Gears of War 4 NVIDIA Error Promo Keys From Amazon Mass Revoked

What a bunch of bullshit. Stop blaming people at the end of the chain for this stuff. Those folks don't deserve to eat shit because they didn't know Amazon stupidly fucked up the distribution of their codes, and then a bunch of sleazebags decided to flip those codes.

People should not have expected those codes to get revoked because by and large Nvidia codes that get sold are not obtained and then sold at massive markup from egregiously mishandled transaction blunders on the part of the retailer. These revoked keys are failings on the part of Amazon for not locking their shit down, and the assholes who sold them for 35 dollars when they got them for free to blend in with people who got their codes Nvidia codes legitimately. Those people who "should have known" were in a position of being unable to discern codes taken from Amazon preorders and actual GPU purchases, of which there's nothing unethical about buying.

No, its absolute bullshit for YOU to think that you're entitled to something because you bought something that was obtained in a fraudulent way.

Yes, Amazon screwed up, but that doesn't give you the right to keep something that was fraudulently obtained from them.

Also, if these keys were purchased through ebay and/or paypal then those who are affected should be able to obtain a refund. Both services offer protection to the buyer.
If you made the purchase through a program that doesn't offer buyer protection then that is 100% on the buyer and I have 0 sympathy.
 
They are but it's not generally done because you fuck over people who bought the keys from someone else. This is actually the first time I've personally seen a mass-revoke actually occur and I've been around Slickdeals a long time and seen a lot of these price errors over the years.

I guess I'm not surprised MS is such an evil company. I've never once seen a Steam key revoked when this sort of thing happens.

No one should ever buy anything on the Windows and Xbox Stores. MS can and will take away your purchases at any time.

Steam has a long history of revoking keys (including legit keys that were purchased in another region).

The funny thing is I'd argue that the seller of legit key codes is at a greater risk than the buyer.

I mean what's to stop a buyer from buying a code, using it, then claiming it didn't work and eBay sides with them?

Nothing. In fact, unless things have changed recently, eBay has always said that digital codes shouldn't be sold there (mostly because eBay didn't want to deal with the high rate of fraud claims).

Not totally unexpected but poor showing. You'd think that these three (mega) corps would find a way to handle the situation without screwing people.

Anyone know if the Xbox has to connect to the web to activate the preload? Already finished preload there. I'll just keep it offline until release.

The only ones doing any screwing of people are the scammers. You don't blame Apple when someone buys a stolen iPhone off Craigslist and then can't use it because of an iCloud lock.

Wait, so they're revoking legitimate keys just because they were obtained second-hand? Yay digital future, where you own nothing.

The keys were not revoked because they were sold second-hand. The keys were revoked because they were never paid for by the original purchasers. The ordered were cancelled.

your wrong either way. I understand why they did this but it screws the buyers not the sellers. It really sucks.

Anyone who paid via standard PayPal or via eBay is covered via buyer protection.

The only people doing the "screwing" are the scammers in the chain.

so keys sold through Amazon GPU's are fake?...Amazon is usually so easy to deal with...won't they just send you a new legit key?

The keys sold via Amazon are legit.

The keys in question here were all revoked because the original buyers cancelled the purchase. Since the original buyers told Amazon they no longer wanted the product, the keys were marked invalid.

If a gaffer who was very particular about me paying friends and family on Paypal refuses to refund me. I'm guessing there's nothing I can do?

You're pretty much screwed at that point. There is no protection w/F&F because PayPal doesn't get a fee and the transaction is considered a gift.

Bought one from BernardoOne on Gaf, messaged and maybe getting a refund. I told him I'd accept the amount minus the cost for him to refund the $35. I didn't know about the glitch/error on Amazon and thought I was buying a legit key as well. He seems like a good dude, feel bad about him likely taking a hit overall though :(

Not sure why you should need to take hit. A PayPal refund is free. Just a single button press.

The fact that they can just say "no you're not allowed to own this game anymore" and remove it from your account is pretty scary

That can be done with any digital title that is either:

1) Refunded or
2) Obtained via fraud

Steam is well known for doing this.

