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Gamespot and IGN review the GOTY (Half-Life 2)
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captainbiotch
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Warm Machine said:
I read the thread up until this point, only worthy post :lol
Jeez, I guess he wouldn't have scored the original Half Life well then, cause that games story had no conclusive end either.
And of course, its quite a safe bet that this game will feature a multitude of expansions in the future. Heck, Doom 3 was just released and it already has an expansion well in the works.
And of course, its quite a safe bet that this game will feature a multitude of expansions in the future. Heck, Doom 3 was just released and it already has an expansion well in the works.
Banjo Tango
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I don't get the sarcasm... what's not impressive about this? To me it sounds incredible, both in terms of atmosphere and AI.D2M15 said:
As an aside, I have long lived in fear of the tripods.
Banjo Tango said:I don't get the sarcasm... what's not impressive about this? To me it sounds incredible, both in terms of atmosphere and AI.
As an aside, I have long lived in fear of the tripods.
If only I could post the 100 screens I'm sitting on. Won't happen, but still...got some sweet ish.
Jonnyboy117
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SELL YOUR PC, IT'S ALL OVER
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
"As an aside, I have long lived in fear of the tripods."
i just started rewatching "The Tripods" (based on the White Mountain)
but Half Life 2 reminds me of War of the Worlds more than that - more specifically, not the yee olde AWESOME H.G.Welles novel, but the art that came with the LP. the cities and lighting seem to be quite inspired by some of the inlay illustrations - which for me is awesome as i'm a big WotW nut.
The music sounds very very eerie too...
i just started rewatching "The Tripods" (based on the White Mountain)
but Half Life 2 reminds me of War of the Worlds more than that - more specifically, not the yee olde AWESOME H.G.Welles novel, but the art that came with the LP. the cities and lighting seem to be quite inspired by some of the inlay illustrations - which for me is awesome as i'm a big WotW nut.
The music sounds very very eerie too...
We'll see how it pans out, but the guy responsible for the HL2 review also reviewed Far Cry for the PC...
Like I said before, I found the game to be painfully average at best. One of the biggest problems was the AI, which this guy praised in his review of the game. Makes me wonder...
Like I said before, I found the game to be painfully average at best. One of the biggest problems was the AI, which this guy praised in his review of the game. Makes me wonder...
Emphasis on you found, because very few other people did. It remains one of the best games this year and one of the best FPS since the original Half Life.
As for Half Life 2, I wait to play it tonight before disputing this Gamespot review. It runs contrary to most reviews I've read on the game. One thing though, is how you could give the monotonous repetitive boredom of Halo a 9.7 and give HL2 with its slew of accolades lavishing its wonderful physics engine and varied gameplay a low 9.2 by comparison. Its one thing to be tough on reviews, its another to be bullshit with them. But I'll play the game before following up on this point further.
I'll never figure out why, though...
The AI is pretty awful most of the time, the game is unpolished as hell, the Trigen are awful (and can kill you from 10 feet away without ever coming any closer), the play mechanics aren't anything special, and most of the missions have a very poor flow to them. There are a few missions where the game shines, but those moments are rare.
I just can't figure out what anyone saw in the game BESIDES the visuals. I can't help but think that some people allowed the visuals to carry the game. Sneaking around in the woods was awesome because of the visuals...not because of stellar gameplay design. If the game failed to provide those visuals, I'd bet the ratings would have been a whole lot lower...
Of course, it seems to me that you're a "visual variety" kinda guy (what with that Halo bash and all). Halo's gameplay mechanics absolutely CRUSH Far Cry into the ground and provide more unique and interesting scenarios than Far Cry ever could. Oh, but Far Cry LOOKS as if it has great gameplay...
I would appreciate some reasoning as to why you love the game so much. When people spout off reasons as to why they hate Halo (and it always involves the repetitive levels), I can explain why the game was great. Can you explain what makes the GAMEPLAY of Far Cry so good? What makes it unique? Explain that to me without mentioning the visuals, as I'm quite curious...
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
by the same token, how can Halo be 9.7 when Halo 2 knocks every aspect of the original into a cocked hat, and then adds an amazingly tight implementation of online play in 9.4?
Conclusion : Scores are bullshit. they should just use a random word.
Halo = Lettuce
GTA:SA = Thimble
Halo 2 = Calculator
Half life 2 = Sheep
"NO WAY... How can Half life 2 be "Sheep"?!?! Halo was LETTUCE man, ffs!"
It really is almost that irrelevant.
Conclusion : Scores are bullshit. they should just use a random word.
