faridmon said:yes i do. Bioshock is not an FPS even though it is played from FP perspective. am I missing something?
Dude, its a fucking FPS. It isnt even an FPS/RPG like SS2 was.
faridmon said:yes i do. Bioshock is not an FPS even though it is played from FP perspective. am I missing something?
zoukka said:Did he call SDF names? Did he swear revenge by the name of the gods?
He didn't bitch. He just called out all the manbabies.
some people didn't like his review, what's he going to do?
I'm not sure what's the point of all this whole sensitive genius "8 is great in our scale" thing
DCharlie said:exercise his right to reply, just like the SDF did? :O :O :O
well, this we do agree on - you can't argue with the great mass of mongdom, so why try explaining something THAT basic to them.
DCharlie said:oh fast fingers removed the "whats the point of attacking Neogaf!" comment ... boooo.
re: review scale - that's the point, i have no idea why GAF* felt the need to attack the review in the first place.
he should know that he can't possibly win against neogaf, it's been proven.
honeymustardn said:I hate it when people have different opinions to me. What an asshole.
DCharlie said:exercise his right to reply, just like the SDF did? :O :O :O
Yeah, but said fanboys are harangued for doing so, no? Any thread with not-so-hyperbolic reviews of an exclusive will be filled with fantards bitching about opinions on one side, and other tardwarks bitching about the opinions of the opinionated. The only difference seems to be that the latter side appears to in all seriousness believe that they are somehow levitating above the mud.
They are very biased
Chris Remo said:This industry--its development, its critical body, its fanbase--is so ridiculously single-minded it's absurd.
EmCeeGramr said:my favorite color is red and i like cheddar cheese and lots of people like those things too
See, anyone can post something totally irrelevant to the thread topic.
DCharlie said:and rightly they should. Complaining about "mi mi mi it shouldn't get an 8!" ... ffs.![]()
Hey, I'm in support of anyone getting flogged. Critics, fanchimps or their opposing clown forces, flog them and flog them often.
But then I'm not known to respect the opinions of, well, anyone.
NOT GREAT ENOUGH, or HIS MAGAZINE MUST CONFIRM TO THE MEANINGLESS METACRITIC STANDARDHaunted said:Will I be flogged if I say that Uncharted 2 is great?
Because that's what he's said in his review, with his score. Uncharted 2 is great.
Gamers are dumb.
perm'dJive Turkey said:Yeah whatever happened to Wollan anyway?
I would smile if it weren't so sad to watch.Chris Remo said:NOT GREAT ENOUGH, or HIS MAGAZINE MUST CONFIRM TO THE MEANINGLESS METACRITIC STANDARD
NOT GREAT ENOUGH, or HIS MAGAZINE MUST CONFIRM TO THE MEANINGLESS METACRITIC STANDARD
Chris Remo said:NOT GREAT ENOUGH, or HIS MAGAZINE MUST CONFIRM TO THE MEANINGLESS METACRITIC STANDARD
So true -- and I've got the feeling it's getting worse and worse. The single-mindedness, the bitching about review scores / opinions, the reviewers themselves...Chris Remo said:This industry--its development, its critical body, its fanbase--is so ridiculously single-minded it's absurd. There are a couple (very few) different genre formulas for massive critical success, and if you don't follow those with a big enough budget, it's almost impossible to reach a certain level of acclaim.
Sloane said:So true -- and I've got the feeling it's getting worse and worse. The single-mindedness, the bitching about review scores / opinions, the reviewers themselves...
Fifteen years ago or so, I was really looking forward to what video games might become one day with all the technical possibilities and bigger budgets. Now, I'm starting to wonder what they could have become without all this crap.
Yeah, I've been trying to do that -- it has just become too much of a habbit, I guess, checking the forums every day, and you can't really avoid these discussions because they have spread so much. Also, I have to admit that I probably would have missed a few nice games, if it wasn't for gaming forums.AltogetherAndrews said:There is a pretty damned easy solution to that, though. Stop reading review threads, or better yet, avoid gaming forums in general.
AltogetherAndrews said:There is a pretty damned easy solution to that, though. Stop reading review threads, or better yet, avoid gaming forums in general.
