Trojita
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With a morning star yes. Do you know nothing about armed arts? A capable warrior in one weapon might be pretty good in another one, but that does not make one a master of that weapon.
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With a morning star yes. Do you know nothing about armed arts? A capable warrior in one weapon might be pretty good in another one, but that does not make one a master of that weapon.
Why doesn't she use a morningstar as her preferred weapon if she surely is so much more proficient with that than a sword?
Trojita
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Don't ask me, ask Brienne of Tarth. My guess is that a sword is much better at deflecting attacks when needed to defend their lord or king as a Knight. A Morningstar is for a melee. Plus I would think a sword might be easier to travel with sheathed, and is the norm in Westeros.
Well, for one thing, no, I don't know much about armed arts, I was honestly asking.
Second, I'm just saying, like Eidan, that while she uses a Morningstar in her duel against Loras, it doesn't mean that it's her regular/favored weapon. It's the one time (that I know of) where she uses a Morningstar, but other than that it's safe to assume she's a swordswoman.
I don't think an MS would give her a tactical advantage to the same extent that (ASOS)
the Viper's spear gave him an advantage over the giant, sluggish Mountain
Cpt.Underpants
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Eh, I'm still not convinced that Brienne isn't a better swordsman than Loras. She survived a 116 man melee and bested one of the most revered knights in the Seven Kingdoms. I find it hard to believe her skills would depreciate so vastly from a morningstar to a sword.
It seems like your criteria for saying someone is a better swordsman than Brienne hinges entirely on whether anyone, at any time, has mentioned that character's abilities with a sword, in the positive.
heliosRAzi
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This is the nerdiest conversation ever.
Goku vs. Superman isn't too far off.
crimzonflame
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Was the part where Lady Stark talks about Jon Snow in the latest episode in the book as well?
I felt dirty the whole way through.
@crimzonflame: no, it was not. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those additions were made because of things that will happen/be said in the 6th book. After all, Benioff and Weiss are aware of plot developments that nobody else besides George Martin is aware of.
Oh shit. I saw something that will likely only further aggravate book readers.
Character name...
Brynden Tully will just go by "Blackfish" Tully...and doesn't remember his name. Huh.
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Hm, that is interesting. How often is he actually referred to as Ser Brynden?
Edit: right, sorry. [SOS, minor character name stuff]
That line didn't seem very literal to me. Like they may never refer to his name in the show, but he doesn't actually not know his own name.
heliosRAzi
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Seems innocuous
heliosRAzi
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Fuck it, Blackfish Tully will probably not be called Ser Brynden
My hope is that they do that this season. I love
Psychopath Arya
No. And I, for one, thought it was brilliant. I love the books, but screw the book purists!
Seems fine to me. Show watchers still get confused by Danaerys' "Stormborn" nickname. Better to stick with one name for the guy than 2, and Blackfish is a heck of a lot easier to remember then Brynden.
I agree. With some viewers still not sure who Jon Snow is, and some believing that Dany's name is "Khaleesi", I think it's a smart move.
heliosRAzi
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Brynden probably sounds too much like Brandon, so they're going to go with Blackfish. Blackfish sounds cooler anyway
This sentence right here man, making me lol. You guys realize we are talking about a fictional world and fictional characters? Brienne is only ever shown to be one of the more capable fighters in the series AND book. She is never discussed as such in-world/fiction for the simple reason she is a woman.
Steelyuhas
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I thought he said that he's been called Blackfish so long that "others" have forgotten his real name, not that he forget his own name.
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Steelyuhas
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Speaking of which, no Varys in the first two episodes of this season. Hopefully that changes this week.
Morrigan Stark
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Meh. I thought it was kinda stupid and out of character for Stannis, but I didn't care that much.
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True, and Astapor was also awesome with Daenerys. ASoS has a lot of mega-awesome moments. Littlefinger murdering Lysa was also pretty epic. But I think the RW is, in a way, underrated.
