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[Kano on the Phone]

I'm not saying it's right but it's true. It's dodgy as hell but there's a big difference between a 15 year old in a skimpy outfit and a 10 year old naked or doing sexual acts. I could go on to facebook and find 90% of the pictures that would have been in that reddit.

Are you really drawing distinctions between different pieces of jerk off material with children in them? Context really does matter.

 

[LiK]

I guess that just seems like a weird position to take on this. Do you just not believe that he should be outed at all or is there some amount of dead children pictures that should be allowed in anonymity?

i'm just wary if they'll out the right guy or some innocent dude. does Reddit keep all real info in their accounts for these people to become mods? i don't really visit Reddit so it's a bit of a blur to me. i only visit when people link specific posts.

 

[jediyoshi]

I would think a popular website protecting child pornography would be, but whatever I guess.

Lucky for you the site isn't the subject of the story, but details are overrated.

 

[cutmeamango]

Pics of dead children huh.

 

[ggnoobIGN]

This blew up over the creepshot subreddit right? So these woman have to right to privacy, but when one of Reddit's users gets exposed, watch out!

 

[WanderingWind]

Reddit needs some kind of peer review mechanism to allow subreddits to avoid any old shit being set up as a den of iniquity, the site sails too close to the wind and such examples don't put anyone involved in a good light. As reddit seems to follow a similar model to usenet's alt.* hierarchy I'd look to how those groups were born to see forward, recent stories such as this and men's rights/he man woman hating clubs aren't going to endear it to the world at large.

Reddit is based entirely around a system of peer review. What the users like gets upvoted for more visibility, what it dislikes, gets downvoted into oblivion.

 

[Darklord]

Are you really drawing distinctions between different pieces of jerk off material with children in them? Context really does matter.

From a legal point of view, yeah, there's a distinctions. Saying a guy is in a "child porn scandal" and giving his name and personal details online, you might as well just go "Kill this guy.". The guy sounds like a piece of shit but if she's wrapped up in child porn, give it to the cops, not the internet.

 

[border]

Was there ever actually any child pornography on Reddit? If so, then let it burn to the ground. My understanding of the Jailbait group was that it was mostly girls in clothes and bikinis. Which is entirely legal, though a bit creepy...

 

[Barbacoatl]

Who owns/controls Reddit anyway?

Conde Nast.

 

[Akkad]

Was there ever actually any child pornography on Reddit? If so, then let it burn to the ground. My understanding of the Jailbait group was that it was mostly girls in clothes and bikinis. Which is entirely legal, though a bit creepy...

According to this, yes there was.

 

[Kano on the Phone]

From a legal point of view, yeah, there's a distinctions.

No one is talking about legality, I guess I just assumed that these are hairs people wouldn't bother splitting, but to each their own.

 

[Talon]

A 15 year old in a bikini isn't child porn though. It was also shut down months ago.

 

[Infinite_Daremo]

Pics of dead children....

Still not as bad as space dicks i bet

 

[Jb]

I don't go to reddit very often, I didn't even know it had sub forums for creepy stuff like 4chan.

 

[Macmanus]

I guess that just seems like a weird position to take on this. Do you just not believe that he should be outed at all or is there some amount of dead children pictures that should be allowed in anonymity?

I believe he shouldn't be publicly outed because he's done nothing illegal, nor anything that could bring harm to another human being. At the same time I find the communities he has fostered to be appalling and I'm glad the decision to remove /r/jailbait was made.

Those two ideas aren't mutually exclusive, and it's weird to me that this needs to be explained to adults.

I don't go to reddit very often, I didn't even know it had sub forums for creepy stuff like 4chan.

It's a democratically weighted link aggregator. It's going to have everything the internet houses. The good and the bad.

 

[Ferrio]

Pics of dead children....

Still not as bad as space dicks i bet

What is space dicks anyways? I accidently got linked there once, wasn't sure what the theme of it was though.

 

[toxicgonzo]

I understand the importance of reddit and the purpose it serves in the greater ecosystem of the internet. I just wish it was not an Avenue for sickos to get their rocks off so publicly. :-(

This. I like reddit, but boy do I hate their users.

