Lol man just get ur money back and buy the damn game legit. Ooooohh i is a victeem of de circumcision.
Jk
Gears of War 4 NVIDIA Error Promo Keys From Amazon Mass Revoked
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Jk
i've lost money to a seller here (for like four years). i couldn't file a dispute because i paid gift so all i could do was leave negative feedback and be done with it. i was out some money but hey, it was a lesson learned.
Mononoaware
Banned
I can't afford to just be out of the money with nothing to show for it...I bought Gears of war 4 because I couldn't resist...but in reality I need to be saving every other penny I have for a trip to Japan that I had been saving for. I skimmed a little just to buy gears 4 because yes, it was a good deal....but without it, it's a complete waste, and was taken away from my travel fund. To not even have what I paid for just drives me crazy...I want it back.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
I'm willing to buy things 2nd hand on the internet, but I sure as shit want buyer protection. This thread illustrates a good reason why. Buyer protection measures are a necessary cost of doing business.
What steps have you taken to get your money back?
ok. but you're not getting it back. maybe transfer some of the frustration you have to focusing more on saving for the trip and not buckling to buy discounted video game codes. $35 isn't going to make or break your trip
RichiRamjag
Member
Dispute it with PayPal then. We all know you want your money back, but no one other than PayPal and the seller can do it at this point. You're gonna have to be proactive if you want your funds back at this point. It sucks that you've gotta do it, but time to get on it if it's causing this much stress.
Who wears shitty fitting clothes? It's a perfect anaology in that buying discount comes with inherent risk.
Normal fees are like 3% it's a total non issue for mutual safety and people that use f/f don't have a leg to stand on when they get scammed.
Seriously? Clothes all fit differently and talk about not seeing the forest for the trees. The point is when you buy second hand/discount reseller there is inherent risk. The clothes could be not genuine, in poor shape, or just be a plain rip off that's the inherent risk of doing that. You accept it and move on. Blaming MS for actually wanting to be paid for their software is 100% ridiculous and amazon shouldn't be held responsible either since the codes were achieved through illigetimate means. Want 100% safety? Use the correct channels that offer buyer protection. This isn't rocket science.
demigod
Member
If you used friends and family but paid through your bank, dispute the claims with your bank if paypal doesn't offer a solution.
Your analogy still sucks because you can still wear it. And if you can't you can still return it, there was no risk at all.
You're being purposefully obtuse. And no you can't return clothes usually off the internet from resellers and if you do it's a pain in the ass on eBay and have to pay return shipping.
RichiRamjag
Member
Well my good man. I would have to disagree. I think there are a lot of more irritating things. For example: babies in the rain, McDonalds and their constantly failing ice cream machine, Virginia humidity. I await your rebuttal!
I agree with you though
Giftofgab24
Member
If you usually avoid an accident while driving is it ok to take your seatbelt off? Same thing. Unless you know the seller personally you should always do goods and services. If you do F&F and get screwed.....what else did you expect?
suikodan
Member
Perhaps but unlike other gaffers here, he didn't give a refund yet.
We've been discussing this all day and he hasn't given a refund. Has stopped communicating. Has also not even show proof that he's waiting for a refund from whoeover he got the keys from. I don't believe he got those keys from anyone. He just doesnt want to refund the money.
Kind of shitty luck that we got keys from someone who does this. I'm not going to lose my head over $35 but it's shitty and just disappointing. I just wont be playing gears as soon as I want too.
Kind of shitty luck that we got keys from someone who does this. I'm not going to lose my head over $35 but it's shitty and just disappointing. I just wont be playing gears as soon as I want too.
If you are at that point when another buyer has to issue ultimatums then just bring up the issue in the feedback thread already, explain the situation and leave (negative) feedback so it's on record. Not every buyer is looking through this thread here, so not everyone can make a informed decision regarding purchases/the mentioned seller in the BST thread going forward.
That's pretty much all you can do at this point
Wrestlemania
Banned
It turns out this is not the case.
I had an eBay key that was revoked and have just redeemed a new key I got with an actual purchase.
