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That "whitest black guy they know" thing is something I really despise. Makes it seem like since you don't fit a predetermined racial mold than you forfeit your racial identity.
Same. I hate it.
That "whitest black guy they know" thing is something I really despise. Makes it seem like since you don't fit a predetermined racial mold than you forfeit your racial identity.
Whelp. As a non-American whose experience is mostly based on television, do you feel this has gotten worse over the years? I noticed in my surroundings in the nineties that the number of black people wearing ghetto outfits (typical 'jail chic') went from zero to almost hundred percent; mimicking rappers and I guess at some point it becoming a pervasive identity, like being black meant looking like a jailbird. That always struck me as odd. I'm not saying there wasn't widespread racism before but surely that mustn't have helped in perception.
And then the Sonic Heroes run started and all hell broke loose on that chat.
The oreo thing is bothersome. By any measure is it the mark of an idiot when someone invokes that "you don't talk/sound/act black."
Going back to the comments on the articles, its almost how scary the reactions of people who don't want to think about this are. You can tell just from looking at a few comments that people only looked at the title or maybe the first paragraph. Maybe it would have been more helpful if that article was prefaced with that experiment where you try to view things from someone else's view. I guess ignorance is bliss.
What show would that be? Generally, I am more likely to see a negative stereotypes than a positive one, but it could be bias.It's a bit odd that you think that television is indicative of real life, but I'll give you an honest answer to your question and say this is as good as it has gotten in this country with the incidents described in this thread only serving to show that racism still exists.
Typical shows not explicitly targeted at blacks usually go out of their way to make sure the black supporting cast or even extras are portrayed positively. For every black criminal arrested on a tv show there's typically an upstanding black citizen portrayed elsewhere in the show. It's honestly a bit distracting seeing this balancing act constantly at work, but its better than the alternative.
Uhm...you'd be surprised at how influential the media is on more impressionable (i.e the vast majority) parts of the population. It reinforces their preconceived notions and beliefs, affirms them, and creates a feedback loop.It's a bit odd that you think that television is indicative of real life, but I'll give you an honest answer to your question and say this is as good as it has gotten in this country with the incidents described in this thread only serving to show that racism still exists.
Typical shows not explicitly targeted at blacks usually go out of their way to make sure the black supporting cast or even extras are portrayed positively. For every black criminal arrested on a tv show there's typically an upstanding black citizen portrayed elsewhere in the show. It's honestly a bit distracting seeing this balancing act constantly at work, but its better than the alternative.
Back on topic, sometimes I get the feeling the gaming community is more discriminatory than others. Kind of get the feeling the immaturity of the medium as a whole (in comparison to others) plays a part in that however, so naturally it should get better over time. But another bigger factor to that depends on more minorities joining the development field and featuring minority characters as the draw of their works. Yeah you'll lose some people but if they can't see the bigger picture in why this is happening they weren't worth fighting for in the first place, it's their loss.
Yep thats the sad part, it isn't even just us minorities either. I cannot even count the number of times I have heard someone with an american southern accent just minding their own business only to be called white slurs and insulted because of it. Voice chat in gaming is a hive of scum and villainy.
I didn't read the comments (because I value my sanity), but thats why it's important to be aware of these things, read people's real experiences. I guarantee people posting in the comments aren't aware, and don't WANT to be aware, of what really happens. It's also easier to ignore slurs that don't apply to you, or that aren't directed at you--what's the big deal, am I right? But the people who need to understand the most won't seek to learn. So there's no easy way out. Best you can do is do your best not to shit up someone else's day by being aware of this stuff.
I get called the N word ( even tho I am not black), gay etc etc on FIFA more then any other game.
I missed that one. What happened there? Was it another black speed runner?
I missed that one. What happened there? Was it another black speed runner?
"Gaming culture is a direct reflection of our society," she said. "The only reason racism and sexism run rampant in gaming is because racism and sexism run rampant in society. But in physical spaces, mostly, it's not overt. It's subtle. It's covert. So, yes, these issues manifest in a similar manner in gaming, but I contend that they present themselves worse. It's not subtle. It's in-your-face racism. A black person may not be called a nigger to their face, but they can almost guarantee it will happen in virtuality."
It's an interesting article but clearly very America-centric. Not saying that that's a bad thing, just that there's such much perspective their that myself, as a British born-and-bred black guy of African ethnicity, generally fails to relate to...
I agree though that there's relatively poor representation of most minorities within the industry.
Having spent 6 years working as a software developer in games myself, I've only ever met two other black people: one was an artist, another (female) a QA tester and I've never ever met another programmer like myself.
It's not just restricted to video games though, as I left the industry about 2 years ago and have been doing software engineering in the financial services sector, and again there are generally fewer black people than most other ethnicities around.
Back to the article though, I personally find the concept of "racial identity" a weird one. I guess it's because in the UK we don't have the same bonkers societal racial divide you get over there, where American culture is split almost entirely into segregated racial subsets that are radically different and don't intermix easily.
Over here you still get racism from the odd, backwards individuals but it really is few and far between and isn't something that affects your opportunities, your freedoms, your social standing or anything else in a general sense.
That's why for me, my "identity" is defined purely by how I see myself, in terms of value system and cultural orientations, none of which are sub-divided along racial lines generally speaking...
