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GameSpot: Kojima to leave Konami after MGSV, power struggle, communications embargo

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Sn4ke_911

If I ever post something in Japanese which I don't understand, please BAN me.
Ya I guess he has been known this was coming for a while.

I don't think so. He looks pretty happy in that video and it also shows a poster with his name and the Kojima Productions logo on it.

His boss probably wasn't so happy about MGSV being his last MGS game so he asked Kojima again and this time he said 100% no, so it all escalated.

I don't know, just my two cents.
 

pupcoffee

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It seems to me everything about MGSV's plot is a metaphor of his situation at konami.

DD, Mother Base, Sins of the father lyrics, ...

Even the emphasis on the FOX/XOF logo in Ground Zeroes, looking back, is just weird.

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hirokazu

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1- kojima station site still there.

2- april fool.

3- Geoff Keighley (kojima's friend) who did the interveiw with (mobi dick) two years ago just tweeted about kojima. Helping him again with the pranks?

4- we all talking about it now = true marking.

5- 1/april/2015 is the 10th Anniversary for kojima productions.

Uh, how many times do people have to mention that April 1 is the start of the Japanese financial year? Or are you implying that Kojima Productions was an April Fools joke all along since it was founded on April 1?

The backlash from the fanbase is huge and the shareholder backlash will be too if it turns out to be an April Fools joke.
 

Pennywise

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I don't think so. He looks pretty happy in that video and it also shows a poster with his name and the Kojima Productions logo on it.

His boss probably wasn't so happy about MGSV being his last MGS game so he asked Kojima again and this time he said 100% no, so it all escalated.

I don't know, just my two cents.

Certainly looks like it.
It's Konamis own fault by shifting the focus nearly only towards PES and Kojima Productions, it was bound to happen once.

Really curious what he will do.
A break would be well deserved first and foremost.

If he goes the same route as Mikami or more like Sakaguchi.
 
I think this is an appropriate time to ponder and reflect on that epic monster P_T_ thread here last e3, it was quite a ride. Only for the entire interwebs to be fucking blown away when the first person beat the game and revealed what it actually was, excitement levels off the damn charts. WAS THAT ALL FOR NOTHING!?

Yeah I remember trying to struggle through P.T. on release day/night, it was something special. As a Metal Gear fan, I am saddened Kojima and his staff are being shunned for no reason, but I am at least hopeful that he can now do whatever he wants. But as a aspiring Silent Hill fan (was going to jump in with Silent Hills), I have to remind myself that he can only work on anything he wants, as long as it isn't Silent Hills. The project is doomed, and that's a damn shame.

Even the emphasis on the FOX/XOF logo in Ground Zeroes, looking back, is just weird.

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Yup. Super weird. Still...


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RedSwirl

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Heard some suggestions Kojima might actually go into film after this. He's apparently had actual job offers in film. Can't remember the original source though.

Also, if it hasn't been pointed out in this thread, this goes on top of all the traditional game talent that's bled from Konami over the last year or so: Dave Cox, the Love Plus producers, some UK PES personnel, etc.
 

LurkingFear

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A fallout between Kojima Productions and its owning publisher, Konami, has led to senior staff at the studio being restricted access to corporate internet, emails, and phone, GameSpot understands.

Along with the restricted communications, key developers at the studio, such as Hideo Kojima, will now have limited opportunities to lend their appearance to promotions of the studio’s upcoming game, Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain. Power struggles between Kojima Productions and Konami have led the publisher to make drastic changes, including the employee status of its Metal Gear team. Some senior staff at the studio, including Kojima, now essentially work as contractors, not permanent employees.

The extraordinary measures were revealed by a source within the studio, speaking to GameSpot on the condition of anonymity. The person explained that, once the Phantom Pain project is finished, in all likelihood the management at the studio will disband.

"After we finish MGSV, Mr. Kojima and upper management will leave Konami. They said their contract ends in December," the source claimed.

The person added: "At a team meeting, Mr Kojima explained that team have to be one and make a good game for fans."


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Paracelsus

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So, I wonder what actually went down.
Like, what could've happened for such a seemingly bitter split.

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I don't think so. He looks pretty happy in that video and it also shows a poster with his name and the Kojima Productions logo on it.

His boss probably wasn't so happy about MGSV being his last MGS game so he asked Kojima again and this time he said 100% no, so it all escalated.

I don't know, just my two cents.

Maybe Konami is willing to fund such a top-tier (expensive?) group only if it means a sure cash cow for them, and Kojima went "no dice" when they asked for MGS6.
 

pupcoffee

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I have a feeling that MGSV is going to be quite the rabbit hole for fans who love the Kojima-meta-commentary stuff. I have to admit that I feel both Kaz and Snake are Kojima himself, haha.
 
So, does this spell the end to Silent Hills as well? Unless I'm mistaken, wasn't Kojima and his staff the ones working on that game? Too bad if true, as I was truly looking forward to a quality horror game from them.
 
Microsoft did not buy Mistwalker, they just signed a deal for 3 exclusive games (the last one was cancelled), and the two games they released were made by two different developers, Mistwalker was just "directing" these devs.

I'd be happy if Sony hired Kojima and his devs to make Sony Japan strong again.

Same here. He'd be kind of perfect, his games have almost all of their weight on Playstation plus still sell well in Japan (not to mention worldwide) even on home console not just portables, the SCEJ side has shown they could really use an infusion of his kind of directing talent that can lead a team, since organization seemed to be an issue and we're still waiting to see the fruits of their rebuild, they only seem to have a few like Toyama with Gravity Rush, etc. They are one of the better ones when it comes to developer freedom. And Kojima clearly likes making big AAA games which Sony could clearly use more of from their Japanese side. And ofcourse they seemingly have a good relationship.

