FormallyMegadrive
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Game doesn't get 10/10 score by a game CRITIC. Fanboys go nuts.
Gamereactors editor in chief "I was blasted over Uncharted 2 review" + review scores
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Dr Bad Dude PHD
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2 points less if a game is PS3 exclusive?darkwings said:
damn missed the fun... 
Gamereactor.. he he.. I have been visiting the danish department on the internet for 3-4 years now. It was a great site, with lots of user interaction and fun. But last year things went down the hill.. There are 2 brothers behind the sites and the Magazines. The Reichel brothers. And they dictate clearly what way the sites are allowed to go. The danish site has had some of the best reviewers in Denmark. But they all left slowly. Many of the great users left to.. 2 months ago even the guy (Thomas Tanggaard) who is responsible for the succes of the sites left after many good years at the rudder of gamereactor.dk. He contacted all the other writers who left the site, and he has started a new gaming/music/movie site called www.hyped.nu . The site is only starting to evolve, but what is there is looking good.
The problem with Gamereactor is that they tried MANy things to get hits. They posted low scores for blockbusters (they even have a guy who posts the scores on N4G), began making graphic comparisons etc. They started the war themselves. And now they are trying to make some damage control.
They also have an english department called www.gamereactor.net . But they seem to leave the fanboy wars at the door at that site.
But back to gamereactor.dk. Last week they posted the Score for Final Fantasy XIII. They gave it 7/10 which is ok. But the written review (http://www.gamereactor.dk/anmeldelser/76914/Final+Fantasy+XIII/) did nothing to back up the reasoning behind the score. He gave the graphics 9/10 and said he reviewed the X360 version but he had also played the PS3 version. But he could not see any difference. So they made an article saying that there where no noteworthy graphical differences in the two versions. :lol
And they just gave GoW3 10/10
http://www.gamereactor.dk/anmeldelser/76956/God+of+War+III/
Reviewed by a new guy to the staff.. yeah like any decent site would give a review of one of the years most wanted games in 2010 to a new guy. :lol
Gamereactor in general has gone down the drain the last couple off years..
Gamereactor.. he he.. I have been visiting the danish department on the internet for 3-4 years now. It was a great site, with lots of user interaction and fun. But last year things went down the hill.. There are 2 brothers behind the sites and the Magazines. The Reichel brothers. And they dictate clearly what way the sites are allowed to go. The danish site has had some of the best reviewers in Denmark. But they all left slowly. Many of the great users left to.. 2 months ago even the guy (Thomas Tanggaard) who is responsible for the succes of the sites left after many good years at the rudder of gamereactor.dk. He contacted all the other writers who left the site, and he has started a new gaming/music/movie site called www.hyped.nu . The site is only starting to evolve, but what is there is looking good.
The problem with Gamereactor is that they tried MANy things to get hits. They posted low scores for blockbusters (they even have a guy who posts the scores on N4G), began making graphic comparisons etc. They started the war themselves. And now they are trying to make some damage control.
They also have an english department called www.gamereactor.net . But they seem to leave the fanboy wars at the door at that site.
But back to gamereactor.dk. Last week they posted the Score for Final Fantasy XIII. They gave it 7/10 which is ok. But the written review (http://www.gamereactor.dk/anmeldelser/76914/Final+Fantasy+XIII/) did nothing to back up the reasoning behind the score. He gave the graphics 9/10 and said he reviewed the X360 version but he had also played the PS3 version. But he could not see any difference. So they made an article saying that there where no noteworthy graphical differences in the two versions. :lol
And they just gave GoW3 10/10
http://www.gamereactor.dk/anmeldelser/76956/God+of+War+III/
Reviewed by a new guy to the staff.. yeah like any decent site would give a review of one of the years most wanted games in 2010 to a new guy. :lol
Gamereactor in general has gone down the drain the last couple off years..
Revolution number one
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Haunted said:
Didn't someone from egm get death threats for not giving chrono cross a 10?
fortified_concept
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I can accept an 8 but putting Uncharted 2 in the same basket as MW2 is just insulting.
So, he can go fuck himself.
So, he can go fuck himself.
Foxtastical
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Seriously, someone can't enjoy MW2 more than Uncharted 2? This is why we can't have nice things.fortified_concept said:
And what, why not have this guy review Uncharted 2? He has a perspective that's different from literally every other fucking review for Uncharted 2. I'd rather hear what he thought of the game rather than another 'oh god i love it' review.El-Suave said:
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fortified_concept said:
I enjoyed MW2 more than Uncharted 2. I enjoyed the singleplayer more. I enjoyed the co-op more. I enjoyed the multiplayer more.
Uncharted 2 really brings out the superiority complex I guess.
Why are there people who think reviewing is, in any way shape or form, an objective undertaking?
I played Uncharted 2 through and thought it was alright, besides the production value I didn't see much to my fancy, but I'm not offended that there are huge swaths of people falling over themselves in orgasm whenever Uncharted is mentioned.
Y'all need some perspective yo.