After redeeming the code and logging into your Microsoft account, all you need to do is use a different email address when prompted. I just added a +1 to my gmail address and it all redeemed fine - it's currently in my library.
Some of the posts in this thread are embarrassing, I thought GAF was better than this. How can anyone blame MS in this situation?
That's exactly what you have to tell the seller, he/she has your money so why would there be a problem to give it straight back?
The onus is on the seller (who probably flipped it) - likely bought them for $7 on reddit at highest - so even then it's not going to cover the $45 or thereabouts you probably paid. Really naughty from the unnamed GAF seller. Hope you get a prompt refund with an apology.
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Just read the last couple of pages. Damn, that's not good.
That's exactly what you have to tell the seller, he/she has your money so why would there be a problem to give it straight back?
The onus is on the seller (who probably flipped it) - likely bought them for $7 on reddit at highest - so even then it's not going to cover the $45 or thereabouts you probably paid. Really naughty from the unnamed GAF seller. Hope you get a prompt refund with an apology.
*edit
Just read the last couple of pages. Damn, that's not good.
Diablohead
Member
I never bought a key as I was away for the week around the time keys were being sold for $35 not knowing that people were getting them from fake orders on Amazon, but seeing the price drop down to sub $10 screams "this is going to backfire at some point" and I don't blame nvidia, amazon or microsoft nuking the codes.
Amazon do need to look into how their key system works, this has happened before i'm sure.
Amazon do need to look into how their key system works, this has happened before i'm sure.
Backfoggen
Banned
Another day and still no refund from the Ebay seller, seems like I'll have to wait the five days till I can contact Ebay directly about this. At least by then the review embargo is up so I know if the game is worth a rebuy or not, lol.
sensui-tomo
Member
Yup doesnt help when the seller was also trying to buy Foriza Horizon 3 codes from other gaffers during that exploit the other day and told the 2 affected gaffers here they had to wait. I know detective gaf isnt good. but in this case it shows that something is messed up. They have the money to refund them if they can spend it on other codes from other gaffers.Some of the posts in this thread are embarrassing, I thought GAF was better than this. How can anyone blame MS in this situation?
That's exactly what you have to tell the seller, he/she has your money so why would there be a problem to give it straight back?
The onus is on the seller (who probably flipped it) - likely bought them for $7 on reddit at highest - so even then it's not going to cover the $45 or thereabouts you probably paid. Really naughty from the unnamed GAF seller. Hope you get a prompt refund with an apology.
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Just read the last couple of pages. Damn, that's not good.
Well i bought my code from a reddit user, who assured me it wasn't a generated code and was bought with his own credit card!!. The game has now disappeared from my games list, the seller does have a high feedback rating however!,i have contacted him telling him the game has disappeared and asked for a refund.....lets see if he obliges
Yeah, I don't understand the logic there. It probably wasn't even their decision. But I guess when people are upset a finger has to be pointed.
People who sold the code and don't refund the money or are stalling on refunding until they get their money because they flipped codes are beyond lame, need to take responsibility and do what's right.
Dusktildawn48
Member
Still nothing from my eBay seller.
FYI, basically anyone selling large quantities of same game keys in the BST thread is buying them from somewhere else, marking them up, then reselling them here.
Nor is it your job to wait on them either. If you can, file a complaint on Paypal and leave them negative rep ASAP. I have done a lot of buying and reselling over the years and never once, have I told a buyer, "Please wait till I get my refund from the one I got it from". Exact opposite. Me getting my refund has nothing to do with the buyer getting his refund. These are two distinct transactions.
Mononoaware
Banned
The nerve of sir_dany12...I am so pissed beyond words at him....no one should ever do business with this asshole.
his last reply is this "Im not ignorin you, I will not lose money over this. If you want to leave negative feedback, do it, thats nothing i can do to stop you from doing that.
Ill refund you as much as I receive from the seller."
He will not lose money over this...what a fucking prick.
his last reply is this "Im not ignorin you, I will not lose money over this. If you want to leave negative feedback, do it, thats nothing i can do to stop you from doing that.
Ill refund you as much as I receive from the seller."
He will not lose money over this...what a fucking prick.
