• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Genshin Impact |OT| 5.0 (Natlan) - Everything Changed When the Fire Nation Arrived

Pejo

Member
Hit AR32 today. Building characters is quite a chore post 40. I was originally planning on leveling all characters that I like around the same time when I hit level 40. Then I decided to just stick with my core team at 50. Now I was just barely able to max out my "main" character to 60 with uncapped weapon and leveled talents. I think I spent upwards of 1.2 million Mora to get that far just from level 50. Absolutely brutal. I realize that the game isn't a race but I wish the Mora cost didn't scale up so quickly and so high. My artifacts are all sitting around +8 as well, it's going to be probably a few hundred thousand to level those up each.

This resource deprivation seems so counter intuitive to how a gacha based game should work. Like they should want you to keep pulling for characters, so making it such that you can only max out a single character before bankrupting yourself seems like a bad business decision. I certainly am not pulling anything else until I have better resource income. I think all of this could be alleviated if Resin regenerated faster or you had more ways to get it, or hell, even a higher max resin cap so you could stockpile it. I've been spending those resin refills we get on AR rank rewards on the Liyue leylines that give Mora, and they're a lot better now that I'm in world level 3. Still, you can only run 3 until you're out of Resin again.

The only other thing I'm a little pissed about are those elemental shards given by elite world bosses (bosses like the cubes, the big vine things, etc). When I hit world level 3, I thought I'd be showered in those resources, or at least get 3-4 per run. Turns out you get 2 of the boss-specific material, but they only give a single elemental shard and zero elemental nuggets. I fought the electric cube boss 4 times since hitting world level 3, and he hasn't given any nuggets at all. How the hell are you supposed to rank up new characters you pull if the world level increases so that the early materials don't drop anymore? There are a few in the specialty shops in the big cities, but once those are gone, it doesn't look like they reset. Has anyone found another source of the nuggets? (elemental shards with the green rarity)
 

Cracklox

Member
I only just heard about this game.

I'm not much of an anime fan and haven't even touched a JRPG nor a Zelda game for many years, but... I feel oddly drawn to this. I have some experience with grindy f2p stuff, so I sort of know what to expect on that front, but the graphic stylings, focus on exploration and reading about the elemental combat (something which I loved in the Divinity games) is screaming at me to check it out. Plus, I could use a new, fun grindfest to work into the rotation

So for zero dollars it seems like a no brainer. Downloading it now
 
  • Like
Reactions: Isa
There is something that really annoys me with Mona, when you move around as her, there is a constant emitting, twinkling noise, it sounds like if there was some kind of secret nearby, it's really distracting and annoying.


But somehow I don't see anyone else talking about it.

Barbara and Xiangling have the same problems. I know Xiangling has bells on her outfit, but I can't figure it out why Barbara does the same noises, it's just that they are quieter than Xiangling noises. It could be her Idol Spark or something like that.
 
I played for some 3 or 4 hours last night.

For a free game it is impressive yes but Im still not quite convinced.

For now it still hasnt 'clicked' with me.

Am I the only one who gets significant, frequent input lag?

For some reason, while being european, the game attributed me the 'America' server and said it was the best server for me when I tried to switch.

Can this be related? Will I be somehow 'punished' if I change now?
 
I played an unhealthy amount of hours (8+) on Sunday when I finally got a chance to dig into this game. I was AR 16 or so and ended as AR 25 after exploring the shit out of the second zone. I'm glad for maxing out my stamina on Monstadt since Liyue is a lot more about vertical exploration. I spent a good 5 hours just opening all the teleport waypoints and statues of the seven while ignoring most of the collectibles.

I'm willing to buy the season pass just to help the developers and to show my satisfaction with the game, and this comes from a guy who hardly spends on gachas. This game deserves my money.
 

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Finally finished the prologue chapters and made it to AR20 and it feels like the game is really opening up a lot more. Thinking about picking up that premium battle pass too!

Today is my birthday, and the in-game mail delivered a cake for me! Also, all the waifus (and husbandos) have a new birthday message in their profile so it's kinda neat having the in-game characters wish me a happy birthday - it's a nice touch.
 

Mossybrew

Banned
I'm going to try my luck without a bow character, people seem to like Fischl but almost every fight all I do with her is switch to her to pop out her electric bird then switch back to someone else, seems kind of a waste of a spot. That bow charge-up just takes way too long to be of use in the heat of battle.
 

Isa

Member
Finally finished the prologue chapters and made it to AR20 and it feels like the game is really opening up a lot more. Thinking about picking up that premium battle pass too!

Today is my birthday, and the in-game mail delivered a cake for me! Also, all the waifus (and husbandos) have a new birthday message in their profile so it's kinda neat having the in-game characters wish me a happy birthday - it's a nice touch.
Happy Birthday! That's cool, I was wondering what would happen. Granted I haven't played that much, but from where I'm at (AR14) its been good fun so far. The music and gfx are great, I often tend to just let it idle and enjoy the vistas.

