Robb Stark screws Telisa for the entire episode while his men wait for orders on the battlefield.
At the end of the episode, he says "That was awesome! Now let's attend a wedding!"
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Robb Stark screws Telisa for the entire episode while his men wait for orders on the battlefield.
At the end of the episode, he says "That was awesome! Now let's attend a wedding!"
EDIT: NVM. I read that incorrectly.
FWIW, TVBT#'s is saying total ratings with the repeat came out to 5.95.
Forsaken82
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NBA playoffs as well?
lol maybe those NBA themed promos really did backfire on them?
Probably didn't help that the Survivor finale was on, too. I watched that live, saving GoT until later.
Finally managed to watch it today. Tywin and Joffrey in the same room yeeees! Been waiting for ages for that scene. Tywin hardly even bowed haha.
Brilliant episode again, Oona and Richard nekkid... totally would. Both, at the same time.
I've got no real complaint, this season is very good so far.
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Brilliant episode again, Oona and Richard nekkid... totally would. Both, at the same time.
I've got no real complaint, this season is very good so far.
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The only thing I don't get is showing Theons torture every episode. What's the point?
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I don't know why you would spoiler that since his arc has been happening for weeks now. That being said, Theon has only visibly been tortured 3 times. Once in the beginning for a few seconds on his foot.. then the scene with his finger.. and this most recent scene. I don't get how people are calling this overkill.. or how they can't comprehend how it's purpose is two fold: establish BOY as an insane madman and a real villain for people to hate; and to establish the reason for Theon's eventual ADWD
mental and physical transformation in the upcoming season.
Pai Pai Master
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The point is that his transformation into Reek wouldn't have nearly as much impact unless the audience is fully aware of how much he went through. How else would they explain to the viewer why Theon is suddenly an unrecognizable, beaten down decrepit named Reek, looking more like an old man than the son of Balon Greyjoy?
There is no "Reek" in the show prior to Theon's change, so the audience doesn't have anything to go by to know just how far he's fallen when he re-emerges from the Dreadfort.
There is no "Reek" in the show prior to Theon's change, so the audience doesn't have anything to go by to know just how far he's fallen when he re-emerges from the Dreadfort.
There's a reason that the books don't have 3+ chapters that are "and then Theon got tortured some more." They are entirely unnecessary.
You do realize that books and television are completely different mediums, correct? Writing for one is not the same as writing for the other. You can't just show up next season and say "Hey, this guy tortured Theon while you were away. Hate him." It's more effective to show it. I find it hard to believe that people find these 3-5 minute scenes with Theon to be "overkill" or "too much". Like honestly, get a grip. Or admit that you have a weak stomach.
Not really. I find out who the torturer is and honestly it was a big, that's it? They didn't need to build it up so much.
It was his screams for mercy that did it for me.
Holy shit, what!?!?
Of course they are. That doesn't change the fact that these scenes are accomplishing nothing except being torture porn with a bit normal porn, in this most recent case.
We already know that Theon's captor is a fucked up horrible guy that loves to mess with his captive. We saw that in their first interaction where he broke him out, killed his own men, and then led him right back. Those scenes were great. We found out about this new character and even got some development from Theon as well. The rest of these scenes have just been the same iteration on "Theon thinks he's out of the woods... oh no he isn't! Torture!"
Edit: Okay, you added some more.
Writing for one is not the same as writing for the other. You can't just show up next season and say "Hey, this guy tortured Theon while you were away. Hate him." It's more effective to show it. I find it hard to believe that people find these 3-5 minute scenes with Theon to be "overkill" or "too much". Like honestly, get a grip. Or admit that you have a weak stomach.
I'll admit there is some value in seeing the physical horrificness of it all at least once. The finger flaying last episode did that. But we've had fairly involved scenes with Theon in these last two episodes and gotten exactly no progression except his increasing mutilation.
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Welcome to the Dany subplot. Enjoy your stay, and enjoy coming to hate that stupid character.
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Judging from people's reactions, I think they're accomplishing the goal of making people sympathetic to Theon. You're getting a lot of "Theon is shit, but no one deserves this" reactions. I don't think you could get this response without seeing much of what happens to him. The pity people feel for him will only strengthen his ADWD arc.
Jedeye Sniv
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I thought they would make him annul it or something.
I think it makes the RW a little less fucked up if Robb isn't the groom. Killing the guy on his wedding day when he's marrying some dull Frey and leaving his love behind for honour was a double kick in the balls, it's so deliciously tragic
Was he not married to The Lannister girl in the book?
bodyofanamerican
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Regarding your spoiler, did you mean a longer period of time than you originally stated? I already feel like they're rushing it with him. If
He's Reek for the next two seasons, or fully transformed by the end of this season
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Robb is married to Talisa and Jeyne, he doesn't give that up. He attends Edmure's wedding as the King, but the only one getting married to a Frey is Edmure.
