Gears of War 4 NVIDIA Error Promo Keys From Amazon Mass Revoked

I feel like he should be banned for being a fucking crook also. Even IF he gets a refund from his seller, and gave it to me...IF that happened, it sounds like he's only wanting to give what he paid for it, while he gets to keep the profits. What a damn thief.

And you should all be bopped for being complete morons who tried to take advantage of a shady deal but ultimately got played yourself whilst making this forum look bad to the developers at The Coalition (and everyone else) and lack the self awareness to admit you did something wrong and take the loss.

With no concern for the people who worked on Gears of War 4 or those that designed the latest Nvidia graphics cards featured in this promotion, you tried to circumvent the traditional sales process and in turn rip off the people who make the products for the very hobby you profess to love. "Fuck you - got mine."

Then you got caught. Making yourself look stupid, your money lost to smarter thieves and bringing the integrity of NeoGAF into question for having a thread which promoted and encouraged unethical behaviour all so you could save a few bucks.


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So because he's an xbox bro its all ok?

Ridiculous.
What a deplorable lack of thinking.

OP lost his chance at a refund, but let's be honest, the chance of that happening sounded very slim. I appreciate the quote from the seller. Nice to know what kind of person we're dealing with. I certainly won't be dealing with that seller regardless of if they refund anyone's money or not.
Yes this is precisely my point. The seller has now zero incentive to refund.
I agree with your first point.
 
The situation sucks for some of you, but sometimes you have to wonder what people are thinking. Clearly a super-low priced key falls into the category of "too good to be true."

Paypal "friends and family" is meant to prevent fees for people you should be able to 100% vouch for (typically friends... and family...) You get no protection using it to buy goods, and you should definitely question buying from any seller who asks you to send payment that way. If they are concerned about fees, they should add that to their asking price.

Yes, Im sure this has been said over and over already in this thread, but frankly, the more we read it, the more we can keep this kind of thing from happening again.
 
And you should all be bopped for being complete morons who tried to take advantage of a shady deal but ultimately got played yourself whilst making this forum look bad to the developers at The Coalition (and everyone else) and lack the self awareness to admit you did something wrong and take the loss.

With no concern for the people who worked on Gears of War 4 or designed the latest Nvidia graphics cards, you tried to circumvent the traditional sales process and in turn rip off the people who make the products for the very hobby you profess to love. "Fuck you - got mine."

Then you got caught. Making yourself look stupid, your money lost to smarter thieves and bringing the integrity of NeoGAF into question for having a thread which promoted and encouraged unethical behaviour all so you could save a few bucks.

What kinda post is this? Maybe you should read through this thread before commenting. People bought these codes 1-2 days after start of the promotion before there was any knowledge of the scam. Sellers sold those at normal price for promotions ($40-45), so nobody had any idea these codes were glitched. But good job on portraying people as scammers. Ridiculous
 
What a deplorable lack of thinking.


Yes this is precisely my point. The seller has now zero incentive to refund.
I agree with your first point.

That's kinda crap man. Borntoplay had some suspicion as he didn't refund immediately, one of his buyers even referred to them as being "screwed". Borntoplay then made it right. To me personally, I would trust a guy like that going forward. I wouldn't deal with a guy who chose not to do the right thing because he didn't like being called out for being wrong in the first place.

Well this entire experience has made me hate this place, and Im gonna request a ban so I dont visit here anymore.

Oh cut it out. If you can't deal with an idiotic opinion here and there, then you've got some growing up to do. A lot of people backed you up and you read a few negative responses and now you're acting like this?
 
And you should all be bopped for being complete morons who tried to take advantage of a shady deal but ultimately got played yourself whilst making this forum look bad to the developers at The Coalition (and everyone else) and lack the self awareness to admit you did something wrong and take the loss.

Calling people morons when you don't know the situation, what would that make you? Buying keys from promotion at half price is not taking an advantage of a scam, this has been going on for a long time now. Would you consider buying the pc version of xbox play anywhere a scam too?
 
