingency plan for this. For some reason I'm more pissed over Marcella potentially being dead than Jon. They telegraphed Jon being fucked by the Nights Watch all season, but the Marcella thing makes no logical sense to me.
Is she expecting a war? What invading army can take Dorne, or does she want Dorne to invade the rest of Westeros? I hope to fucking God that Doran had the foresight to have a guard or two with anti poison medicine. That scene where he says, "we need to keep them safe" makes me hope that the Prince had a contingency plan for this. For some reason I'm more pissed over Marcella potentially being dead than Jon. They telegraphed Jon being fucked by the Nights Watch all season, but the Marcella thing makes no logical sense to me.
Black Republican
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man at the beginning of the season it looked like Stannis had it all planned out and shit
oh how the mighty have fallen
oh how the mighty have fallen
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
They meet through the flames of the funeral pyre...C'mon guys Jon Snu can't be dead yet.
Brienne, Tyrion, the rebirth of Theon, Samwell, Arya, Bran.
Jin Snew and The Hound if they return, and of course:
Ramsay muthafuckin Bolton.
Benzychenz
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I'm annoyed at the amount of cliffhangers this episode and how everything feels like a setup for season 6 rather than its own thing.
Arya's blind now.... so what happens next?
Sansa and Theon are escaping.... so are they successful?
These Dothraki that found Danaerys.... are they going to take her prisoner or join her?
At least Stannis and Jon's deaths wrapped up their arcs, these other plotlines feel like they're still halfway through a season.
Arya's blind now.... so what happens next?
Sansa and Theon are escaping.... so are they successful?
These Dothraki that found Danaerys.... are they going to take her prisoner or join her?
At least Stannis and Jon's deaths wrapped up their arcs, these other plotlines feel like they're still halfway through a season.
Scully Scully Scoo
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holy shit that last episode was amazing. 1 thing i dont understand, have a boltons army been wiped out during the fight with stannis? because u see dead horses everywhere and it seems everyone killed each other
i didnt see the death of john snow coming, not this soon. and cercsi with the walk of shame lmao that was hilarious. what an end to the season
i didnt see the death of john snow coming, not this soon. and cercsi with the walk of shame lmao that was hilarious. what an end to the season
Isn't this every GoT episode ten ever since the series started?
Captain.Falafel
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In part because this show takes any and every opportunity to show violence (and nudity), and gratuitously at that. Between burning a child alive and torturing Theon for the best part of a season, I don't see them allowing a key character who has been with us since the start to be killed off screen. It's not how the show has done things.
It's been deliberately left unresolved. I've never touched any of the books but I'd venture to guess it's unresolved there, too. Otherwise the way it was shot just doesn't add up.
So Dany is a bad guy? See Davos is a bad guy? Prince Doran is a bad guy? What about Tyrion, Greater Worm, Bran, Arya, etc?
B-But she have a flying mount now
ThoseDeafMutes
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I didn't miss him, I mean I didn't understand why people were referring to him as a zombie, I literally don't recall maester experimenting as people are pointing out here.
Benzychenz
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I don't know I feel like last season wrapped stuff up better.
Like Tyrion fled King's Landing but at least he took out Tywin on the way and it showed him actually properly escaping, compared to Sansa jumping off a fucking wall when for all we know she breaks her leg and Ramsay captures her 5 minutes into season 6 and flays her for the next 7 episodes.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
You could see his skin looks grey and dead.
CountAntonius
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I get the foreshadowing but what purpose would it serve to bring Jon back? The north is now lost. Nightwatch and Boltons have won. To me it's clear that Stannis and Jon were the only hope for it and now they are gone. Sansa has escaped and the Whitewalkers are just going to tear through the north and destroy the watch and the Boltons. That will be their end and the white walkers will meet resistance when they hit the south after some more politics and war between the houses.
Melisandre is a fraud. The lord of light is a fraud. In the words of Sir Davos soldiers win wars and this proved it. Can Jon come back? Sure but I don't see the purpose.
Melisandre is a fraud. The lord of light is a fraud. In the words of Sir Davos soldiers win wars and this proved it. Can Jon come back? Sure but I don't see the purpose.
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