Backfoggen
Banned
Lol, wow.
RichiRamjag
Member
I'd never do business with a guy like that. That's bullshit. When I sold my spare horizon code or when I sell anything, I leave the money in PayPal for a week or so, just in case something happens. Hope you left feedback.
jadedm17
Member
TIP : Get a good credit card and use it for everything - gas, groceries, clothes, etc. - then pay it off monthly to build credit and get rewards points.
Use it for all risky purchases : Most credit cards you can file a dispute and they'll refund the money then deal with it for you, skipping any eBay games or similar situations.
If you went the proper channels (Microsoft's store, or used a credit card or Paypal) then you can get a refund, if not it's a lesson you've learned so move on.
You bought third party and there's a risk in that. If you paid with friends and family you've now learned what your extra money gets : Insurance.
We're not picking on you, we're saying be an adult and realize what you did wrong.
Use it for all risky purchases : Most credit cards you can file a dispute and they'll refund the money then deal with it for you, skipping any eBay games or similar situations.
If you went the proper channels (Microsoft's store, or used a credit card or Paypal) then you can get a refund, if not it's a lesson you've learned so move on.
You bought third party and there's a risk in that. If you paid with friends and family you've now learned what your extra money gets : Insurance.
We're not picking on you, we're saying be an adult and realize what you did wrong.
demigod
Member
He could've refunded you the difference until he got his refund but he chose not to. He probably spent the profit on forza horizon 3. Did you use paypal credit or did paypal pull it from your bank?
Unbelievable. Just hit this person with the feedback so other users can see this
Ban Puncher
Member
You tried to take advantage of a scam but you were the one who was scammed.
Mononoaware
Banned
I feel like he should be banned for being a fucking crook also. Even IF he gets a refund from his seller, and gave it to me...IF that happened, it sounds like he's only wanting to give what he paid for it, while he gets to keep the profits. What a damn thief.
RichiRamjag
Member
He's not going to get banned. Feedback is how these issues are handled. Did you leave it yet so others can see going forward?
What I am about to say has nothing to do with the transaction and I am not defending him on that, but you do know that private messages are supposed to be private, right? For example, if I was him I would've stopped communicating with you once I knew you'd plaster my private messages in a public form. Now of course you can use those messages as proof of your accounts with him, but I don't think you should copy paste what he said verbatim, at most you should describe in your own words. Because you have to think of the indirect consequences, now he's even less incentivized to work with you on fixing this, right?
Again I am not defending his actions, I am just talking in general, PMs should remain PMs.
Hopefully it prevents people from doing business with them in the future.
Mononoaware
Banned
His messages imply he has no intention of making good, and I want people to see what kind of shit he's been spewing in my direction. This kind of conversation should be public when he's trying to pull a fast one and steal other people's money.
That's fair, but why are you expecting him to do good on his word now? The moment you took this road, you should have expected nothing would be fixed because of they way you reacted disincentivized him.
Only do this as the last resort, after you have exhausted all other avenues.
RichiRamjag
Member
A lot of us won't do business with someone who neg feedback. Outside of bernardo, I ignore anyone on that list.
Mono certainly jumped the gun earlier on with his reaction and the posting of the messages, but the guy did sell a product that no longer works and should be accountable for it. Mono also needs some personal accountability for this whole situation, but the seller catching feels because he didn't like mono's reaction isn't a valid excuse. Not sure why you're putting this on mono in this case. As a seller, you should have a standard that you live by.
demigod
Member
There was no fix. He could've partial refund but he didn't. He's just trying to drag this on so the people who bought from him would just forget about it.
GHG
Member
This is the most important thing.
Complaining in this thread is like preaching to the choir. If accurate feedback is not left, then the feedback list is worthless.
I'm assuming that positive feedback was left when the sales in question first went thru,so those impacted need to be sure to post in the feedback forum and message a feedback volunteer to make sure it is changed from positive to negative.
OP lost his chance at a refund, but let's be honest, the chance of that happening sounded very slim. I appreciate the quote from the seller. Nice to know what kind of person we're dealing with. I certainly won't be dealing with that seller regardless of if they refund anyone's money or not.