I'm pretty sure most of them have tried it and when they've talked about it, it was positive. Ben and Brandon I'm sure have. But it's there's just no good way of putting it on stage, I was pretty bored.
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I'm pretty sure most of them have tried it and when they've talked about it, it was positive. Ben and Brandon I'm sure have. But it's there's just no good way of putting it on stage, I was pretty bored.
Yeah, it's not just you.
One thing I've noticed is that they will focus more on how vr is presented than the content itself.
Hopefully when when vr is getting some tangible releases, some of the staff's opinions turn around.
I should point out it's a vibe i got even at this E3, where Blood seemed the only one excited by the technology.
But again, maybe just a wrong impression.
Maybe they'll post here about it.
NOthing they've shown today, no, but in general i strongly disagree.
you clearly haven't tried much of it.
VR is something extremely hard to transmit by just a stream, no wonder a lot of people aren't interested.
Final bosman is out a day early
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG_9seeAslo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG_9seeAslo
Eh, I think they're talking more about the way VR is being sold, and their point is totally valid there. Generic actors in Iron Man ripoff view being terrible at pretending they're playing a game is basically a step above faked Kinect demonstrations. They'd do better stealing 90 seconds worth of YouTube clips of people falling over and having authentic reactions when they take of the headset, but for some reason there always needs to be this thick layer of insincere production gloss over everything.
Kenzodielocke
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Will never watch a live-commentary on conferences anymore. Hyperbolic can go in both directions, and goddamn was Brandon annoying.
I find live-commentaries hard to watch in general. Commentators tend to implant a tone in the audience that effects how they think of the stream. I hate watching a trailer in a conference that I'm liking, but then the commentator will talk about how it sucks, so it makes me think twice. It's annoying more so when they say something negative. If a commentator says, "this whole thing sucks" I tend to get frustrated because I want to enjoy myself. When they say something is overly positive, the worst thing I think is, "huh, that's odd how they like that," but don't think of it much more than that.
I like to watch the conferences alone and then watch again with the commentary to see what others thought. I haven't seen the GT reactions to PGS
I like to watch the conferences alone and then watch again with the commentary to see what others thought. I haven't seen the GT reactions to PGS
The only big discrepancy for me was with VR, because again, i'm super excited for the real thing... but i get their point about how hard it is to sell it.
Still, something like Robinson looked really cool to me.
Beyond that, and aside from Brandon being a big Star Wars fanboy (it is endearing, tho), and Matt Blair getting passive aggressive with chat commenting on that floating rock (but i've already mentioned how i just don't jell with his personality, shit happens), i didn't feel like they were ever obnoxious during it, it was as good as usual.
I do get your point though, ito, though i personally don't really experience that.
Still, something like Robinson looked really cool to me.
Beyond that, and aside from Brandon being a big Star Wars fanboy (it is endearing, tho), and Matt Blair getting passive aggressive with chat commenting on that floating rock (but i've already mentioned how i just don't jell with his personality, shit happens), i didn't feel like they were ever obnoxious during it, it was as good as usual.
I do get your point though, ito, though i personally don't really experience that.
This is exactly how it is for me as well. Really allows you to form a better opinion about whats being shown as well.
brotkasten
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Watching a conference live with commentary only makes sense, if you agree with the views and opinions of the people who are commenting. It's obviously expected that they react to specific scenes and talk over trailers and the presenters. Of course Brandon gets all giddy during the Star Wars trailer, much like Ben was pumped about Gravity Rush 2. But that's pretty much what I want to see and that's okay, because the conference itself wasn't a big deal for me. If it wasn't for Kara at the end, I would've felt like I had wasted my time. The only thing that was a bit of a bummer, was the short analysis after the conference.
He does like chiming in on presentation, which unfortunately he always does when they're trying to present something.
Just hearing that guy on GT live talk about beating every game at 100%, made me anxious.
I've never been a completionist myself (only platinum I have is Bloodborne) and it sounds tedious as fuck, to chase after every little meaningless thing.
At the same time, mad respect for the dude and his cosmic patience.
I've never been a completionist myself (only platinum I have is Bloodborne) and it sounds tedious as fuck, to chase after every little meaningless thing.
At the same time, mad respect for the dude and his cosmic patience.
Honestly, I don't know how he still cares about video games. The crunch sessions I have where I try and scrape up the last trophies feel like such a chore to me, I don't understand how he can do it.
The man is a machine for sure.
That's awesome, I'd like to think it's because he read this thread
IdreamofHIME
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I don't know if anyone here will know the answer, but its worth a try. I just started Huber's 2nd Re4 vid and I'm using PS4 YT app because the PS4 is hooked up in the main room and I can do other things while its on. But there's this weird delay of 6 seconds for some reason.
It's not there on my phone or desktop, just PS4. Its annoying because I'm hearing stuff happen before it does and it spoils unexpected deaths and comedy bits.
Sucks, I really wanna watch. The 1st part was great.
It's not there on my phone or desktop, just PS4. Its annoying because I'm hearing stuff happen before it does and it spoils unexpected deaths and comedy bits.
Sucks, I really wanna watch. The 1st part was great.
AgentChris
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Can't use the PS4 web browser and go to either Twitch or YouTube?
IdreamofHIME
Member
Yeah, but its not as user friendly and takes a while to load up.
Just weird how its this onr (awesome)video thats laggy. *shrugs*
Great video though, so intense at times. Who'd have thunk RE4 could do that? I think a lot of it is how good Huber is as an MC. He treats every encounter like an end boss. Excellent.
Brad Grenz
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There's a dedicated twitch app on PS4 now. Works pretty well, other than the fact that audio doesn't always play when I start a video. Backing out and starting it again always seems to fix it, though.