 

[LiK]

I don't go to reddit very often, I didn't even know it had sub forums for creepy stuff like 4chan.

the only reason i know they exist is because of GAF

 

[Heysoos]

From what I understand the reason some of the sub communities are not allowing Gawker media links anymore is because Chen decided to blackmail people(person?). Not sure how many. Anywhooo. While I don't condone the "creepshots" shit, I think blackmailing someone is just as bad.

Anyways, Gawker sites are crap, so not much lost there.

Was there ever actually any child pornography on Reddit? If so, then let it burn to the ground. My understanding of the Jailbait group was that it was mostly girls in clothes and bikinis. Which is entirely legal, though a bit creepy...

As far as I know, no. They don't allow illegal content on Reddit.

 

[Verdre]

Yeah. I don't understand how anyone can be okay with using reddit with the existence of that trash.

It really, really makes me appreciate GAF, honestly.

Does it, really? GAF had its own equivalent of a jailbait forum with the thread full of people ogling underage Disney and Nickelodeon girls and it was allowed to go on for a long time. They even had avatars and called themselves creepy gaf.

 

[Broder Salsa]

Was there ever actually any child pornography on Reddit? If so, then let it burn to the ground.

I'm sure there was at some point, just like there no doubt has been on facebook, imgur and really all huge sites. Of course when and if something like that was seen it would have been removed immediately from reddit, I hate reddit but that some asshole might have randomly posted child porn on there is no reason to close it down, it has never been accepted on there that's for sure.

 

[perfectchaos007]

Hugh Hefner as an 80 year old started his sexual relations with Kendra Wilkinson as a 19 year old and everyone loved the show. I think the issue here should be more about the jailbait thread than getting oral from a legal woman whom he is not blood related to.

 

[bearythebear]

Conde Nast.

Nah, separate from Conde Nast now. Now under Advance Publication

 

[LiK]

Hugh Hefner as an 80 year old started his sexual relations with Kendra Wilkinson as a 19 year old and everyone loved the show. I think the issue here should be more about the jailbait thread than getting oral from a legal woman whom he is not blood related to.

someone should start an old guy young girl subreddit....maybe it exists already

 

[Darklord]

No one is talking about legality, I guess I just assumed that these are hairs people wouldn't bother splitting, but to each their own.

But it's not splitting hairs. I think the guy is a cunt and a total loser. Everyone in the story are losers. This is some sad internet drama shit. He probably has got child porn from the sound of him BUT jailbait isn't child porn. And for the record, no I'm not standing up for him, look at jailbait, or any of that but claiming a guy is into kiddy porn because he posts facebook pics of teens in bikinis and short shorts is jumping to conclusions.

 

[ggnoobIGN]

Hugh Hefner as an 80 year old started his sexual relations with Kendra Wilkinson as a 19 year old and everyone loved the show. I think the issue here should be more about the jailbait thread than getting oral from a legal woman whom he is not blood related to.

Hugh Hefner is also a boss. This guy is a loser.

 

[Infinite_Daremo]

What is space dicks anyways? I accidently got linked there once, wasn't sure what the theme of it was though.

Best just to leave it there man. Just let it go.

 

[Kano on the Phone]

I believe he shouldn't be publicly outed because he's done nothing illegal, nor anything that could bring harm to another human being. At the same time I find the communities he has fostered to be appalling and I'm glad the decision to remove /r/jailbait was made.

Those two ideas aren't mutually exclusive, and it's weird to me that this needs to be explained to adults.

Who said it had to be explained to anyone? I was asking a question. "I believe he should be anonymous" is a perfectly acceptable answer, it just struck me as odd that the poster I was replying to seemed to think that starting a place to share pictures of dead children wasn't as bad as posting in it.

Responding to arguments no one is making is really strange.

 

[Ferrio]

Best just to leave it there man. Just let it go.

I've seen enough of the internet that it wouldn't phase me.

 

[Heysoos]

Also, what a shitty title.

 

[Barbacoatl]

Nah, separate from Conde Nast now. Now under Advance Publication

Thanks.

 

[border]

Are you really drawing distinctions between different pieces of jerk off material with children in them? Context really does matter.