I played Uncharted 2 through and thought it was alright, besides the production value I didn't see much to my fancy, but I'm not offended that there are huge swaths of people falling over themselves in orgasm whenever Uncharted is mentioned.
Y'all need some perspective yo.
fortified_concept
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Stallion Free said:
Nah, it's just that MW2 is so inferior. I would say that if he compared MW2 to any game I respect. Nice to know you like playing hide and seek though.
Foxtastical
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What the hell, is MW2 inferior to Uncharted 2 on the objective-fun-o-meter?fortified_concept said:
itsinmyveins
Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
fortified_concept said:
I don't know how to respond to this. You jump in and out of cover and use some subpar type of stealth quite frequently in Uncharted 2, no?
Raist said:As far as I was aware it turned the series on its head mostly because of its control scheme and over the shoulder camera.
Fine, I'll try to grab a copy and get some time to play it.
However, if I have to fight my way through countless ennemies (not infinite, since U2 doesn't have this flaw either, but I can see his point), if the game has more than 10mins of cutscenes, and if it doesn't have mind-blowing puzzles, I'll post a LTTP thread and I'll tear the game down to pieces
Goooood luck with that, lemme know how that goes for ya!
Is there a difference between reviewing and backseat game designing?
If there isn't, I'd have to give 95% of games a 1/10.
I'm not sure but I believe a "professional critic" is suppose to consider more than just personal opinion and tastes when reviewing.
Reviews do not equal Editorials
Right?
If there isn't, I'd have to give 95% of games a 1/10.
I'm not sure but I believe a "professional critic" is suppose to consider more than just personal opinion and tastes when reviewing.
Reviews do not equal Editorials
Right?
fortified_concept
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Foxtastical said:
Don't mind me, I'm condescending like that. When I see a game with moronic AI and a variation of hide and seek of who spots whom first for multiplayer I tend to get bitchy. I'm the same way with Wii sports. Ignore me.
Foxtastical
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Sounds like you're not confident in your own opinions and interests and need to latch out on games other people enjoy in order to make yourself feel better about the ones you like.fortified_concept said:Don't mind me, I'm condescending like that. When I see a game with moronic AI and a variation of hide and seek of who spots whom first for multiplayer I tend to get bitchy. I'm the same way with Wii sports. Ignore me.
And then you'll say no, but then the question remains; why do you care so much that other people can find enjoyment in something that you can't?
fortified_concept
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itsinmyveins said:
Way to oversimplify the game. Uncharted 2 has great level design that gives variation to combat, great shooting mechanics, pretty good AI and a combination of platforming and shooting for multiplayer that makes it amazing. Before they CODtardified the health system, multiplayer offered epic fights even between only two opponents (it's still much better than MW2 though). MW2 is a shooting gallery. You spot you kill, you spot again you kill, someone spots you first because he was camping in the same place during the entire game, you get killed.
fortified_concept
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Foxtastical said:
I don't care but I do have different standards for "professional" reviewers. I didn't care enough to even go to the MW2 thread after I tried the game and hated it but when I see a professional hack gloating about the validity of his opinion I react. I mean read this fucking quote:
this man gave GTA4 a 10 for god's sake.
itsinmyveins
Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
fortified_concept said:
And you're not being reductive regarding Modern Warfare 2, huh? :lol
The variation in Uncharted 2's combat isn't really that great. You take cover, shoot, throw grenades, change weapon and then repeat. Between those arenas you do some climbing a'la Prince of Persia. Now, the game as a whole is very good and it's packaged in an impressive way with a bunch of dramatic sequences throughout the game.
I'm not at all fond of the multiplayer though and MW2 (or MW for that matter) offers a far better multiplayer experience -- imho, then. What you seem to imply is that MW2 essentially is a random game of chance unless you camp and whoever spots anyone else first wins, and that's all there is to it. I can see it not being liked by everyone but that suggestion is clearly not true.
Sho_Nuff82
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Not surprised by how this thread turned out. "But he deserved the death threats, Uncharted is teh awesome!"
Even the greatest movies and books of all time have critics who don't like them. As long as they provide their reasons, that is their right. In this case, the reviewer liked the game (a lot, even), he just didn't think it was his ideal cup of tea. Does he not have the right to state that?
UC2's multi is much better than MW2's? Am I reading this right? I'll be the first to admit that COD's SP is an insultingly linear compilation of zerg-rush corridors, but I think this is a stretch.
Even the greatest movies and books of all time have critics who don't like them. As long as they provide their reasons, that is their right. In this case, the reviewer liked the game (a lot, even), he just didn't think it was his ideal cup of tea. Does he not have the right to state that?
fortified_concept said:
UC2's multi is much better than MW2's? Am I reading this right? I'll be the first to admit that COD's SP is an insultingly linear compilation of zerg-rush corridors, but I think this is a stretch.
Revolution number one said:
They got angry letters for it because he was the only one in the group that didn't give it a 10 like the other two reviewers. He gave it a 9.5, but he practically called the game perfect and gave no reason for docking the .5 from the score.
Didn't really help his case that he turned around a couple months later and gave Gran Turismo 3 a perfect score after saying the game had numerous problems and "this game isn't perfect, but neither is a 10".