I would generally identify myself as "British" first (by character, by culture, by nationality), then "African" (by heritage, by blood, also by nationality) but certainly not "black", since in the context of British life, it's kinda meaningless to me at least...
One of the first things I saw when I visited London was a pissed off white dude yelling at a black dude to go back to his country in front of his family while everyone was lined up for the train. I was in line too and clearly from out of the country and he wasn't yelling at me; I can only assume because I'm white. I don't see that kinda shit where I'm from in the U.S.
I identify with the "Black Nerd" comment. I get some flak from my black friends, but even from my white friends. I'm now the whitest black guy they know. As if being educated, and liking intelligent topics, somehow makes me less black.
I've noticed this trend when playing online in a talkative lobby that ends up with multiple people saying the n-word over and over where it usually starts with just one dude to 'break the barrier' so to speak and open the floodgates, then all the rest of them want to get in on the action and get in their racial slurs to be one of the cool kids. It's totally disgusting and makes it blatantly obvious how much of online voice chat racism is made up of white kids who know they would get their asses kicked if they said it in real life now suddenly having the freedom to say it without consequence and so just letting it all out.
This has happened to me very recently. With both race and gender. I had a rather idealistic view that we were pretty much past this, but now I feel as though a lot of people are just more discreet about their feelings and try to play nice to keep their clean social standing.Really the worst part of the 'unfiltered' anonymity of internet/voice chat in general is making you suspect that this is how people have been all along just behind closed doors where you never had access to. In hushed whispers and interpersonal jokes. If you are a minority that was considered 'one of the good ones' in order to fit in to the crowd around you, you may have been sheltered from unfiltered opinions the majority has on your people. Then you come to the internet and are met with such huge amounts of garbage that it breaks the facade and makes you suspect everything.
I've seen alot of people mention Nintendo online games as a way of not having to experience stuff like this. I didnt see/hear any of it in Pokemon X/Y or Pokemon Battle Revolution, but with a competitive shooter like Splatoon giving you lots of different skin tone options, I really hope it doesnt rear its ugly head there.
I mean...everyone's really young. And the miis have plenty of skin tones. I've never seen racist comments on miiverse.
It's an interesting article but clearly very America-centric. Not saying that that's a bad thing, just that there's such much perspective their that myself, as a British born-and-bred black guy of African ethnicity, generally fails to relate to...
I agree though that there's relatively poor representation of most minorities within the industry.
Having spent 6 years working as a software developer in games myself, I've only ever met two other black people: one was an artist, another (female) a QA tester and I've never ever met another programmer like myself.
It's not just restricted to video games though, as I left the industry about 2 years ago and have been doing software engineering in the financial services sector, and again there are generally fewer black people than most other ethnicities around.
Back to the article though, I personally find the concept of "racial identity" a weird one. I guess it's because in the UK we don't have the same bonkers societal racial divide you get over there, where American culture is split almost entirely into segregated racial subsets that are radically different and don't intermix easily.
Over here you still get racism from the odd, backwards individuals but it really is few and far between and isn't something that affects your opportunities, your freedoms, your social standing or anything else in a general sense.
That's why for me, my "identity" is defined purely by how I see myself, in terms of value system and cultural orientations, none of which are sub-divided along racial lines generally speaking...
I would generally identify myself as "British" first (by character, by culture, by nationality), then "African" (by heritage, by blood, also by nationality) but certainly not "black", since in the context of British life, it's kinda meaningless to me at least...
Every word of it is true.
I'll also say that I've seen noticeably less racism online in PC gaming over the years.
Also, the death of people (black or otherwise) talking on consoles is, in my opinion, less about racism and more about the birth of party chat. It killed the social experience that made Xbox Live what it was for most of the last decade. XBL was like walking into an arcade; everyone talking, meeting new people playing the games you wanted to play waiting in line (those old enough to have been standing in arcades on Saturday Mornings in the 90s and early 2000s know what I'm talking about). Party chat took that away; not racism. As such I think that point is marginally flawed, though still has real bits of truth in it. There are definitely times I don't feel like talking precisely because I don't want to have yet another conversation that goes something like,
"are you black? black people play this game?!!?"
"yes, we do. enjoying getting carried by the first black guy you've met?"
It's not that it's exhausting so much as you just don't always feel like having that sort of conversation. It tends to overshadow whatever is supposed to be happening in the game itself.
CSGo might be a different experience; I've only played that game for the first time last month, and only a little.
I have no critique of any other point made, however.
Is it me or does it seem like the acronym ' SJW' or 'social justice warrior' is often used to casually dismiss these topics?
This has happened to me very recently. With both race and gender. I had a rather idealistic view that we were pretty much past this, but now I feel as though a lot of people are just more discreet about their feelings and try to play nice to keep their clean social standing.
Yes, your observation is correct.Is it me or does it seem like the acronym ' SJW' or 'social justice warrior' is often used to casually dismiss these topics?
Is it me or does it seem like the acronym ' SJW' or 'social justice warrior' is often used to casually dismiss these topics?
I guess I don't understand or have no idea but as a Black Man I have never really ever been identified online by voice, being identified as black that way in fact seems so weird to me. But then again I have been told I don't sound black? Something I didn't think was possible but...well I guess I don't. I mean my father who was black also speaks like me so I guess I never understood that black people apparently talk a certain way?
Am I the only one like this?