I will give you a refund to anyone who got the code revoked from me, just PM me with the info...

Like i said to many of you, i'm working with a etail reseller, the codes dont come from the amazon glitch... but because there is no proof of purchasing i will go with the refund..

Sorry to everyone...

How does that work? If you purchased all the cards via a reseller you should have a proof of purchase to use.

It was $35, and the person I bought it from apparently bought it from someone else first...something I was not aware of. I'm not too happy with his response, because he makes it sound like I'll only see a refund if he gets one from his source first.

We bought from sir_dany. He just told me the same thing again. Its not my problem if he doesn't get a refund. I bought from him and not from whoever he says he bought from.

Edit: and once again, he sends another reply that sounds just as shitty... he says "Maybe other gaffers got it for free, I didn't" as if this is my problem...

It shouldn't be either of your problems. At this point, just file the negative feedback and hope for the best.

Problem for me is I did f/f gift on paypal :( can't really do a dispute...I know I know, we shouldn't do that...but I've requested gift myself when I've sold stuff, and I've given them to others without issue... :( /sigh

This is the biggest problem right here. When you ignore the PayPal TOS just to save a dollar or two, you're giving up any sort of buyer protection.
 
This sucks for anyone who had legitimate keys that got caught in the crossfire.
However to the people who were willingly buying unknown cheaper codes from an unknown source which could have also been stolen, then that is just as bad as buying from G2A or Kinguin.

To be honest if you buy an unknown key then you should have at least some expectation of it being revoked in the future because it has happened time and again due to G2A and other shady sellers.
PS anyone with open cases on Paypal, DO NOT close them, otherwise you just fucked yourself out of a refund.
 
Dropped the Reddit bloke I hot the code from a message saying, "well tis ended badly, bloody mass revocations" didn't expect a refund, wasn't really gunning for one .

He replied with "wasn't me, someone hacked my Reddit account"

Despite of course his long post history all backing up various things and the email I paypald been ties to that username elsewhere.

Why lie? So pointless.
 
Well I basically sent the guy on gaf here an ultimatum via PM.

"What don't you understand that you are responsible as a seller to be responsible for what you sell? I had no knowledge that you had a "source" that you buying codes from. As far as I knew at the time, you were just another gaffer who might have gotten it with a video card, because I had no heard of any exploit on amazon yet, so I had no concerns about the legitimacy of the code.

It is not my problem if you bought the codes you were selling...once you decided to be a seller, YOU are responsible for it, and I expect a refund. The fact that you are ignoring me and jrush64 makes you look like a scam artist, because you are being shady as hell.

You sold me a revoked code for a game...doesn't matter where it came from, doesn't matter if you yourself paid for it...I am entitled to a refund BY YOU for it because it was not legit.

You have been on this site all day, and have had plenty of time to resolve this. I expect you to do so.

Refund my $35 to xxx@xxx.com as you are supposed to, or negative feedback will be left, and I will file a claim with paypal."
 
Dropped the Reddit bloke I hot the code from a message saying, "well tis ended badly, bloody mass revocations" didn't expect a refund, wasn't really gunning for one .

He replied with "wasn't me, someone hacked my Reddit account"

Despite of course his long post history all backing up various things and the email I paypald been ties to that username elsewhere.

Why lie? So pointless.

Because he knows theres not much you can do to get the money back by force if you paid by "friends and family".

Its dishonest and scummy, sure, but theres not much you can do to make him refund :/
 
This sucks for anyone who had legitimate keys that got caught in the crossfire.
However to the people who were willingly buying unknown cheaper codes from an unknown source which could have also been stolen, then that is just as bad as buying from G2A or Kinguin.

To be honest if you buy an unknown key then you should have at least some expectation of it being revoked in the future because it has happened time and again due to G2A and other shady sellers.

Nvidia bundled game keys are always cheap and up until now they've been perfectly legit and safe, I don't think it was unreasonable to expect the same this time. I had absolutely no reason to believe my key would be revoked (Gafer I bought from did refund me though) as unwanted Nvidia keys are very common and you can always pick them up for a bargain price.
 