Does anyone know when the next update, 1.1 or whatever is supposed to drop?
 

Saber

Member
Recently I ascend 3 characters. The fire spear girl, the raven archer and the water mage girl.

Keep going, getting more adventure xps so I can progress in the story.
 

GamesAreFun

Banned
I played for some 3 or 4 hours last night.

For a free game it is impressive yes but Im still not quite convinced.

For now it still hasnt 'clicked' with me.

Am I the only one who gets significant, frequent input lag?

For some reason, while being european, the game attributed me the 'America' server and said it was the best server for me when I tried to switch.

Can this be related? Will I be somehow 'punished' if I change now?

Yes, I had lag playing the base PS4 version. It was enough to deter me from the game; it's very pretty but the gameplay was not satisfying with the slight stuttering.
 

Miyazaki’s Slave

Gold Member
Played about 15 hours in total over the weekend. Most of the time I spent unlocked statues and teleport locations.
So far I am loving it....I have not spent any money yet and a few of you have mentioned the battle pass.

Which purchase is that in the store?
 

mcz117chief

Member
This game is so good though. It has basically taken up all of my gaming time.

Oh yeah, I forgot...

GO GO BARON BUNNY!

21d744b5eddc43325bdd8a8851dc9822_4365212938430783670.gif
 
Last edited:

Pejo

Member
Man, that wolf boss gets a lot harder when his damage gets ramped up. Seems that they REALLY don't want you to use melee characters in that fight in particular. Sucks you can only fight him once a week. I did manage to get some elemental nuggets from him as drops, so at least that's one source. It seems random which ones you get though, so that can kinda get sketchy if you're trying to build a specific element character.
 
S

SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
I only just heard about this game.

I'm not much of an anime fan and haven't even touched a JRPG nor a Zelda game for many years, but... I feel oddly drawn to this. I have some experience with grindy f2p stuff, so I sort of know what to expect on that front, but the graphic stylings, focus on exploration and reading about the elemental combat (something which I loved in the Divinity games) is screaming at me to check it out. Plus, I could use a new, fun grindfest to work into the rotation

So for zero dollars it seems like a no brainer. Downloading it now
Chinese games aren't anime!

Man, that wolf boss gets a lot harder when his damage gets ramped up. Seems that they REALLY don't want you to use melee characters in that fight in particular. Sucks you can only fight him once a week. I did manage to get some elemental nuggets from him as drops, so at least that's one source. It seems random which ones you get though, so that can kinda get sketchy if you're trying to build a specific element character.
He is actually tough compared to the other bosses in the game.


In case you were wondering why the music in the game was "decent".

"Much budget and time have been invested in the music of Genshin Impact. When we invited the London Philharmonic Orchestra to record the game music for us "
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Pejo

Member
The composer of the game's music is a guy who does film soundtracks in China. They really spared no expense for this game. The founder of Mihoyo states that overall budget for the game ended up exceeding $100 million. This is probably the biggest budget video game a Chinese studio has ever made.
It amazes me how many of the NPCs actually have voiced lines. And it doesn't sound like the same 4 guys trying to do different voices even.
96XZgAU.jpg



Klee: Oct 18 - Nov 7
Xiao: Nov 7 - Nov 27
Qiqi: Nov 27 - Dec 17
Keqing: Dec 17 - Jan 16
Mona: Jan 16 - Feb 5
On one hand, I'm glad the 5*s are getting featured banners. On the other hand, Mona's isn't until January. Holy fuck that's a long time away. I mainly wanted her for exploring and traversing water, but fuck I'll probably be done exploring by then lol. I wish they'd do shorter banner lengths with more frequent rotation, like weekly or bi-weekly. Also, it seems like they really want people to get that water sword dude. Two 4* featured banners with him in a row. I was hoping we'd see Beidou earlier.

That wind sword guy was apparently a beast in the beta, so I'm sure a lot will roll for him. I tried Klee out today in her side story quest, I wasn't impressed. I really want a fire mage to make my favorite team work a little better, but her skills are so slow and have such short range, it doesn't really work in the way that I want it to. It looks more and more that I'm going to be stuck with Amber. If only she got the ability to add fire to her regular arrow attacks, even through constellation.
 
S

SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
It amazes me how many of the NPCs actually have voiced lines. And it doesn't sound like the same 4 guys trying to do different voices even.

On one hand, I'm glad the 5*s are getting featured banners. On the other hand, Mona's isn't until January. Holy fuck that's a long time away. I mainly wanted her for exploring and traversing water, but fuck I'll probably be done exploring by then lol. I wish they'd do shorter banner lengths with more frequent rotation, like weekly or bi-weekly. Also, it seems like they really want people to get that water sword dude. Two 4* featured banners with him in a row. I was hoping we'd see Beidou earlier.