What's the context that changes it? A girl posts a picture of herself in a bikini or cheerleader outfit on Facebook. Probably not child pornography.

Creep finds the same photo and reposts it to a Reddit group full of similar photos. Has it suddenly become child pornography?

 

[LiK]

Who said it had to be explained to anyone? I was asking a question. "I believe he should be anonymous" is a perfectly acceptable answer, it just struck me as odd that the poster I was replying to seemed to think that starting a place to share pictures of dead children wasn't as bad as posting in it.

Responding to arguments no one is making is really strange.

because sometimes maybe someone is being a troll and starting a random subreddit just to see what happens. similar to people making dumb threads just to see who would post in them. i dunno his history so i was making an assumption about it.

 

[trh]

It's a website with millions of users and a front page that has nothing to do with any of that shit. I use the site and my logged in front page has subreddits of NFL, MTG, photography, paleo cooking and other nonsense subs. I see where you're coming from, but it's not as if using the site directly correlates to agreeing with what every single member among millions does with the tools available.

This is really the biggest problem with Reddit at the moment. Unfortunately it's hard to get anything done about it as the site admins seems to remain incredulously passive about the entire thing. If they started pushing for a more user oriented experience the site could easily shed this horrible image they've acquired. They could do something along the lines of if you go to the site without being logged in you get a prompt to start an account where you get to check a bunch of boxes of what you're interested in - i.e. movies, memes, sports, Emma Stone etc. - and then you get a list of potential subreddits customized based on those choices. The fact that there actually is a standard frontpage that everyone sees at first honestly does not work in their favor in my opinion, as it funnels all the new users towards the experience and it has sort of created a snowball effect. All the good stuff is hidden from plain view and it takes someone that knows about the site to actually get there.

 

[hym]

http://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/pmj7f/a_necessary_change_in_policy/

Reddit policy: No suggestive or sexual content featuring minors.


Police and Courts need to decide if somebody is guilty of breaking the law, releasing personal information in the hope to let the internet mob sort it, ought to be illegal.

 

[Emitan]

What's the context that changes it? A girl posts a picture of herself in a bikini or cheerleader outfit on Facebook. Probably not child pornography.

Creep finds the same photo and reposts it to a Reddit group full of similar photos. Has it suddenly become child pornography?

Because when people post a picture on Facebook they are giving people full license to post it publicly across the internet as wank material?

 

[Ferrio]

What's the context that changes it? A girl posts a picture of herself in a bikini or cheerleader outfit on Facebook. Probably not child pornography.

Creep finds the same photo and reposts it to a Reddit group full of similar photos. Has it suddenly become child pornography?

You could go even further and make that same argument with child nudity/modelling. Hell that IS the argument they make.

 

[Macmanus]

Who said it had to be explained to anyone? I was asking a question. "I believe he should be anonymous" is a perfectly acceptable answer, it just struck me as odd that the poster I was replying to seemed to think that starting a place to share pictures of dead children wasn't as bad as posting in it.

Responding to arguments no one is making is really strange.

Here was your quote:

Do you just not believe that he should be outed at all or is there some amount of dead children pictures that should be allowed in anonymity?

This implies through sarcastic sensibilities that he should be outed because he has posted and contributed to a rather disgusting community and establishing an arbitrary amount of content posted is nonsensical in determining a morally fit punishment. If you want others to read it some other way, I'd work on the manner you communicate your messages.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Do it, really? GAF had its own equivalent of a jailbait forum with the thread full of people ogling underage Disney and Nickelodeon girls and it was allowed to go on for a long time. They even had avatars and called themselves creepy gaf.

Oooooh, I remember that. Yeah, that was fucking horrible and embarrassing. The moderation has improved 1000x since then, though.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

I hate that when a cute girl talks about being on Reddit, I have to pretend to not be irked.

On the other hand, I know a cute girl who is waiting for her Gaf account to start.

We'll be the new TImedog and Devolution.

 

[Talon]

It's silly to play the blame machine on Reddit as if it's the website's fault. Any online community is a reflect on the net as a whole; Reddit's just a point of congregation.