No, its absolute bullshit for YOU to think that you're entitled to something because you bought something that was obtained in a fraudulent way.

Yes, Amazon screwed up, but that doesn't give you the right to keep something that was fraudulently obtained from them.

Also, if these keys were purchased through ebay and/or paypal then those who are affected should be able to obtain a refund. If you made the purchase through a program that doesn't offer buyer protection then that is 100% on the buyer and I have 0 sympathy.

Fuck that. Who I have zero sympathy for is Amazon inadvertently flooding the market with their bogus keys that are indiscernible from proper Nvidia promotional codes. They bear a significant amount of the blame because by the time it came for them to go crying to Nvidia/Microsoft, the damage was done.

We can talk about proper measures about shielding yourself from scam purchases 'till we're blue in the face, but at the end of the day, the people shelling out $35 aren't to blame for anything.
 
Nvidia bundled game keys are always cheap and up until now they've been perfectly legit and safe, I don't think it was unreasonable to expect the same this time. I had absolutely no reason to believe my key would be revoked (Gafer I bought from did refund me though) as unwanted Nvidia keys are very common and you can always pick them up for a bargain price.
Yes that it true however any user buying a key for a game that is too good to be true or for £15 or less than the RRP is the risk that you have chosen to take, but you can't blame anyone apart from the sources that were selling these shady and misleading keys.
Any key regardless of what promotion they are from runs the exact same risk of being revoked if from a misleading seller or a shady website.

This happens all the time, due to the shady websites selling anything for cheap.
 
Nvidia bundled game keys are always cheap and up until now they've been perfectly legit and safe, I don't think it was unreasonable to expect the same this time. I had absolutely no reason to believe my key would be revoked (Gafer I bought from did refund me though) as unwanted Nvidia keys are very common and you can always pick them up for a bargain price.

Part of the problem is you believing that it's legit and safe, it's not and hasn't been but a risk you and others have been willing to take because so far it has worked out for you. This time it did not.
 
the people who you are buying keys off on neogaf arent legit resellers even if the like to claim as much, they wouldnt be selling keys on a formum for starters. they are people with keys who sell them. BorntoPlay sounds like he is full of shit as well
 
Yeah....this is really ruining my day that I bought one from a crooked member of this forum who is being shady as hell too. Never seen something like this happen. Mods don't give a shit, and the community in the b/s/t seem to not give a shit either. Buyer beware.... ha. No consequences for the asshole keeping my money.

We give a shit in BST, but all you can do is name and shame the person and leave negative feedback so his history is out there for everyone. Not sure what else you want folks to do.

In my opinion, even if you get your dough back, the guy deserves bad feedback for his behavior.
 
We give a shit in BST, but all you can do is name and shame the person and leave negative feedback so his history is out there for everyone. Not sure what else you want folks to do.

In my opinion, even if you get your dough back, the guy deserves bad feedback for his behavior.

What do I want folks to do? Well for starters, to show a little bit of outrage that this would occur with one of our members. It seems like instead of placing any blame on the person who might be pulling a scam, I keep seeing long drawn out posts on how I should have known better. And then people agreeing with that.
 
What do I want folks to do? Well for starters, to show a little bit of outrage that this would occur with one of our members. It seems like instead of placing any blame on the person who might be pulling a scam, I keep seeing long drawn out posts on how I should have known better. And then people agreeing with that.

That's ridiculous. It's bullshit that he did it, but no one owes you any specific reaction. Leave his ass negative feedback, dispute the charge and see what happens. Plenty of people have sympathized and given you advice. I personally would stay away from a seller with neg feedback for such an issue and hopefully others keep away as well hurting his chances of doing business going forward.
 
That's ridiculous. It's bullshit that he did it, but no one owes you any specific reaction. Leave his ass negative feedback, dispute the charge and see what happens. Plenty of people have sympathized and given you advice. I personally would stay away from a seller with neg feedback for such an issue and hopefully others keep away as well hurting his chances of doing business going forward.

whatever, you're right, i'm stupid. I'll shut up.
 