What kinda post is this? Maybe you should read through this thread before commenting. People bought these codes 1-2 days after start of the promotion before there was any knowledge of the scam. Sellers sold those at normal price for promotions ($40-45), so nobody had any idea these codes were glitched. But good job on portraying people as scammers. Ridiculous

Paying $45 for a code from some guy on the internet instead of ponying up the extra fifteen dollars and obtaining the game through legitimate means is ridiculous.

And if you paid via PayPal using the 'Friends & Family' option to someone you don't even know (and thereby removing any protection you would of had in getting your money back) - you either knew the key was hot or you are really, really, really thick.

Calling people morons when you don't know the situation, what would that make you? Buying keys from promotion at half price is not taking an advantage of a scam, this has been going on for a long time now. Would you consider buying the pc version of xbox play anywhere a scam too?

What would that make me? Someone who didn't get their money stolen.
 
Oh cut it out. If you can't deal with an idiotic opinion here and there, then you've got some growing up to do. A lot of people backed you up and you read a few negative responses and now you're acting like this?

And he's gone. Welp, that was fast

Paying $45 for a code from some guy on the internet instead of ponying up the extra fifteen dollars and obtaining the game through legitimate means is ridiculous.

Okay. I'm sorry you feel this way though.
 
And you should all be bopped for being complete morons who tried to take advantage of a shady deal but ultimately got played yourself whilst making this forum look bad to the developers at The Coalition (and everyone else) and lack the self awareness to admit you did something wrong and take the loss.

With no concern for the people who worked on Gears of War 4 or those that designed the latest Nvidia graphics cards featured in this promotion, you tried to circumvent the traditional sales process and in turn rip off the people who make the products for the very hobby you profess to love. "Fuck you - got mine."

Then you got caught. Making yourself look stupid, your money lost to smarter thieves and bringing the integrity of NeoGAF into question for having a thread which promoted and encouraged unethical behaviour all so you could save a few bucks.


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What a ridiculous post. You think people were paying $20, $30, $40 dollars for keys that others scammed for $0? It didn't come out until later that the reason keys were so cheap was because Amazon royally effed up, and not because people were offloading keys they didn't want from GFX cards they purchased, which is what I imagine most assumed was going in. I've said it a bunch, but yeah we need to be responsible and protect ourselves by using things like good and services, but it still sucks to get taken advantage of.

If you bought a key for $7 after the glitch news was out then sure you go in to that situation with all the info and should be be ready for any consequences, like the key being revoked.
 
Monoaware it's annoying stuff like this happening but calm down. I've been scammed twice, once on Gamefaqs and this one.

It's dangerous doing business online with strangers but there's the risk.I dont send money on Paypal much so I didn't know friends and family was like that. Ive bought stuff on GAF and used friends and family with no problems before. Next time, definitely using goods and services, I'd happily eat the extra fees.

To add, it's not Microsoft's or Nvidia's fault. I'll just get Gears 4 later.
 
And you should all be bopped for being complete morons who tried to take advantage of a shady deal but ultimately got played yourself whilst making this forum look bad to the developers at The Coalition (and everyone else) and lack the self awareness to admit you did something wrong and take the loss.

With no concern for the people who worked on Gears of War 4 or those that designed the latest Nvidia graphics cards featured in this promotion, you tried to circumvent the traditional sales process and in turn rip off the people who make the products for the very hobby you profess to love. "Fuck you - got mine."

Then you got caught. Making yourself look stupid, your money lost to smarter thieves and bringing the integrity of NeoGAF into question for having a thread which promoted and encouraged unethical behaviour all so you could save a few bucks.


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I have waited for a post like this from you to be honest. No one reacted to your dumb gifs so you had to do a big post eventually. Honestly don't understand what it means to you that people are getting games a little cheaper. Codes have been sold forever, they are a valid license to a game. Those copies are already paid for via the promotion. Nobody is getting ripped off. Or at least the devs aren't lol.

Well this entire experience has made me hate this place, and Im gonna request a ban so I dont visit here anymore.

Not the smartest move if you want to get your money back.
 