I know, how can it be underrated when everyone harps on about it? Well, it seems that everyone focuses on the fact that "omg the Starks die" and little else. But to me it's much more than that, it's the details that make the Red Wedding such an amazing scene, and few people ever talk about those details. For example, how it was so heavily foreshadowed, constantly; Daenerys's vision in the House of the Undying, the Ghost of High Heart pretty much describing it literally, Cat's instinct about asking for hospitality and keeping Grey Wind around, Roslin crying all the time, Tywin and Tyrion discussing the Reynes and the Tarbecks and Tywin being all confident about the Westerlings, etc. And yet it still managed to surprise and shock pretty much everyone. That's a sign of brilliant writing, right there.
Furthermore, the scene itself is just superbly written, with the rebuff of Dacey Mormont asking for a dance, then the chaotic music followed by the Rains of Castamere song, then Catelyn feeling the chain mail under the shirt... I don't know why, but that gets me every time. That and the line about how she was just worried about Robb and not about herself and didn't care if they raped, tortured or killed her. "She had lived too long, and Ned was waiting." Heart-breaking, really.
I wonder how they'll capture the brilliance of that scene on screen. To their credit, Ned's execution was done very well. I hope the director for Ep #3.09 is up to it. I didn't care at all for the episodes he directed in S2 and thought they were among the worst (particularly A Man Without Honor, grr) but that was probably the writers's fault more than the director's.
I know, how can it be underrated when everyone harps on about it? Well, it seems that everyone focuses on the fact that "omg the Starks die" and little else. But to me it's much more than that, it's the details that make the Red Wedding such an amazing scene, and few people ever talk about those details. For example, how it was so heavily foreshadowed, constantly; Daenerys's vision in the House of the Undying, the Ghost of High Heart pretty much describing it literally, Cat's instinct about asking for hospitality and keeping Grey Wind around, Roslin crying all the time, Tywin and Tyrion discussing the Reynes and the Tarbecks and Tywin being all confident about the Westerlings, etc. And yet it still managed to surprise and shock pretty much everyone. That's a sign of brilliant writing, right there.
Furthermore, the scene itself is just superbly written, with the rebuff of Dacey Mormont asking for a dance, then the chaotic music followed by the Rains of Castamere song, then Catelyn feeling the chain mail under the shirt... I don't know why, but that gets me every time. That and the line about how she was just worried about Robb and not about herself and didn't care if they raped, tortured or killed her. "She had lived too long, and Ned was waiting." Heart-breaking, really.
I wonder how they'll capture the brilliance of that scene on screen. To their credit, Ned's execution was done very well. I hope the director for Ep #3.09 is up to it. I didn't care at all for the episodes he directed in S2 and thought they were among the worst (particularly A Man Without Honor, grr) but that was probably the writers's fault more than the director's.
You are correct, book-Loras is skilled with a sword but more exceptional with a lance, and the best swordsman in the family is his brother Garland.
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I don't remember anything in the books except that he was skilled with a lance, but we never head much about him even in the books that wasn't in the show (least not that I can remember). He got his ass handed to him by Gregor, but Gregor is established as one of the most formidable warriors in Westeros, so I don't think a loss to him is a reflection of his abilities.
Duane Cunningham
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Not to mention those who thought that the ruined castle that Robb and co visited in S3E1 was Winterfell.
Cpt.Underpants
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I forgot about The Blackfish and Edmure.
PhoenixDark
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Thank you lol
cj_iwakura
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ASOS
In general where Jaime's character arc goes is one of the things I like best about the series.
cj_iwakura
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Cuz sometimes the changes aren't really better.
While that's true, the show has basically decided not to use flashbacks or visions to get their thoughts and past across to the audience.
Forces them to either make changes to character paths or just find other ways to get the same general idea to the viewer.
I get that it bothers people at times, what I don't get is a lot of people complain about shit from the books just as much.
There's just no winning sometimes.
Forces them to either make changes to character paths or just find other ways to get the same general idea to the viewer.
I get that it bothers people at times, what I don't get is a lot of people complain about shit from the books just as much.
There's just no winning sometimes.
DrForester
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PhoenixDark
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Feel like an idiot asking, but who is that between Alfie and Gwendoline....
spoiler for season. Might not want to view if you want no spoilers for tv changes
Ramsay Bolton
DrForester
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Excellent, I feel better for not knowing then.
DrForester
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This is pretty much how I expect the books to end.
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