I refunded, even though my purchases on Amazon went through, as soon as I heard about this, after selling a few keys in the GAF marketplace. My reputation on this forum is more important than a couple of keys that were wrongfully revoked, but as the seller, IMO its my problem to take it up with NVIDIA/Amazon (which I will). Its a big mess at this point.
 
Meh it was only $10 for me on Reddit, not really bothered by the money or the game. Only got it cause it was hard to turn down a £40 game at that price.
 
Wait, so you are saying that if I where to buy code now from someone who wasn't trying to pull the wool over my eyes and they just didn't want the code that came with their card for whatever reason, then I wouldn't be able to use it? Really?
 
What do I want folks to do? Well for starters, to show a little bit of outrage that this would occur with one of our members. It seems like instead of placing any blame on the person who might be pulling a scam, I keep seeing long drawn out posts on how I should have known better. And then people agreeing with that.

Its a shame the mods aren't doing anything. The least they can do is ban him. Don't you and jrush have his name and possibly his address? Contact his local authorities and tell them he sold you stolen digital goods that you weren't aware of and now they don't work, that'll go on his records.
 
Fuck that. Who I have zero sympathy for is Amazon inadvertently flooding the market with their bogus keys that are indiscernible from proper Nvidia promotional codes. They bear a significant amount of the blame because by the time it came for them to go crying to Nvidia/Microsoft, the damage was done.

We can talk about proper measures about shielding yourself from scam purchases 'till we're blue in the face, but at the end of the day, the people shelling out $35 aren't to blame for anything.

I don't know who expected you to have sympathy for amazon.+
 
See i'm pissed too but there's nothing we can do. Shit happens. sir_dany scammed us. I'll give till tomorrow before I post negative feedback.

sucks that the guy who scammed you was so eager to buy Forza horizon codes yesterday but unable to give your money back, kinda bullshit you both have to deal with this.
 
What do I want folks to do? Well for starters, to show a little bit of outrage that this would occur with one of our members. It seems like instead of placing any blame on the person who might be pulling a scam, I keep seeing long drawn out posts on how I should have known better. And then people agreeing with that.

Amazon screwed up. People knowingly selling glitch keys in the B/S/T is super disappointing. People buying keys aren't to blame IMO because it's not unrealistic to think that someone might be unloading a key or keys. If someone bought a key after we knew there was a glitch then they had to be prepared for the worst. IMO People should always, always send payments as Goods and Services when doing business transactions.
 
See i'm pissed too but there's nothing we can do. Shit happens. sir_dany scammed us. I'll give till tomorrow before I post negative feedback.

He scammed me too and gave some bogus response. He basically bought a bunch of keys from Reddit or wherever and then sold them at a higher price here before everyone knew about the Amazon scam. I expect a full refund, it doesn't matter where he got the keys from.

Also, even if he is trying to get money refunded from whomever he bought them from, he most likely paid $10-15 per key and then tried reselling them here for $35. He should immediately be refunding people who bought his keys the $20-25 or so without any issue since that was never money he actually spent, ie, pure profit from his scamming.
 
Problem for me is I did f/f gift on paypal :( can't really do a dispute...I know I know, we shouldn't do that...but I've requested gift myself when I've sold stuff, and I've given them to others without issue... :( /sigh


Why the fuck did you do f/f? I feel like you're getting a pretty inexpensive life lesson here.
 
Why the fuck did you do f/f? I feel like you're getting a pretty inexpensive life lesson here.

most people on the B/S/T do it so nobody has to pay tax or whatever crap the buyer has to spend extra on so the seller gets the exact cash, I've generally always done my dealings with F/F since i know whom i'm dealing with (in terms of rep )
 
most people on the B/S/T do it so nobody has to pay tax or whatever crap the buyer has to spend extra on so the seller gets the exact cash, I've generally always done my dealings with F/F since i know whom i'm dealing with (in terms of rep )

I did too. But never again unless it is a seller with a huge amount of positive feedback ;p.
 
I need an email right now. I can't get the nvidia site to show its email and Amazon is useless.