Speaking of Mistwalker, I'm glad we got 3 more great console JRPGs out of him before he had to go mobile but, looking at how Tales rebounded sales-wise around the time that they went all-in on PS3 starting with the late port of ToV and the remaster/port of Graces and the massive split in sales of FF towards PS3, I wish after those three that Sakaguchi would have gotten a chance at doing a PS3 JRPG before having to go off into mobile, I feel like most of his audience and fans were there waiting for him and a JRPG by him would have done well there, as evidenced by the massive sales split of FF in favor of PS3 even in places where the 360 was leading even despite 360 exclusive marketing (not to mention in Japan ofcourse), he might still be making console JRPGs if he'd gotten the chance to do a PS3/PS4 one.

I hope Kojima keeps making console games.
 
I have a feeling that MGSV is going to be quite the rabbit hole for fans who love the Kojima-meta-commentary stuff. I have to admit that I feel both Kaz and Snake are Kojima himself, haha.

The dissection of the game's story from this angle is going to be massive isn't it.
 
I for one am going to print out my own box cover of the game with 'A Hideo Kojima Game' and the Kojima Productions logo proudly overshadowing Konami's.
 
If anything that's just an indication of how marketable the Kojima name is without the Metal Gear IP behind it.

If you strictly want to look at games he had a director title on (which means nothing that isn't Metal Gear), then Peace Walker was a flop everywhere but Japan.

Wait, so Kojima's name means nothing without the Metal Gear IP behind it and that's why Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker was a flop outside Japan. Makes sense.

Let's just ignore that there were plenty of external factors that played into its lack of success or that the HD Collection did really well.

Maybe ZOE2's lack of success came down to:
a) That it was the sequel to a mediocre and extremely short game.
b) That it was a mech game, which have never really been mainstream outside of Japan.
c) That it was released twelve fucking years ago.

Your argument is extremely poor. Just because a brand is marketable doesn't mean everything that comes out of it will be a success, the product itself still needs to be marketable. That's true of any brand, whether it's Metal Gear, Kojima or a huge brand like Mario.

Adam Boyes, you snatch this man and his workers up RIGHT NOW!

Adam Boyes is head of third party relations in the US. You want to direct your request to Shu instead.
 
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I have a feeling that MGSV is going to be quite the rabbit hole for fans who love the Kojima-meta-commentary stuff. I have to admit that I feel both Kaz and Snake are Kojima himself, haha.

Nah, Kaz is Shinkawa.
 

Permanently A

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Wow I'm actually surprised at how pissed I am they took off "A HIDEO KOJIMA GAME"

That sentence is iconic, and no matter how hard Konami might think otherwise, the fans will never forget.

Here's hoping that MGSV will be unaffected by Konami's stupidity.
 
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Maybe Konami is willing to fund such a top-tier (expensive?) group only if it means a sure cash cow for them, and Kojima went "no dice" when they asked for MGS6.

I don't think so. Him not being interested at the time to produce another one would hardly merit such a response. Must be something else.

My guess is that someone thought Kojima had too much power over the Konami name and they somehow convinced everyone else to stop it.

Internal strife? Personal vendetta?
That'd be something.
 

PreFire

Member
This is insane

But now we can look forward to a new IP from Kojima

Does he own all the rights to the MGS franchise or will Konami hang on to that?
 

Paracelsus

Member
I don't think so. Him not being interested at the time to produce another one would hardly merit such a response. Must be something else.

Internal strife? Personal vendetta?
That'd be something.

Can you honestly see Konami agreeing to a completely new ip from Kojima, no matter the budget, just to please him? Can you see Konami actually sidelining MGS and keep his big bold team on a project that in this time age and economy is a very likely bomba?
 
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Yes! Four posts in a row representing our dedication to Kojima! Keep it up! Let the conversion continue!
Wait you're telling me this year is the 10th anniversary of KojiProd? That's even more horrible.

"Happy anniversary KojiPro! You are all going to be fired after this game comes out!"

Horrible, let's hope wherever Kojima ends up, he helps the people who helped him make his excellent games.

(lol, this is a little late, forgot to post this for a while, still hype!)
 
And konami will go bankrupt now.should Sony look into buying konami? Do they have any worthwhile IP that can work as an exclusive? Also who owns the right to metal gear? Kojima or konami? What happens to the new silent hill?
 

Sojgat

Member
Went to bed as this was breaking. So now it's all pretty much been confirmed?

Taking his name off of everything is some of the pettiest shit I've ever seen.

This sucks:(
 

Rising_Hei

Member
I don't think so. Him not being interested at the time to produce another one would hardly merit such a response. Must be something else.



Internal strife? Personal vendetta?
That'd be something.

He was probably pretty unhappy with Konami's mismanagement at all stages and it started affecting him, Kojima then tried to give his vision of how should things work, his superiors then got pretty angry because he's "hurt" their honour (this is a very japan-like issue, because you aren't supposed to tell off a superior), and this emerged as result.

Pure speculation tho .
 
Can you honestly see Konami agreeing to a completely new ip from Kojima, no matter the budget, just to please him? Can you see Konami actually sidelining MGS and keep his big bold team on a project that in this time age and economy is a very likely bomba?

I would fully agree if Kojima wasn't scheduled to make Silent Hills after MGSV. The smart thing to do would be to do this at this time in Silent Hills' development. But then again Konami aren't that smart aren't they...
 
As far as I'm concerned (and others for sure), The Phantom Pain will be a game made by Kojima Productions. Removing their logo will not make me forget that.

I hope the Kojima Productions team stay strong and united, in order to make a polished game true to their vision.

They will rest forever in my heart, the last and final moment will be theirs and and that agony is their triumph.
 
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