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[Lillie]

Free upgrade for PC Windows Store / Xbox owners of Ultimate Edition - this is good. I wonder if progress will carry over too

 

[DeepEnigma]

I see many people on X calling "the end of Xbox", I don't see the problem of them going multiplatform, their console is still worth it for different reasons, exclusives are not everything. For example:
- Better controller for those used to asymmetrical sticks
- Game Pass
- Backwards compatibility with 360
- Mouse + Keyboard support in many games natively
- Lower price (XSS)
- Better VRR
- Better MS support in your country (doesn't apply to US, in there everything works)

 

[FoxMcChief]

What is MS honestly doing at this point?

Remastering good games. While the other guy is remastering Days Gone.

 

[Alebrije]

XSS 512 GB isn't tho, even $100 or $200 is a BIG difference depending on where you live, so there are reasons to get an Xbox for many people over PS5

plus if You add Gamepass to the Series S is the Best deal for low income people. Altought I kwon low oncome people that also get they PS5 digital because they want to play Sony's exclusives.

 

[jm89]

MS will also likely drop the price again close to the GTA 6 launch. Some posters hate the reality that the Series S will be the most cost effective way to play it.

It's over bro.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

lol yea right

Xbox was probably selling 10-20% of PlayStation and has been since the PS5 was widely available.

Imagine being wrong about something and being so confident about it.

 

[m14]

You don't know what cost effective means

What a convincing rebuttal.

You really think people in a year from now are gonna rush out and buy a XXS to play GTA6 when the PS5 digital wont be much higher in price.

You don't know what the prices will be in a year and you have zero insight into what price conscious consumers are likely to do.

Serious question, why are you doing this to yourself?

As someone that pays for NeoGAF gold, you no doubt are very well placed to advise us on how the proletariat will choose which system they buy for GTA.

 

[Montauk]

Serious question, why are you doing this to yourself?

There are always a few sceptics, but you'll change your tune next year.

 

[GHG]

As someone that pays for NeoGAF gold, you no doubt are very well placed to advise us on how the proletariat will choose which system they buy for GTA.

Swing and miss, it's not something I've paid for.

You're still free to answer the original question any time you like though.

 

[rofif]

It's essentially ultimate edition which butchered the original art style of the game.... and added back the bad/pacing breaking brumak fight level which was cut from original 360 release FOR A REASON.
Shame. I just want original versions.

 

[StueyDuck]

What is MS honestly doing at this point?

squeezing blood from an orange.

maximizing sales and profits

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Interesting wording no?


Nahh there are still more Xbox consoles coming

Not sure why but its happening

They are xbox branded consoles.

September should be a fun month.

 

[m14]

Swing and miss, it's not something I've paid for.

You're still free to answer the original question any time you like though.

I never miss!
You're just so out of touch. Sitting there with your NeoGaf gold (that you apparently didn't even pay for) and an avatar of Randy Pitchford looking like he's morphing into Alec Baldwin. A man of immense privilege claiming to know what choices the proletariat will make.

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

Can someone confirm if this features campaign coop?

 

[onQ123]

The Last of Us

That was a remake of a remaster

 

[Astray]

This is a year from now. MS will have an incentive to use GTA as a trojan horse to get people into their ecosystem.

Lol no.

No one ever raises prices just to drop them a year later rofl.

Serious question, why are you doing this to yourself?

Normally the 5 stages of grief go by faster than this, but we are seeing a worldwide clinical trial that proves copium is a hell of a drug.

 

[onQ123]

He needs to stay where he was at

 

[m14]

Lol no.

No one ever raises prices just to drop them a year later rofl.

Use this as a manta and reassure yourself with it for the next twelve months.

 

[Astray]

Use this as a manta and reassure yourself with it for the next twelve months.

Are you sure you're not the one reassuring themselves here buddy?

 

[bbw_lover87]

Ooooo my god finaly baby, playstation playaz gon be able to play the game, now imma give yall 2 weeks to play in the mp then imma fuck yall up imao, cant wait 4 halo to hit playstation and switch 2 so we can all play together lets goo

 

[Banjo64]

and that's when then the platform that's barely sold anything for 5 years, where game sales have completely fallen off a cliff, will finally come in to its own

 

[diffusionx]

Imagine being wrong about something and being so confident about it.

I've been hearing that 50% number for 10 years now. It's totally fanciful at this point in light of their total business collapse and in Europpe when the numbers were coming out it was 10:1 or even 20:1.

Drama  Thread 'PS5 is outselling Xbox Series Consoles at a rate of about 4 to 1 the last 15 months'

Sep 17, 2024

Since we got new information for LTD sales data I decide to do so math and extract the recent sales ratio.

As of June 2024 the PS5 is at 61.3M consoles and Xbox is at 28.3M consoles.

Here is the thread with this info.