I really just want my code or a $60 voucher or something.
 
most people on the B/S/T do it so nobody has to pay tax or whatever crap the buyer has to spend extra on so the seller gets the exact cash, I've generally always done my dealings with F/F since i know whom i'm dealing with (in terms of rep )

Which I don't understand since you give up all buyer protection. I say "you" there but I'm speaking generally. Not trying to single you out or anything. I always add in the fees when I send payment. If I think the final price + fees is too high then I negotiate with the seller.
 
Which I don't understand since you give up all buyer protection. I say "you" there but I'm speaking generally. Not trying to single you out or anything. I always add in the fees when I send payment. If I think the final price + fees is too high then I negotiate with the seller.

who cares about buyer protection when you can save a little over a dollar.
 
who cares about buyer protection when you can save a little over a dollar.

I love how Mononoaware has the audacity to make a post like this:


Microsoft really shouldn't have done this, it just comes off as petty. I'm less inclined to buy it since they think they can just revoke purchases like that. I had no idea my code was bad, and now I gotta do extra leg work because they made a mistake.


This guy bought a code from some guy over the internet and thought it was a good idea to skip buyer protection.
 
Why the hell are there so many people picking on the victims here??? God, you're all so mighty than thou, you act like you never made a damn mistake, when the person who should be mocked and picked on is sir_dany12 for being the jerk seller. Instead it's all on MY shoulders because I was supposed to take this as a "too good to be true" even though I've bought and sold codes for games and credit plenty of time without issue, and fear of it being revoked.

God, just wish people stop being jerks about this crap to me! I hate this.
 
Why the hell are there so many people picking on the victims here??? God, you're all so mighty than thou, you act like you never made a damn mistake, when the person who should be mocked and picked on is sir_dany12 for being the jerk seller. Instead it's all on MY shoulders because I was supposed to take this as a "too good to be true" even though I've bought and sold codes for games and credit plenty of time without issue, and fear of it being revoked.

God, just wish people stop being jerks about this crap to me! I hate this.

Well first you aren't a victim. You made a choice to buy at a very cheap price which has inherent risk and lost. That's called a bad choice. Now due to your choice that didn't work out this time you have extra leg work.

I buy clothes off eBay to save money sometimes they don't fit right. Do I blame the manufacturer? No im bargain shopping. It's my choice and my fault. Take some responsibility for your choices
 
Why the hell are there so many people picking on the victims here??? God, you're all so mighty than thou, you act like you never made a damn mistake, when the person who should be mocked and picked on is sir_dany12 for being the jerk seller. Instead it's all on MY shoulders because I was supposed to take this as a "too good to be true" even though I've bought and sold codes for games and credit plenty of time without issue, and fear of it being revoked.

God, just wish people stop being jerks about this crap to me! I hate this.

Look, I'm sorry this happened to you. But you've made your bed and now you have to sleep in it. Don't expected MS or Amazon to honor these scammed codes. Take responsibility for your stupid decision to skip buyer protection.

And yes the seller sucks.
 
Why the fuck did you do f/f? I feel like you're getting a pretty inexpensive life lesson here.

You obviously have never bought anything from second hand resellers. I've been both a buyer and seller, recently sold a 970 gtx to fellow gaffer who didnt do f/f and i asked him to change it and he did. There was no way i was going to eat the fees cost.

Well first you aren't a victim. You made a choice to buy at a very cheap price which has inherent risk and lost. That's called a bad choice. Now due to your choice that didn't work out this time you have extra leg work.

I buy clothes off eBay to save money sometimes they don't fit right. Do I blame the manufacturer? No im bargain shopping. It's my choice and my fault. Take some responsibility for your choices

What a shitty analogy. Your clothes still functions, his keys are revoked so they are useless.
 
Well first you aren't a victim. You made a choice to buy at a very cheap price which has inherent risk and lost. That's called a bad choice. Now due to your choice that didn't work out this time you have extra leg work.

I buy clothes off eBay to save money sometimes they don't fit right. Do I blame the manufacturer? No im bargain shopping. It's my choice and my fault. Take some responsibility for your choices

What? The clothes aren't defective, you ordered the wrong clothes. Jesus Christ.
 
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