That's kinda crap man. Borntoplay had some suspicion as he didn't refund immediately, one of his buyers even referred to them as being "screwed". Borntoplay then made it right. To me personally, I would trust a guy like that going forward. I wouldn't deal with a guy who chose not to do the right thing because he didn't like being called out for being wrong in the first place.
This is how the world works, man. It sucks, it's illogical and inefficient, but that's what happens. I had to be patient and nice and respectful to my eBay seller when asking for a refund because I didn't know what could just suddenly piss him off and then I'd have to go through eBay and the added hassle. Even when he tried to trick me by saying he could only partial refund, I had to very nicely tell him to not play me and asked for a full amount. Then when he forced a partial refund I had to be very nice telling him I did not agree with that, and I'd need the full amount refunded.
The point is, you have to anticipate irrational behaviour because you don't know how much that other person puts feelings ahead of logic.
 
lessons learned for some people I suppose. If your gonna try and save a few quid by getting keys off unknown sources, be ready for it to potentially not work out. Good way to save money on PC games I find is buying the physical copy, its typically cheaper then Digital Downloads by a good amount and it comes with the key anyway.
 
I have waited for a post like this from you to be honest. No one reacted to your dumb gifs so you had to do a big post eventually. Honestly don't understand what it means to you that people are getting games a little cheaper. Codes have been sold forever, they are a valid license to a game. Those copies are already paid for via the promotion. Nobody is getting ripped off. Or at least the devs aren't lol.

What? Is this par for the course from this poster? Just curious

They were just too blinded by their rage and emotions to see that not everyone was out to get them =/

Kinda sad, he's never gonna see his money now I guess
 
If you had a key that wouldn't redeem, you may want to try your key again today. I bought a key yesterday that did not work. Seller said he legitimately bought a 1070 off Amazon. This morning on a whim I tried it again and it unlocked the game. If you have a code that wouldn't redeem you should try today.

I imagine those of you that had the game already and it was revoked are probably still screwed.
 
This is how the world works, man. It sucks, it's illogical and inefficient, but that's what happens. I had to be patient and nice and respectful to my eBay seller when asking for a refund because I didn't know what could just suddenly piss him off and then I'd have to go through eBay and the added hassle. Even when he tried to trick me by saying he could only partial refund, I had to very nicely tell him to not play me and asked for a full amount. Then when he forced a partial refund I had to be very nice telling him I did not agree with that, and I'd need the full amount refunded.
The point is, you have to anticipate irrational behaviour because you don't know how much that other person puts feelings ahead of logic.

I agree and it's obvious that mono was prone to overreactions, I guess it's naive of me to expect other sellers to share my beliefs of making things right though. Lol, in regards to being scammed, it happened to me once when I was young. Personally, I considered it a $60 lesson to never repeat that mistake.
 
Paying $45 for a code from some guy on the internet instead of ponying up the extra fifteen dollars and obtaining the game through legitimate means is ridiculous.

Buying someones unwanted key to save $15 (and give the GPU buyer a small return of the cost of their card) is ridiculous and illegitimate? How exactly? Nvidia promotional codes get sold here all the time with no issues. I bought a code for $45 (and I got a refund afterwards). I had no idea the Amazon glitch was a thing, at the time I was bought my no-one had any reason to suspect they were dodgy.

I can kinda understand your supercilious attitude towards people who knew about the glitch and bought $7 keys but plenty of us aren't in that boat.
 
I have waited for a post like this from you to be honest. No one reacted to your dumb gifs so you had to do a big post eventually. Honestly don't understand what it means to you that people are getting games a little cheaper. Codes have been sold forever, they are a valid license to a game. Those copies are already paid for via the promotion. Nobody is getting ripped off. Or at least the devs aren't lol.

I have no problem with people who bought a 1070 or 1080 wanting to unload their game code for some extra cash.

But if you're trying to tell me that this is the situation everyone is in who bought these cheap keys, especially after it was advertised in this thread on how to obtain them for free by placing then cancelling Amazon orders or who to buy from on here or other websites like reddit, then I don't have enough dumb laughing anime JIFs to post.
 
lessons learned for some people I suppose. If your gonna try and save a few quid by getting keys off unknown sources, be ready for it to potentially not work out. Good way to save money on PC games I find is buying the physical copy, its typically cheaper then Digital Downloads by a good amount and it comes with the key anyway.