On the show it seems that Robb is taking Talisa with him to the wedding. In the book he left his wife behind as to not offend Lord Frey, but that's it.
On the show it seems that Robb is taking Talisa with him to the wedding. In the book he left his wife behind as to not offend Lord Frey, but that's it.
I'm a bit confused as to what you are asking. ASOS:
In the books Robb is married to Jeyne Westerling, breaking the vow he made to wed Walder Frey's daughter. This pissed off Frey, so as a compromise they decide to have Edmure marry a Frey daughter. This marriage is the Red Wedding. Robb was never going to annul his marriage or anything. The only thing different about this scenario in the show is that Robb is married to Talysa instead of Jeyne, otherwise it's pretty much identical. The Red Wedding was never Robb's wedding, it was always Edmure's.
No, sorry. A few seconds of them maiming his foot (though it's covered, so you don't actually see it), about 5 seconds of them flaying his PINKY FINGER, and SUGGESTING that they are castrating him are NOT torture porn. You act like these are scenes out of the Hostel movies or something. If you can't see that they're trying to make Theon sympathetic to viewers, and make Boy into someone the audience knows to hate*, then I don't know what else to say to you.
* ..and yes they do have to do that. When you have casual viewers asking if that's Podrick and why is he doing that to Theon, then yes.. they need to establish the character in this way.
Theon doesn't have to be in every episode. I don't enjoy watching torture--this is an example where some restraint would be appreciated. I don't need to see two naked girls for 5 minutes to understand that getting your dick removed is not a fun time.
Show him being tortured in one episode, then revisit him 5 episodes later. Imply that he's had finger and toes removed off screen, then have R cut off his dick. We can fill in the blanks.
Show him being tortured in one episode, then revisit him 5 episodes later. Imply that he's had finger and toes removed off screen, then have R cut off his dick. We can fill in the blanks.
NathanMcMahon
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That source is shit as they couldn't even spell the producer's name remotely correct.
Morrigan Stark
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Yeah, I agree this would have been better.
Ingueferroque
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The CG at the end of Episode 7 was incredible. It looked real to me damnit.
But outside of that, and daenerys' story.. the pacing has just gone to hell in the last couple of episodes. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere fast. The torture scenes are also overkill.
But outside of that, and daenerys' story.. the pacing has just gone to hell in the last couple of episodes. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere fast. The torture scenes are also overkill.
bodyofanamerican
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Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. That's perfect to extend to a multi-episode arc. AND series
a great way to bring back a broken, angry and forgotten Dagmer from season 2
Exactly. I didn't mind the scenes so far but the point that he's being broken was made already. As much as I love to see Iwan Rheon acting this character, another long torture scene in the following episode(s) will be excessive and won't make for interesting television.
bodyofanamerican
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All this complaining about Theon's torture just reeks of being too sensitive.
Steelyuhas
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If you're referring to the bear that's because it was a real bear.
Not really, I just wondered where that is going but you guys are making good points.
WTH THE BEAR WAS REAL??
Morrigan Stark
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Duane Cunningham
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Yeah, you're definitely mis-remembering the books. [ASOS]
Robb doesn't have to marry anyone at the Twins, it's just Edmure like in the show
Yes, Bart the Bear is a real bear. http://www.ibtimes.com/bart-bear-steals-show-latest-episode-game-thrones-1255199
Morrigan Stark
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I don't know why this article, or IMDB, says Bart is "uncredited". He had a credit "page" to himself!
Bart died.
That was Little Bart.
lol True. But this one is known as the Bart the Bear now.
Steelyuhas
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Yeah they actually filmed that scene in LA because Bart doesn't travel!
You try getting a bear through the TSA scanner.
I know it is confusing. :S
Yeesh. Who does he think he is? Christopher Lee??
Steelyuhas
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lol
I thought Bart did a tremendous job.
I only saw the episode last night, and had already read some impressions that said he looked like he was pulling his punches. Wrong. Those people clearly didn't appreciate the subtle nuances of Bart's movements. He had the poise, the purpose, and the personality to pull it all off. Bart, if you are reading this, don't listen to the haters.
I only saw the episode last night, and had already read some impressions that said he looked like he was pulling his punches. Wrong. Those people clearly didn't appreciate the subtle nuances of Bart's movements. He had the poise, the purpose, and the personality to pull it all off. Bart, if you are reading this, don't listen to the haters.
Morrigan Stark
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LOL
He is too pretty. I was expecting an ugly bear, but they give us this Hollywood homely type. Nobody will believe this is a real bear.
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