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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 5 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]

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zugzug

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You definitely see Jon Snow's eyes dilate, which is what happens when people die. A nice touch that a lot of movies ignore.

A Master Ninja is confirmed a serial murderer or a Autopsy man! *I'm afraid and takes more than two steps away from A Master Ninja* A Master Ninja is your nickname Ducky are you skinny and British?
 
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Shit I made this post earlier then forgot about it.

They're all a bunch of murdering assholes.

Most of them are just there because they were recruited from prisons.

That makes sense actually. I forget that even though the Watch is supposed to instill honor on them, they're all a bunch of criminals and barely anyone chose to be there.

Because they could. Without Sam there, there was nobody to oppose, plus they've kinda been wanting to do it since day one.

Just because they could doesn't mean they would or should. Crows turning against their own, let alone the Lord Commander? I know that there's no one around to enforce it, but it would be a crime if there were a king who gave a shit.

Because the free folks killed men of the watch? Thus, in their mind, Jon let brothers die in favor for the free folks. Don't see why this is strange, really. The free folks even slaughtered everyone Olly knew.

But Jon wasn't the one who killed those men, and it wasn't like Jon was even happy or excited about having to fight with the Wildlings; he was doing it because it was the decision that wouldn't get them all killed once the Walkers show up at the Wall.

I think the pertinent issue they were trying to play up was Jon going to form an alliance with the Wildlings and bring them back south of the wall, plus having lost men in the process. The weird thing is, they said they lost Crows in that battle, but it looked like most of them made it back (there were only a handful). The rest of the Watch must know that Jon didn't "sacrifice" the men; it was something that happened and no one could have predicted it. They couldn't have lost more than 2 or 3 men, anyway.

What I'm really getting at is that it was an overblown response to what was a wise decision, even if it soured a few people.

I haven't been following this thread much, so not sure if this theory has been brought up yet, but...

I think Jon Snow was killed off for plot reasons. He's so insistent about not breaking his oath to the Night's Watch, but now that he died, he kept his oath and is no longer bound by it. Melisandre realizes Stannis is not the Warrior of Light, but somehow realizes the Warror of Light is actually Jon Snow, she then revives Jon, proclaims him the true Warrior of Light, and Jon can do what he wants, now that he's no longer bound by his oath.

I'm curious to see what happens. I don't think Jon is really dead dead just yet, either. Warg or undead - those are the two theories bouncing around in my head.
 

Speevy

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Perfect is a strong word, Vikings are really overrated and Spartacus is just soap opera porn IMO... Rome is at GoT lvl though, at least S1.

People who dislike season 2 talk a whole pile of nonsense.

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Don't chide me Cornballer. I can't avoid a Rome discussion.
 
I think a lot of people who think that JS is really dead are totally ignoring a HUGE hint. If you look closely you can see his eye slightly shift, just before the credits roll. Some people seem to think it's just a lighting change, but if you look at it closely, it could only have been on purpose.

I made a short video that shows just how clear it actually is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjRjbOFgGiI

It might be subtle, but I think it's an unmistakable sign that we're going to see him back next season.

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Unless people's teeth can morph, it's just a clear photoshop
 

UrbanRats

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Perfect is a strong word, Vikings are really overrated and Spartacus is just soap opera porn IMO... Rome is at GoT lvl though, at least S1.

Vikings is amazing, better than GoT, in my opinion.
i do share the Rome love, tho, so i won't hate your post too much.
 

Inglip

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People who dislike season 2 talk a whole pile of nonsense.

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Don't chide me Cornballer. I can't avoid a Rome discussion.

I don´t dislike it, I just think that season 1 is slightly better - S2 still rocks, I love how they were able to pick up Caesars´ and
Niobes´
departure in the best way possible!

Vikings is amazing, better than GoT, in my opinion.
i do share the Rome love, tho, so i won't hate your post too much.

Thanks for hate-reduction! Vikings are a good show - I just didn´t like one-dimensional characters (big bad chief, sleeper agent evil brother, obligatory cool BFF), you don´t see that shit on Rome or GoT. Apart from that, I like it.

+ coolest intro ever
 

UrbanRats

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I don´t dislike it, I just think that season 1 is slightly better - S2 still rocks, I love how they were able to pick up Caesars´ and
Niobes´
departure in the best way possible!



Thanks for hate-reduction! Vikings are a good show - I just didn´t like one-dimensional characters (big bad chief, sleeper agent evil brother, obligatory cool BFF), you don´t see that shit on Rome or GoT. Apart from that, I like it.

+ coolest intro ever
Have you seen all three seasons of Vikings? Because that sounds very reductionist of character motivations, unless you've seen only season 1.
 

Inglip

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Have you seen all three seasons of Vikings? Because that sounds very reductionist of character motivations, unless you've seen only season 1.

I´ve seen only S1 and bits of S2, didn´t feel like going further - I have to catch up. I hereby renounce all claims of it being overrated because of my lack of information.

Still overrated and one-dimensional

Anyways, we should get back to GoT. Do you think that Iron Bank will back up Danny now? It´s their only choice. They gambled real bad.
 

Kvik

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Anyways, we should get back to GoT. Do you think that Iron Bank will back up Danny now? It´s their only choice. They gambled real bad.

I must say, backing up Stannis was a bad business deal. They'll probably foreclose Dragonstone now.
 

Vashetti

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Reminder that Stannis was only given half the money he needed, a sort of 'test' investment.

This wasn't stated on the show, but mentioned by Bryan Cogman in a post-show interview.
 

Sword Familiar

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I don't think I trust Varys enough to call him "good". He's an opportunist, like Littlefinger, but their methods and current allegiences are different. He only does what he thinks will benefit him in the long run.
 
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