In USA, physical copies of PC games went the way of the dodo.
 
I have no problem with people who bought a 1070 or 1080 wanting to unload their game code for some extra cash.

But if you're trying to tell me that this is the situation everyone is in who bought these cheap keys, especially after it was advertised in this thread on how to obtain them for free by placing then cancelling Amazon orders or who to buy from on here or other websites like reddit, then I don't have enough dumb laughing anime JIFs to post.

Well, the person you called a moron spent $35 which people only really tried to charge before the glitch was widely known. Once the Amazon thing got out, codes were sold for under $10. I don't think anyone that spent that little is complaining in this thread about getting a refund.

If someone in this thread aggressively argued that they deserve this game for $7, then launch a .giff at them.
 
Paying $45 for a code from some guy on the internet instead of ponying up the extra fifteen dollars and obtaining the game through legitimate means is ridiculous.

And if you paid via PayPal using the 'Friends & Family' option to someone you don't even know (and thereby removing any protection you would of had in getting your money back) - you either knew the key was hot or you are really, really, really thick.



What would that make me? Someone who didn't get their money stolen.

Yeah and some people have real life bills to pay cause they don't live at home on mummy and daddy's dime, and saving 15 bucks can be the difference between actually being able to afford a game and not being able to play it at all. The game is fucking 70 euro here, that's massive for someone with bills to pay like i do. It's too much. If I got a key for 40 or 45 euro thats just about affordable if I don't buy any other frivolous purchases per month.

So honestly, get stuffed with that attitude. We can't all afford to blow essentially a weeks worth of grocery money on a ridiculously overpriced CD key. Maybe if companies don't want people buying keys off eBay or dodgy key sites they shouldn't charge extortionate amounts for digital versions that should if anything, be even cheaper nowadays.
 
If someone demands that you send them money through PayPal marked as 'Friends & Family' and they are in fact not a friend and/or family member - run far, far away.

Yeah and some people have real life bills to pay cause they don't live at home on mummy and daddy's dime, and saving 15 bucks can be the difference between actually being able to afford a game and not being able to play it at all. The game is fucking 70 euro here, that's massive for someone with bills to pay like i do. It's too much. If I got a key for 40 or 45 euro thats just about affordable if I don't buy any other frivolous purchases per month.

So honestly, get stuffed with that attitude. We can't all afford to blow essentially a weeks worth of grocery money on a ridiculously overpriced CD key. Maybe if companies don't want people buying keys off eBay or dodgy key sites they shouldn't charge extortionate amounts for digital versions that should if anything, be even cheaper nowadays.

If you are having difficulties choosing between new video games or buying food so you do not starve to death then maybe wait for a sale or the GOTY Edition.
 
So honestly, get stuffed with that attitude. We can't all afford to blow essentially a weeks worth of grocery money on a ridiculously overpriced CD key. Maybe if companies don't want people buying keys off eBay or dodgy key sites they shouldn't charge extortionate amounts for digital versions that should if anything, be even cheaper nowadays.

Look, this might sound crazy, but maybe, people don't "actually need" to play the video game.

This is like the halfway point between people buying games full price, and people pirating them. Too cheap (or literally cannot afford) to buy it full price (or at least from the official/licensed source), but can't morally rationalize paying nothing, so by paying "someone" something it soothes their conscience, not questioning the source of their savings as that would risk the moral rationalization they just achieved.

Like really, you're arguing some people can't afford to buy games at full price, and that's the company's fault for charging so much for them. Do you know how/why games are priced as they are? Or why regional pricing is the way that it is (and how it gets exploited to provide richer countries cheap keys)?

It's a reflection on the average wealth of the citizens of the country it's being sold in. Finding the right balance between not making it "too" expensive (as to place it out of the price range of your average person and push them towards piracy) and not making it expensive enough (whereas you could increase the price, and your profit, without putting it out of reach of the average person).