Mr. B Natural
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Well, this shithole of a thread proves this guy right. People are embarrassing.
RedNumberFive
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Mr. B Natural said:
Couldn't agree with you more. I never understood why gamers take so much stock in what numerical value "game journalists" put on a review. I know most will disagree, but I rely on Metacritic and GAF to give me a rough estimate on whether or not a game is decent, or total garbage. I could care less about a personal review,
fortified_concept
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shintoki said:
Damn PC elitists.
I was only talking about gameplay. The crappy matchmaking and usual P2P related problems are still there.
Uncharted 2 has a great narrative experience, but it is pretty linear and there is a common occurrence of relying too much on the hint system to get you through. Dying constantly in the room of spikes because it's one of the few (only?) times in the game that you can and need to destroy the environment with your weapon fire. Or the temple that's so beautiful detailed that you can't tell what you can and cannot climb.
Then again, it does have a multiplayer and co-op experience.
Then again, it does have a multiplayer and co-op experience.
No, he has to think of all the people who could like the game and write the review for them, from their point of view! (*) It's pretty easy actually, he just has to turn into a psychic, read their minds and then pretend that opinion is his own. If he doesn't, he's a moron obviously.Sho_Nuff82 said:
(*) Unless it's a game that doesn't have a huge fanbase or budget, then it's okay.
gutter_trash
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I firmly believe that 9s are tossed around too easily at big budget games to appease the wrath of publishers
remember the cold shoulder from Ubi when 1UP/EGM gave AC1 a score of 70/100 ?
it forced 1up to adapt Letter grades for review scores... now it shows up as B- on the 1up site
9s are too easily given out, I want to more 8s given to games that really 8s and no more 9s or 10s to games that are getting over-rated
remember the cold shoulder from Ubi when 1UP/EGM gave AC1 a score of 70/100 ?
it forced 1up to adapt Letter grades for review scores... now it shows up as B- on the 1up site
9s are too easily given out, I want to more 8s given to games that really 8s and no more 9s or 10s to games that are getting over-rated
Foxtastical
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I like the cut of your jib.Sloane said:
Simple as that:
Sony fanboys, and graphic lovers let a magic cast upon them, which turns the gameplay into pure gold.
Lately, most of the criticism which were pointed to games like:
-Metal Gear Solid 4
-Uncharted 2
-Killzone 2
-God of War 3
were based upon the simple observations, that, while these games look awesome, they might not always PLAY awesome. Answer to that? "But look at dem GIFZ!! 1080p, awesome, omg, omg, blind fanboy!"
It is always the same. PlayStation 3 is THE graphical powerhouse in this gen, with the proper hands, and while it does not make gameplay better by default, it can net you a lot of 9/10 reviews anywhere where reviewers did not grow up in a more gameplay-oriented era.
Sony fanboys, and graphic lovers let a magic cast upon them, which turns the gameplay into pure gold.
Lately, most of the criticism which were pointed to games like:
-Metal Gear Solid 4
-Uncharted 2
-Killzone 2
-God of War 3
were based upon the simple observations, that, while these games look awesome, they might not always PLAY awesome. Answer to that? "But look at dem GIFZ!! 1080p, awesome, omg, omg, blind fanboy!"
It is always the same. PlayStation 3 is THE graphical powerhouse in this gen, with the proper hands, and while it does not make gameplay better by default, it can net you a lot of 9/10 reviews anywhere where reviewers did not grow up in a more gameplay-oriented era.
benjipwns
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I just looked at some old Game Informers a month or so back.Mar said:
No, nothing's changed. (Well, the volume has changed, not sure the percentage has.) One issue the entire letter section was about people wanting to burn the magazine because someone said the Sega CD sucks or Mortal Kombat 2 had horrible sound on the Genesis. Or some strange flame war over multiple issues involving 32/64-bit vs 8-bit. Then there were people demanding they change the cover style back or they'd cancel their subscriptions. And...
You get the picture.
Some people are so cute around here... I've seen the "It's well reviewed so it has to has only perfect scores!"-argument flung around this thread when it comes to Uncharted 2 and God of war 3.. But when GTAIV shows up then acting all surprised? So what's the metacritic score for GTAIV again..? (Disclaimer: Just trying to make a fucking point..)
Neuromancer
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True. It is one of the best Indiana-Jones-as-a-mass-murderer games I have ever had the pleasure of playing. When I was done with that game and 1,000 some odd dead men laid at my feet, I felt that truly this was the adventure of a lifetime!!!Baki said:
Baki said:
Oh come on... I don't think any of my personal top 100 games are anywhere close to being flawless. Hell, even my favorite game of all time is several miles from being flawless. Flawlessness is unachievable, it can only exist in theory as a concept. And it's odd to see it being used by someone acting serious.
So, again, the question that got asked from the beginning; What the hell is up with some of you people?
AzureNightmare
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Baki said:
If you truly, honestly believe that then you might want to have a reality check because Uncharted 2 is no better and no worse than its predecessor. It is a good adventure yes, but it is also derivative, uninspired, and generic.
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