US only still,.so you do have to sign into a US account to download it if you're from outside the US.
Brad Grenz
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Ahh, didn't realize it was region restricted. That's a bummer, 'cause it sure is nice!
Yeah, watched the PGW GT stream on it and it worked great once I worked out why it wasn't showing on my main account!
Yeah i'm almost done with the RE4 play through.
It was pretty great, Huber was great and RE4 is clearly one of the best games ever made... But those QTEs are sooo cheap, holy shit.
Accumulating that many deaths during the Krauser fight, *just* because of broken, crappy QTEs, is utter bullshit.
They're not interesting or challenging, either.
I'm not even a qte hater, I love them in Shenmue, I love them in Until Dawn and Heavy Rain.
RE4 just has really badly implemented ones, and not just because of the latency or input lag Huber was experiencing.
Another thing I found annoying, is the way the difficulty scales stealthily, the more you die.
Fuck that! if I'm playing on professional, it's because I want the challenge.
It's a slap in the face to be wasting two hours on a boss, and then have the game making get past it by lowering its health or whatever in a sneaky way, makes you feel like a chump.
It was pretty great, Huber was great and RE4 is clearly one of the best games ever made... But those QTEs are sooo cheap, holy shit.
Accumulating that many deaths during the Krauser fight, *just* because of broken, crappy QTEs, is utter bullshit.
They're not interesting or challenging, either.
I'm not even a qte hater, I love them in Shenmue, I love them in Until Dawn and Heavy Rain.
RE4 just has really badly implemented ones, and not just because of the latency or input lag Huber was experiencing.
Another thing I found annoying, is the way the difficulty scales stealthily, the more you die.
Fuck that! if I'm playing on professional, it's because I want the challenge.
It's a slap in the face to be wasting two hours on a boss, and then have the game making get past it by lowering its health or whatever in a sneaky way, makes you feel like a chump.
IdreamofHIME
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Their equipment causes a slight lag. By the time they see the button prompt on screen, they should already have pressed it. Nightmare fuel for the Krauser fight. Other than that, I love qtes. One of the best things in gaming. I hate sitting with a controller on my lap while a long cutscene plays, please keep me engaged Mr developer.
GTtime cuts off as soon as they start the Miitomo talk, bummer.
I'll wait for the YouTube upload, i guess.
1) Contextual prompts: Meaning the buttons and action you have to press/perform relate to what is happening on screen (Shenmue tied the punch button, to punching actions in QTEs for example and the kick buttons to jumps, which makes sense, since you jump with your legs.
2) Do not have them be random: Related to the one above, QTEs should follow a fixed pattern so you won't be forever stuck on a part and you can eventually memorize and go past a section.
3) Branching paths, in failure: Shenmue and Heavy Rain, as well as Until Dawn had this nailed down, basically when you fail a prompt, you often time can continue in a different (usually worse) branching path of the narrative, compared to nailing them all, it's not just an instant failure of the QTE.
In RE4 you either die instantly or just lose a ton of health and don't progress the QTE itself.
RE4 fails all three criteria, which is why i hate them in that game.
It basically plays a cutscene and slaps button prompts into it, instead of giving the cinematics a sense of agency and interaction.
The QTEs in RE4 are not very consistent, and feel tacked on at the last minute.
I'll wait for the YouTube upload, i guess.
I like QTEs, when they respect 3 criterias:
1) Contextual prompts: Meaning the buttons and action you have to press/perform relate to what is happening on screen (Shenmue tied the punch button, to punching actions in QTEs for example and the kick buttons to jumps, which makes sense, since you jump with your legs.
2) Do not have them be random: Related to the one above, QTEs should follow a fixed pattern so you won't be forever stuck on a part and you can eventually memorize and go past a section.
3) Branching paths, in failure: Shenmue and Heavy Rain, as well as Until Dawn had this nailed down, basically when you fail a prompt, you often time can continue in a different (usually worse) branching path of the narrative, compared to nailing them all, it's not just an instant failure of the QTE.
In RE4 you either die instantly or just lose a ton of health and don't progress the QTE itself.
RE4 fails all three criteria, which is why i hate them in that game.
It basically plays a cutscene and slaps button prompts into it, instead of giving the cinematics a sense of agency and interaction.
The QTEs in RE4 are not very consistent, and feel tacked on at the last minute.
I just watched it all, it actually worked for once. Probably the player acting up for you.
For sure, but i can't be bothered by that player.
Been too long since i've stopped using it.
IdreamofHIME
Member
The end of the RE4 stream was so tense, felt sorry for Huber but maybe he should have quit at midnight and came back for the final session fresh.
He was so shattered that the the little mistakes on the turrent section built up into a mountain of trouble for him.
Loved it though, alao good to see a GT let's play not end on a hard cut and have a few minutes to decompress and enjoy what just happened.
Any ETA for Ada's Separate Ways play through?
He was so shattered that the the little mistakes on the turrent section built up into a mountain of trouble for him.
Loved it though, alao good to see a GT let's play not end on a hard cut and have a few minutes to decompress and enjoy what just happened.
Any ETA for Ada's Separate Ways play through?
TheDarkKnight774
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Huber said probably next week or the week after
ShaoranWright
Member
Did you have any problem with the video itself? For me, it went fine most of it, but there last 2 hours are a nightmare, constant buffering at 720p (and even lower, it doesn't load any faster).
I don't get it, because my internet is fine, and even other youtube videos load perfectly fine.
I'm thinking maybe it's the fact that it's 11 hours of video, that causes problems? Either way, it's a real pain in the ass to finish up the last 2 hours, which is funny, since the first 9 were perfectly fine for the most part.
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