The United States, relative to the rest of the world, is quite wealthy, even if for many people's personal experiences it doesn't feel like it at times. So because of this, keys here are going to be sold for a fair bit higher than countries like Russia and whatnot, because overall as a country, they can afford it. The reason those "ridiculous overpriced" keys are cheaper in other countries is precisely because on average, they could not afford it at the 1:1 exchange rate price. So for that region it gets adjusted down into "average person" level pricing, in order to encourage "some" sales and try to recoup any money they can, along with discouraging piracy.

However, in steps a site like CDKeys.com, that realized that by buying up large amounts of these foreign region keys and reselling them in territories like the US, they could undercut the official MSRP while still maintaining a healthy profit, all the while devaluing the cost of games in people's eyes because they become so accustomed to buying them cheap.

Now, my tangent is semi-unrelated to all this (I apologize), considering it's about people reselling promotional keys, but that comes with it's own giant set of baggage.

Rather than accept that people could not afford to buy a game at the suggested price, they decide to take the risk on buying from someone who was never authorized to sell it, in the hopes that it'll all just work out in the end. Saying that "He was selling it for $45 not $10 so I didn't think it was sketchy" is the wrong attitude for people to have. Unless it's coming from someone authorized to sell the keys/product, it's always going to be "sketchy". I could sell the key for $1 or $59 and it wouldn't make a bit of difference how "trustworthy" I really am, but the higher the number the more "legitimate" it makes me look. I'm not any more legit than anyone else. I'm just taking a hit (or even potentially a gain) to my own profit to try and convince people I'm the "safer" sketchy source of keys.

If you still can't seem to afford to wait until you can, well, afford it and would rather take the gamble on the used/second hand/resold product in order to get it RIGHT NOW, you best be sure you are taking every single precaution you can to protect yourself in the event it goes south. Never Paypal F&F, always at least question the source (even if they don't always answer), paper trail the entire way. No amount of positive feedback makes a seller 100% safe. There is always the chance that this'll be the day they decide to fuck someone over. And that someone could be you. And as mad as you might be that you got had, it will be entirely on you that you didn't use the options available to you to protect yourself.

Video Games.
 
Buying used/second hand/resold means you accept all the risk that comes with buying it from the non-official or licensed source.

That is how it has worked for just about every other medium and object since consumer protection laws became a thing, and it's how it'll continue to function.

If you buy a cheap, unused key from someone, it gets revoked, and the seller won't refund you, that makes them a bad person. But it also makes you a sucker if you didn't have at least one avenue to help you dispute/get your money back.

Ebay buyer protection exists for this very reason.

Obviously much harder to accomplish on something like the B/S/T thread, where literally all you have is their word that they won't screw you, but that's the risk that you willingly take involving yourself with it. Complain all you want about how the seller screwed you, at the end of the day they're still a dick, but don't pretend for even a second like this was never a possibility.
 
Took about a day but I sent Nvidia support pictures of my video card box, amazon code email and invoice and now my original code I received from Amazon now works. Another game for the backlog.
 
Took about a day but I sent Nvidia support pictures of my video card box, amazon code email and invoice and now my original code I received from Amazon now works. Another game for the backlog.

But Coalition_PezRadar said only fraudulent keys were revoked.
 
The situation sucks for some of you, but sometimes you have to wonder what people are thinking. Clearly a super-low priced key falls into the category of "too good to be true."

Paypal "friends and family" is meant to prevent fees for people you should be able to 100% vouch for (typically friends... and family...) You get no protection using it to buy goods, and you should definitely question buying from any seller who asks you to send payment that way. If they are concerned about fees, they should add that to their asking price.

Yes, Im sure this has been said over and over already in this thread, but frankly, the more we read it, the more we can keep this kind of thing from happening again.
People have problems with Kinguin, etc. So what's the difference between them and dealing with sellers on GAF or Reddit? Doesn't matter where the steak came from as long as the steakhouse is nice?
 
And you should all be bopped for being complete morons who tried to take advantage of a shady deal but ultimately got played yourself whilst making this forum look bad to the developers at The Coalition (and everyone else) and lack the self awareness to admit you did something wrong and take the loss.

