Jibbajabbawockky
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[ASoS MAJOR spoilers]
Maybe. The thing for me with the RW, is that its not just Robb getting taken out but also Cat. I think a lot of people can see the writing on the wall that Robb isn't doing too hot and the Frey's might be pissed with him. That's more or less the same as the books set things up- losing Karstark's support, having him ominously name an heir before going to the Twins, Grey Wind acting strange and leaving him behind and so forth. But the books do a decent job of having Robb plan the attack on Moat Cailan after the wedding, like the show is seemingly setting up his attack on Casterly Rock. In the book, that made me think the ominous foreshadowing regarding going to meet Frey and the Wedding was possibly a red herring.
So, the shock from the RW isn't just that Robb gets killed. Its that he is brutally killed and dies a pretty slow death- peppered by crossbow bolts then stabbed with his mother watching him slowly die only to be stabbed through the chest. Coupled with Robb's other people getting cut down- Dacey taking an axe to the gut, the Smalljon fighting guys off with a leg of lamb only to be decapitated. Its just madness. Its not some stealthy assassination by poisoning or some limited hit on Robb. Its just slaughter. And then Cat dying was the most shocking thing for me since she is somewhat of a bystander- and her POV death in the books is equally as brutal, what with her killing Jinglebell out of desperation and mentally snapping and clawing at her face, getting her throat slit and so forth. Add in how her body is dumped in the river and Robd decapitated and Grey Wind's head sown on. That's disgusting and brutal waaaaay beyond Ned's death. Who knows if the show goes that far though.
The RW puts you in a pretty negative mood, but I do feel like things balanced out once the Purple Wedding occurs and then Tywin takes a dump at the end. But its also great that the book leaves that up in the air for a while to sweat over whether any Lannisters will get their comeuppance.
I do wonder how they're going to have Talisa factor into the RW. Will they leave her behind like Jeyne in the books, so Robb doesn't offend Frey? Or will they come up with some reason for Robb to bring her along?
So, the shock from the RW isn't just that Robb gets killed. Its that he is brutally killed and dies a pretty slow death- peppered by crossbow bolts then stabbed with his mother watching him slowly die only to be stabbed through the chest. Coupled with Robb's other people getting cut down- Dacey taking an axe to the gut, the Smalljon fighting guys off with a leg of lamb only to be decapitated. Its just madness. Its not some stealthy assassination by poisoning or some limited hit on Robb. Its just slaughter. And then Cat dying was the most shocking thing for me since she is somewhat of a bystander- and her POV death in the books is equally as brutal, what with her killing Jinglebell out of desperation and mentally snapping and clawing at her face, getting her throat slit and so forth. Add in how her body is dumped in the river and Robd decapitated and Grey Wind's head sown on. That's disgusting and brutal waaaaay beyond Ned's death. Who knows if the show goes that far though.
The RW puts you in a pretty negative mood, but I do feel like things balanced out once the Purple Wedding occurs and then Tywin takes a dump at the end. But its also great that the book leaves that up in the air for a while to sweat over whether any Lannisters will get their comeuppance.
I do wonder how they're going to have Talisa factor into the RW. Will they leave her behind like Jeyne in the books, so Robb doesn't offend Frey? Or will they come up with some reason for Robb to bring her along?