Halo = Lettuce
GTA:SA = Thimble
Halo 2 = Calculator
Half life 2 = Sheep
"NO WAY... How can Half life 2 be "Sheep"?!?! Halo was LETTUCE man, ffs!"
It really is almost that irrelevant.
MightyHedgehog
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Yeah, I prefer all-text reviews, with no scores to confuse the issue so long as the review text is clearly communicated.
The only good thing about far cry's AI is that when they detect you, they don't disengage if you magically walk 50 feet away like in the deus ex games. Otherwise it's the same "enemies duck behind corners occasionally but spend most of the time charging at you and always peek out from behind a rock so you can snipe them" AI from most other games.
so if the same gamespot reviewer is going to count against HL2's AI but praise far cry's then this guy is a fucking joke.
so if the same gamespot reviewer is going to count against HL2's AI but praise far cry's then this guy is a fucking joke.
CrimsonSkies
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Looks like I"ll have to wait for Vampire Bloodlines for a good Source engine game. GameSpot has spoken.
firex said:
No, Far Cry's AI has serious detection problems...
If you stand on the other side of a river, far FAR away from any enemies, and hide inside of a cabin...one sniper shot will alert virtually everyone remotely near that area and they will all IMMEDIATELY know your location. That's just stupid and annoying. It isn't realistic and it isn't fun. The AI is way too trigger happy and really never does anything intelligent.
They SOUND intelligent at times, but if you actually watch them...they pretty much only follow their most common line and try to "shoot you in the face".
Yes, but I'd hope that any further argument will remove Halo from the discussion.
dark10x said:
well, yeah. what I was saying is the only thing about the far cry AI that isn't terrible is that they don't just give up when you run away if they find you (assuming you play sneaky like I did for most of the game). I'm not saying it was good AI, I'm just saying at least they didn't have the retarded pitfall of most other games with stealth options where they'll just all of a sudden forget you even exist because you ran past some boundary and hid behind a crate for 5 seconds. It's otherwise atrocious and built around cheating to make up for poor design, as you said.
The Shadow
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dark10x said:
I remember border recommending that I upgrade my computer to fully appreciate what FarCry has to offer. For what purpose? So it looks better? How does that make it a better game?
I did upgrade my computer and it did make it a better experience, only because the framerate was far better and easier on the eyes. It was the same exact game though, same exact gameplay regardless of how nice the graphics are.
I also don't understand the implied "openness" of Farcry. It does limit you to a path in a lot of areas, if not multiple paths but paths nonetheless. If not for water or mountain "fences" to lock you to a path, there's always a problem with being bored senseless because you missed a vehicle you were supposed to take and have to walk quite a way to a next enemy checkpoint. I call them checkpoints because that's how they feel. A pocket of enemies, travel, a pocket of enemies, rinse/repeat.
And yeah, the AI didn't really impress me all that much. It's nothing I haven't seen before anyway. You make a sound and they go into a "suspect" search just like in Deus Ex. Like fire said though, they persist a lot of the time instead of break off. OMG REVOLUTIONARY. Once your location is known, they rush right at you. It doesn't matter if you're 5 feet or 50 feet away, they know where you are the instant you fire a gun. The AI is seemingly worse when you're inside, rushing at any gunfire because of the close proximity. Of course the Trigen AI doesn't even have a "suspect" script. They're either just standing or walking around or they're charging right at you as soon as they see you.
And as technically impressive as the graphics are, I still can't shake the feeling of how generic it looks. I mean skin and bump mapping make it look nice but the creature and character designs look pretty bland and uninspired. I don't think they could have made the Trigens look any more generic. People bash the monster designs in Doom 3 but frankly I was far more disappointed with the way things looked in Farcry. It's not the tech, it's how you use it. I hate when japanophiles make fun of western design because of their short-sightedness but really, Farcry is a very good reason why those kinds of ideas persist.
Overall I liked Farcry and I had fun playing it but it's hardly the revolutionary game people make it out to be and it's definitely not GotY material.
actually it's like that for most games because they're too lazy. Thief at least doesn't make the guards just all of a sudden go away if you hide long enough like DX and MGS - they realistically search as far as they could see/hear you go and can still uncover you sometimes, and spend a lot longer searching before giving up. DX and MGS could do stealth as well as that, at least, especially since they're fond of giving you tons of guns and ammo to kill anybody who does find you. but in DX's case they just quite frankly were too lazy, and in MGS's case Kojima is a hack who pretends hiding in cardboard boxes in the open, and tapping your hand against metal walls makes you a superspy.