With no concern for the people who worked on Gears of War 4 or those that designed the latest Nvidia graphics cards featured in this promotion, you tried to circumvent the traditional sales process and in turn rip off the people who make the products for the very hobby you profess to love. "Fuck you - got mine."

Then you got caught. Making yourself look stupid, your money lost to smarter thieves and bringing the integrity of NeoGAF into question for having a thread which promoted and encouraged unethical behaviour all so you could save a few bucks.




Well said. I am buying the game day one at full price. It's worth it.
 
This thread is so weird. There is nothing shady, morally ambiguous, or harmful to the developers if people are selling their legitimate game code from a video card they bought. The "poor" developers/publishers were already paid for the game as part of the video card promotion, and people are entitled to sell the game they legally obtained from the card purchase.

Of course in this fiasco, people fraudulently obtained codes and people shouldn't expect to be getting the game with stolen keys. Normally, people sell their legally obtained codes from video card purchases in the $35-45 range so when a number of us GAFers initially bought codes there was no clue that there was any fraud involved. Anyone paying in the $7-20 range, of course a big warning light should have gone off in their head that the codes aren't legit.
 
This thread is so weird. There is nothing shady, morally ambiguous, or harmful to the developers if people are selling their legitimate game code from a video card they bought. The "poor" developers/publishers were already paid for the game as part of the video card promotion, and people are entitled to sell the game they legally obtained from the card purchase.

Of course in this fiasco, people fraudulently obtained codes and people shouldn't expect to be getting the game with stolen keys. Normally, people sell their legally obtained codes from video card purchases in the $35-45 range so when a number of us GAFers initially bought codes there was no clue that there was any fraud involved. Anyone paying in the $7-20 range, of course a big warning light should have gone off in their head that the codes aren't legit.
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Well this entire experience has made me hate this place, and Im gonna request a ban so I dont visit here anymore.

That meltdown. Probably not the best thing to do if you really wanted your money back. Maybe stop kicking and screaming for once and have some patience? Like others said, if you paid via F&F, you probably could still get your money back. Please act like an adult.


I do find it funny how he was complaining about the seller's lack of response when he ghosted me in a middle of working out a deal in the B/S/T thread lol.

This thread is so weird. There is nothing shady, morally ambiguous, or harmful to the developers if people are selling their legitimate game code from a video card they bought. The "poor" developers/publishers were already paid for the game as part of the video card promotion, and people are entitled to sell the game they legally obtained from the card purchase.

Of course in this fiasco, people fraudulently obtained codes and people shouldn't expect to be getting the game with stolen keys. Normally, people sell their legally obtained codes from video card purchases in the $35-45 range so when a number of us GAFers initially bought codes there was no clue that there was any fraud involved. Anyone paying in the $7-20 range, of course a big warning light should have gone off in their head that the codes aren't legit.

From my understanding, 90% of the bashing is towards people who are complaining yet were buying those low cost level keys.
 
This thread is great, it's a lesson learned thread when it comes to second hand purchases. If you buy something that isn't official with no proof of purchase, it's a risk you are taking and if it turns into a scam, that's your problem.
 
I kind of feel bad for the people that got ripped off. Actually nope I don't feel bad, I think it's a load of crap that people feel entitled to cheaper games because it's on pc. The way I see you should be happy that you can play Xbox games without buying an Xbox.
I don't understand why chance buying the game from someone to save 15 bucks. Even worse why not pay the protection fees. It's only a couple of bucks , that's crazy not to. Does it even matter if you leave the guy bad feedback. I would just delete my neogaf account and make a new account. Lesson learned everyone because this is going to happen way more with keys.
You gotta pay to play.
 
This thread is so weird. There is nothing shady, morally ambiguous, or harmful to the developers if people are selling their legitimate game code from a video card they bought. The "poor" developers/publishers were already paid for the game as part of the video card promotion, and people are entitled to sell the game they legally obtained from the card purchase.