Time and time, we've shown that there are people willing to be crazy/creepy as shit when online and supposedly and anonymous. The venue doesn't really matter.

 

[Macmanus]

It's silly to play the blame machine on Reddit as if it's the website's fault. Any online community is a reflect on the net as a whole; Reddit's just a point of congregation.

Time and time, we've shown that there are people willing to be crazy/creepy as shit when online and supposedly and anonymous. The venue doesn't really matter.

That's the most insane part of this entire non-story. The way so many individuals and news organizations lump together millions of people to a link aggregator as if it's actually a giant singular community based on mutual interests. It's especially bizarre for Gawker, who runs tech based blogs, to have taken up the sword against reddit when they of all entities should be aware of what it is.

 

[trh]

It's silly to play the blame machine on Reddit as if it's the website's fault. Any online community is a reflect on the net as a whole; Reddit's just a point of congregation.

Time and time, we've shown that there are people willing to be crazy/creepy as shit when online and supposedly and anonymous. The venue doesn't really matter.

Remaining passive when the matter is brought up is just as bad as actively encouraging it, though, and it reflects very poorly on the website as a whole that this thing has been going on for so long.

 

[perfectchaos007]

I hate that when a cute girl talks about being on Reddit, I have to pretend to not be irked.

On the other hand, I know a cute girl who is waiting for her Gaf account to start.

We'll be the new TImedog and Devolution.

Will you introduce her to CFB GAF? Is she a Buffs fan?

 

[border]

Because when people post a picture on Facebook they are giving people full license to post it publicly across the internet as wank material?

That's an issue or rights/usage to the image though. Not really what I'm concerned with, as it has little to do with whether or not something is pornography.

You could go even further and make that same argument with child nudity/modelling. Hell that IS the argument they make.

Ugggh, I hadn't thought of all those creepy child modeling sites in a long time. Still though, the same question arises. Is a photograph pornography only because of the context it's presented in, or because someone is probably jerking off to it?

 

[Angry Grimace]

You can't file a DMCA takedown notice of a publically accessible link.

 

[Infinite_Daremo]

I've seen enough of the internet that it wouldn't phase me.

You must have seen some shit. Its essentially just carlton banks face photoshopped onto every messed up picture possible, mainly involving one form of pornography or another. You usually give the link to someone when you wanna ruin their day,

 

[Kano on the Phone]

Here was your quote:



This implies through sarcastic sensibilities that he should be outed because he has posted and contributed to a rather disgusting community and establishing an arbitrary amount of content posted is nonsensical in determining a morally fit punishment. If you want others to read it some other way, I'd work on the way you communicate your messages.

I already told you what I was asking, and the poster I was asking responded in kind. If you still want to insist I meant something else, cool. You're free to PM me if you really want to talk to me that badly, I don't want to clog up the thread with admirers or anything.

because sometimes maybe someone is being a troll and starting a random subreddit just to see what happens. similar to people making dumb threads just to see who would post in them. i dunno his history so i was making an assumption about it.

I see what you're saying, I'm not sure what that other guy's problem was.

 

[Macmanus]

Remaining passive when the matter is brought up is just as bad as actively encouraging it, though, and it reflects very poorly on the website as a whole that this thing has been going on for so long.

You, along with seemingly the vast majority of people, fail to understand what Reddit is. The admins may not like the content that is being posted, but that isn't their job to police it. It's a link aggregator that is democratically weighted. It isn't a blog, it isn't a singular community or forum. It would the equivalent of condemning all of Tumblr for a single user that posts creepy pictures.

 

[jediyoshi]

Remaining passive when the matter is brought up is just as bad as actively encouraging it, though, and it reflects very poorly on the website as a whole that this thing has been going on for so long.

Does it actually reflect poorly? I have to imagine there aren't exactly people on the fence about using reddit over this single issue, especially when it doesn't affect the vast majority of users. I don't think anyone's batted an eye at registering for GAF just because creepygaf or ponygaf exist at some capacity. These subreddits are something you'd have to actively seek out, at which point you're already either part of it or are just looking for some tangential piece of the site you or people you're addressing aren't visiting anyway. I'd hazard to guess a lot of users don't know it exists as a problem either way.