Chris Remo said:Sounds like the guy has a pretty reasonable view of games and how he approaches them.
Chris Remo said:This industry--its development, its critical body, its fanbase--is so ridiculously single-minded it's absurd. There are a couple (very few) different genre formulas for massive critical success, and if you don't follow those with a big enough budget, it's almost impossible to reach a certain level of acclaim.
Chris Remo said:It's pretty frustrating for people who aren't as interested in that take on games. You feel slighted because your favorite already-successful already-popular game didn't get QUITE a high enough score? Well fuck you, there are games that don't already have tens of millions of dollars of marketing behind them that some of us find far more interesting, and yet can never reach the same level of awareness and reach simply because they aren't part of anointed subgenres.
Grooski said:Oh come on. The guy whinges about the place of cinematic linear games like U2 and MW2 in the industry and previously gives Crysis, Gears2 and Killzone2 perfect scores? So his negative views were just an epiphany that happened when the two biggest hyped games are released? Pfft. The guy had an axe to grind, got called out for it and bitches about the people bitching about him.
faridmon said:yes i do. Bioshock is not an FPS even though it is played from FP perspective. am I missing something?
One of those games is not like the othersGrooski said:Oh come on. The guy whinges about the place of cinematic linear games like U2 and MW2 in the industry and previously gives Crysis, Gears2 and Killzone2 perfect scores? So his negative views were just an epiphany that happened when the two biggest hyped games are released? Pfft. The guy had an axe to grind, got called out for it and bitches about the people bitching about him.
Grayman said:One of those games is not like the others
Grayman said:One of those games is not like the others
Empty said:It could also be that he loved Killzone 2 online, and Gears of War 2 horde mode, and because of that lauded them so highly in spite of their cinematic single player campaign direction, whereas he didn't react so positively to the online modes in UC2 and MW2, so gave them 8s. Unless you have the review text in front of you to dissect, then it is very hard to discredit someone by comparing review scores.
This action-adventure can't fool me: Uncharted 2 may look really pretty, but under the hood it's just a simple action-mix, competently stealing from the best but being as witty and original like the script of a soap opera episode. After an unbeliveably slow start that felt like the world's longest turorial (cue: museum), the tempo got better - but gameplay qualities of this wannabe Indy never match the outrageously polished and super sharp looks. For me this is 2009's most beautiful sleeping pill.
I'm just gonna make a thread about how that guy doesn't know what he's talking about to prove my point that UC2 is the best game ever. Thanks dude!El-Suave said:One of the editors of the German magazine I read had this to say about UC2 in their GOTY round up (UC2 finished 5th behind Trials HD, NSMB Wii, Cod MW2 and Assassin's Creed 2):
http://www.maniac.de/content/die-spiele-des-jahres-2009-%E2%80%93-platz-5-%E2%80%93-uncharted-2-among-thieves
This opinion makes that score of 8 seem generous. Thankfully he didn't review the game.
Chris Remo said:NOT GREAT ENOUGH, or HIS MAGAZINE MUST CONFIRM TO THE MEANINGLESS METACRITIC STANDARD
Mar said:I wonder if this type of whinging happened back before the internets. I'd be interested to hear from veteran game journalists whether they used to receive thousands of letters after a review that people didn't agree with. Because I've been reading reviews since the 80s and don't remember it being an issue until I joined a few gaming forums.
I NEED SCISSORS said:Now he knows the pain that EDGE face every waking second.
darkwings said:This. Gamereactors scale is about the same as EDGE.
darkwings said:This. Gamereactors scale is about the same as EDGE.
:lolJexhius said:Now I understand why Edge (EDGE?) reviews are anonymous, so that the reviewer doesn't get hunted down and attacked in real life.
Yeah, and obviously this didn't happen in the 80s and (most of) the 90s because there wasn't shit like metacritics to compare every review to.Mar said:I'm starting to believe the only reason this level of bitching exists is because there's so much information at hand before the game is released that people make up their mind before they've played it. And it's easy to find a group of people who feel the same way and in doing so instantly form a mob mentality.
It's all rather sad and embarrassing.
.Razor210 said:It would only be ironic if he had given it an 6.4.