WSJ - PS5 shipped 61.7M and Xbox Series 28.3M WW, as of the end of june 2024, PC Sales Falling

Yep Exclusives matter. In fact nothing else matters. Just look at Nintendo they Even can deliver a most outdated hardware ans sell it like pancakes( at proffit) just because thier exclusives. So that makes the recent acquisitions even more puzzling. Wouldn’t you want to ensure those titles...

www.neogaf.com

More Context

PS5 sold 32M as of Feb 2023

PS5 Sales Climb To 32M, Which Is Millions Behind Where PS4 Was Over Same Period Of Time

Sony sold 7.1 million PS5 consoles in the past three months.

www.gamespot.com

Xbox had sold 21M as of June...

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[JohnnyFootball]

The Xbox takeover of Playstation is complete.

it's all part of Microsoft's master plan to get people to finally buy their games.

The 70% they from each game sold on Playstation will be used to buy out Playstation.

Then all of those gamers will be forced to subscribe to Gamepass where Xbox will have over 200 million subscribers.

What then Sony Ponies? What then?

Spoiler

yes, genius this is sarcasm. my 2nd favorite -asm[/spoiler

 

[Bridges]

Have Microsoft announced anything for Switch 2 yet

If you count Activision then yes, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3+4 was at the Switch 2 reveal direct, and they have committed to putting Call of Duty on Switch 2 post acquisition

 

[Mibu no ookami]

I've been hearing that 50% number for 10 years now. It's totally fanciful at this point in light of their total business collapse and in Europpe when the numbers were coming out it was 10:1 or even 20:1.

Drama  Thread 'PS5 is outselling Xbox Series Consoles at a rate of about 4 to 1 the last 15 months'

Sep 17, 2024

Since we got new information for LTD sales data I decide to do so math and extract the recent sales ratio.

As of June 2024 the PS5 is at 61.3M consoles and Xbox is at 28.3M consoles.

Here is the thread with this info.

WSJ - PS5 shipped 61.7M and Xbox Series 28.3M WW, as of the end of june 2024, PC Sales Falling

Yep Exclusives matter. In fact nothing else matters. Just look at Nintendo they Even can deliver a most outdated hardware ans sell it like pancakes( at proffit) just because thier exclusives. So that makes the recent acquisitions even more puzzling. Wouldn’t you want to ensure those titles...

www.neogaf.com

More Context

PS5 sold 32M as of Feb 2023

PS5 Sales Climb To 32M, Which Is Millions Behind Where PS4 Was Over Same Period Of Time

Sony sold 7.1 million PS5 consoles in the past three months.

www.gamespot.com

Xbox had sold 21M as of June...

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First, I'm referring specifically to North America... and was clear about that in my commentary, so you bringing up Europe now doesn't make much sense.

If the PS5 has sold 75 million units and the XBS has sold anywhere between 25-35 million units and we take a look at Japan, we can subtract 7 million units from the PS5 and 700K from the XBS.

That brings us to 68 million and a minimum of 24.3 million.

If we assume that half of the remaining units of the PS5 were sold in the US and that's being aggressive that takes us to 34 million. And if half of the XBS were sold in the US (we know it's more than that) it would give us 12.15 million..

Even at the most aggressive, that would give Xbox at a minimum 26% market share against PlayStation.

 

[splattered]

Who dislikes Horde mode?
Did the grubs touch you?

Wait did Gears 1 even have horde mode? Seems like i remember playing it for the first time ever in Gears 2 at E3 one year...

And i LOVE horde mode

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

 

[DeepEnigma]

 

[Shubh_C63]

Its so obvious that Gears of War 2 and 3 needs a remaster before E-Day that I worry if it will ever happen.

 

[DoomGyver]

Wait did Gears 1 even have horde mode? Seems like i remember playing it for the first time ever in Gears 2 at E3 one year...

And i LOVE horde mode

Not on Gears 1. Horde started with Gears 2 (the goat).

 

[diffusionx]

First, I'm referring specifically to North America... and was clear about that in my commentary, so you bringing up Europe now doesn't make much sense.

If the PS5 has sold 75 million units and the XBS has sold anywhere between 25-35 million units and we take a look at Japan, we can subtract 7 million units from the PS5 and 700K from the XBS.

That brings us to 68 million and a minimum of 24.3 million.

If we assume that half of the remaining units of the PS5 were sold in the US and that's being aggressive that takes us to 34 million. And if half of the XBS were sold in the US (we know it's more than that) it would give us 12.15 million..

Even at the most aggressive, that would give Xbox at a minimum 26% market share against PlayStation.

And I clearly stated that the Xbox sales were a fraction of that when the PS5 started becoming more widely available which was in mid-2023.

As soon as people could buy a PS5 they basically forgot the Xbox existed.

 

[Bungie]

Day 1 ♥︎ Smart putting it on PS, maybe some will grab E-Day on PC/Xbox after enjoying this one.

 

[Nonehxc]

Only Halo remains...