Of course in this fiasco, people fraudulently obtained codes and people shouldn't expect to be getting the game with stolen keys. Normally, people sell their legally obtained codes from video card purchases in the $35-45 range so when a number of us GAFers initially bought codes there was no clue that there was any fraud involved. Anyone paying in the $7-20 range, of course a big warning light should have gone off in their head that the codes aren't legit.

not to be technical, but according to the promo you are not allowed to sell/trade the codes. People do it all the time and typically nothing comes of it but this time people rolled the dice and got burned. It happens.
 
This thread is great, it's a lesson learned thread when it comes to second hand purchases. If you buy something that isn't official with no proof of purchase, it's a risk you are taking and if it turns into a scam, that's your problem.

Agreed. That's not to say it doesn't suck for those who were revoked, but it should be a life lesson to those who try to save a couple of bucks buying something that on the fine print states "Not for resale"

However, I have no sympathy for the people who used fraudulent credit cards to scam amazon. Hopefully those that took advantage of that lost a lot of money.
 
This thread is so weird. There is nothing shady, morally ambiguous, or harmful to the developers if people are selling their legitimate game code from a video card they bought. The "poor" developers/publishers were already paid for the game as part of the video card promotion, and people are entitled to sell the game they legally obtained from the card purchase.

Of course in this fiasco, people fraudulently obtained codes and people shouldn't expect to be getting the game with stolen keys. Normally, people sell their legally obtained codes from video card purchases in the $35-45 range so when a number of us GAFers initially bought codes there was no clue that there was any fraud involved. Anyone paying in the $7-20 range, of course a big warning light should have gone off in their head that the codes aren't legit.

No they're not. It is in the fine print
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/gears-of-war-4-bundle Click Terms and Conditions
FOR NORTH AMERICA TERRITORIES
FOR NORTH AMERICA TERRITORIES Free game code offer good beginning September 20, 2016 through October 30, 2016 or while supplies last. Offer good for one digital download code for Gears of War 4 only. Limit one download code per customer. Offer valid only through authorized ETAIL and Retail partners and redeemable at https://redeem.geforce.com. Offer may not be substituted, exchanged, sold or redeemed for cash or other goods or services. Offer valid worldwide, excluding Japan. Customer is responsible for any applicable sales tax. Offer may not be combined with any other offer, rebate, or discount coupon. Product subject to availability, quantities are limited. Retailers, distributors and employees of NVIDIA, Microsoft, and their agencies/affiliates are not eligible. Void where prohibited. Offer code will be provided to customer with the purchase of a qualifying NVIDIA product.

Now, we all know that plenty of people rarely follow this and that it's rarely enforced, but the fine print still exists and this happens to be one of those instances where it absolutely needed to be enforced.
 
not to be technical, but according to the promo you are not allowed to sell/trade the codes. People do it all the time and typically nothing comes of it but this time people rolled the dice and got burned. It happens.

Even if they say, doesn't mean it's not legal to resell.

This thread is great, it's a lesson learned thread when it comes to second hand purchases. If you buy something that isn't official with no proof of purchase, it's a risk you are taking and if it turns into a scam, that's your problem.

And if you do, don't use payments method that don't give you protection. This is first big revocation. But I don't think most of these codes have ever been legit (as in sold with GPU and not some under-the-table deal)

However, I have no sympathy for the people who used fraudulent credit cards to scam amazon. Hopefully those that took advantage of that lost a lot of money.

I think Paypal refunds cost a bit, so they're losing money if everyone asks for refund.
 
The "Not for Resale" stuff can be a gray area though.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sonic-the-H...206412?hash=item25c4e6228c:g:9TEAAOSwLF1X6CFC

Should eBay be shutting down Sonic the Hedgehog 1 CIB auctions then?

Sega technically could request that ebay shut it down, but it's not worth the effort or hassle. If someone reports the user, they very could shut it down.

Even if they say, doesn't mean it's not legal to resell.

Maybe not illegal, but that does mean they have the right to revoke it.



I think Paypal refunds cost a bit, so they're losing money if everyone asks for refund.

No. Paypal refunds are free. Have been for me rather.
 
None of the fineprint here in Germany says anything about not being able to resell. I'm sure that's not a valid restriction in the EU.
 
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