Not much til each and every Xbro raises the Microsoft Flight Simulator flag as a war totem, as destiny intended.

'So you have the new Naughty Dog crappy cinematic experience? That's oh so sweet hue hue, I just did a JFK 360 No Landing Gear '

 

[MaestroMike]

I'm glad PlayStation owners will get a chance to play some gears loved playing the first three on 360 hopefully it'll drop on the switch 2 as well. this and halo should be played by everybody they shouldn't just die off because microsoft can't sell their machines. If Microsoft had a big enough base I'd rather have kept them exclusive though but this generation has been an L I blame XSS

 

[Sleepwalker]

Where are 2 and 3 MS?? I dont care which platform you put them on but I need them remastered.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

And I clearly stated that the Xbox sales were a fraction of that when the PS5 started becoming more widely available which was in mid-2023.

As soon as people could buy a PS5 they basically forgot the Xbox existed.

And I'm telling you that's just not true.

When PS5s were hard to get, PS5 and XBS were selling fairly similarly. After the PS5 was easier to get the ratio shifted closer to 2:1 in the US in average months with the ratio getting larger in certain months like when Spider-Man 2 released.

You can look at the historic estimates. You're off base.

 

[Wulfer]

Imagine being wrong about something and being so confident about it.

Imagine giving the the strongest 3rd party publisher in the world the keys to go buy more publishers! This is the path we're on. No court can stop more purchases now! MS's plan along has been to make Sony (and others) dependent on Xbox games and they're on the path to doing just that! UBi or EA who's next to fall? Sony and Nintendo can't afford them! They certainly can't out bid Microsoft!

 

[FoxMcChief]

That was a remake of a remaster

 

[Gp1]

What the average pc user get with this. Just "high quality" assets and the "dlc'? for 40 dollars?

Where are 2 and 3 MS?

plus if You add Gamepass to the Series S is the Best deal for low income people. Altought I kwon low oncome people that also get they PS5 digital because they want to play Sony's exclusives.

At launch it was a great deal, now not anymore. Series S cost almost what a digital base Ps5 cost here.

It's basically dead sales wise.

 

[diffusionx]

And I'm telling you that's just not true.

When PS5s were hard to get, PS5 and XBS were selling fairly similarly. After the PS5 was easier to get the ratio shifted closer to 2:1 in the US in average months with the ratio getting larger in certain months like when Spider-Man 2 released.

You can look at the historic estimates. You're off base.

I posted one of the historic estimates. There is no way Microsoft was selling half of what PS was, it would be a totally different situation for them if they were, because as has often been said, the PS5 is still selling really really well. You in that thread I posted and you quoted even said "it's AKSHULLY more like 3:1" lmao ok, it's actually probably more like 10:1 at this point.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

I posted one of the historic estimates. There is no way Microsoft was selling half of what PS was, it would be a totally different situation for them if they were, because as has often been said, the PS5 is still selling really really well. You in that thread I posted and you quoted even said "it's AKSHULLY more like 3:1" lmao ok, it's actually probably more like 10:1 at this point.

You're ignoring a lot of context and your math is bad...

 

[MonkD]

 

[Simpdimples]

 

[LordCBH]

This is a year from now. MS will have an incentive to use GTA as a trojan horse to get people into their ecosystem.

Almost no one's bought the current generation Xbox console but suddenly everyone will be chomping at the bit to play the worst version (Series S) of GTA6? And probably worst by a wide margin.

Lol.

 

[DeepSpace5D]

Nice, Gears 1 was awesome back in the day. I haven't played it since I had a 360 many years ago.

Will pick this up based on nostalgia, but I remember the campaign is super short so $40 is a little iffy for me. When it gets down to $20, I'll bite.

 

[Gtafans93]

How's this different from the last remaster?

It's got a new hat

 

[Sooner]

tbh, releasing remastered older games on PS to milk them for what they're worth, then releasing newer games on GP / Xbox / PC first to make them as attractive as possible and then PS later gives them 2 releases ... decent strategy I reckon given PS have the overwhelming majority in market share on console hardware.

That's not the strategy though. These just worked out that way because they released before Microsoft went third-party. Things will be day one on everything going forward.

 

[Three]

And somebody was trying to convince me that another GoW trilogy having a PS3 remaster meant it didn't really need another and here we are with a remaster of an xbox one remaster. Nowhere to be found now.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

That's not the strategy though. These just worked out that way because they released before Microsoft went third-party. Things will be day one on everything going forward.

Well, that's what's happening right now, and so it seems to be their strategy. Where have you seen them say they will go day 1 on PS for first party moving forward?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

tbh, releasing remastered older games on PS to milk them for what they're worth, then releasing newer games on GP / Xbox / PC first to make them as attractive as possible and then PS later gives them 2 releases ... decent strategy I reckon given PS have the overwhelming majority in market share on console hardware.

everything will be day and date everywhere.

this his how Phil reaches 3 Billion Gamers