That wind sword guy was apparently a beast in the beta, so I'm sure a lot will roll for him. I tried Klee out today in her side story quest, I wasn't impressed. I really want a fire mage to make my favorite team work a little better, but her skills are so slow and have such short range, it doesn't really work in the way that I want it to. It looks more and more that I'm going to be stuck with Amber. If only she got the ability to add fire to her regular arrow attacks, even through constellation.
I just use Xia for fire. Amber is...eh not so good and is mostly used for puzzles. As for wind the MC has me it covered. I just need to more ??? drinks to unlock her full constellation.

 
Last edited by a moderator:

Pejo

Member
I just use Xia for fire. Amber is...eh not so good and is mostly used for puzzles. As for wind the MC has me it covered. I just need to more ??? drinks to unlock her full constellation.


I like Xia, but in my main comp, I need a ranged fire user. Maybe eventually when I can build her out and luck into her constellation, I might be able to make it work. By then, hopefully we have just a regular fire mage though, 4* would be fine. I'd like one that has good range and instant hit attacks to provide the fire status to enemies, similar as to how Lisa and Barbara play.
 

MagnesG

Banned
I really want to replace Amber for other bow users.

But then again AOE skills always trumps all.
 
Last edited:
Is there a definitive way to get certain characters now? I've only played an hour or two last week. I like MC, I like Amber, and I'm happy with my free roll as I got Kaeya. I honestly only want Diluc and either Mona or Lisa. Once I have those 4-5 characters, I think I'll be able to jump in and get really invested without worrying about having characters I don't like.
 
S

SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
On mobile alone.
Is there a definitive way to get certain characters now? I've only played an hour or two last week. I like MC, I like Amber, and I'm happy with my free roll as I got Kaeya. I honestly only want Diluc and either Mona or Lisa. Once I have those 4-5 characters, I think I'll be able to jump in and get really invested without worrying about having characters I don't like.
You get Kaeya just by playing the game. Same goes for Lisa, you literally get em after playing like 2 hours. Only Xia is permanently definitely available after you clear 3-3 on the abyss. Good luck rolling 5 star characters.
 
You get Kaeya just by playing the game. Same goes for Lisa, you literally get em after playing like 2 hours. Only Xia is permanently definitely available after you clear 3-3 on the abyss. Good luck rolling 5 star characters.

So my free roll got me a character I'd get eventually? Or does everyone get him? Just wondering if I should restart. Thanks for the response!
 
Last edited:
S

SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
So my free roll got me a character I'd get eventually? Or does everyone get him? Just wondering if I should restart. Thanks for the response!
Everyone gets him as he is a starter character via the story. But getting extra characters is good, even if they are duplicates. Not sure about re-rolling I'm on console and I just stuck to what I got.
 

Pejo

Member
So my free roll got me a character I'd get eventually? Or does everyone get him? Just wondering if I should restart. Thanks for the response!
Yea you should probably try again. The "free" characters that everybody gets through the story are:
-Main character
-Amber
-Kaeya
-Lisa

Then from the first beginner gacha roll you are guaranteed to get:
-Noelle
Then the second beginner gacha roll guarantees another 4*

Then once you beat Abyss 3-3 (this is more for when you hit adventurer rank 20-25, no rush to get her quick)
-Xiangling

Then if you can manage to get to Adventurer Rank 20, before version 1.1 release (no date yet, TBA)
-Barbara

That's all the freebies curently. Diluc is a 5* and will take considerable rerolling to get him. That said, if you have the time, it's free to do so.

Ok GAF - Challenge time. For those of you that are world level 3 or above, go to this island marked with the skull with your best team and report the outcome (no running away like a coward).


7NtbpUJ.png
 
S

SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
Yea you should probably try again. The "free" characters that everybody gets through the story are:
-Main character
-Amber
-Kaeya
-Lisa

Then from the first beginner gacha roll you are guaranteed to get:
-Noelle
Then the second beginner gacha roll guarantees another 4*

Then once you beat Abyss 3-3 (this is more for when you hit adventurer rank 20-25, no rush to get her quick)
-Xiangling

Then if you can manage to get to Adventurer Rank 20, before version 1.1 release (no date yet, TBA)
-Barbara

That's all the freebies curently. Diluc is a 5* and will take considerable rerolling to get him. That said, if you have the time, it's free to do so.

Ok GAF - Challenge time. For those of you that are world level 3 or above, go to this island marked with the skull with your best team and report the outcome (no running away like a coward).


7NtbpUJ.png
Clear 3-3 first.

uIRKQND.gif
 

Rambone

Member
Just leaving my post poop here. I made a PS4 and PC account and both got them to Adventure Level 15. I can say that I have had a pretty good time and look forward to playing some more. I just have to remember that life isn't a race and to take my time doing the little stuff, like cooking, checking out cool scenery and of course murdering churibohobs.
 

Pejo

Member
wug6ri.gif

Zhongli.

lol no just use wind to send ppl flying
That guy's moveset is sick. Here's a video on the leak for 1.1:



*edit* end of this vid has codes for free stuff, redeemed on the official site:

GENSHIN1006A is the americas code.

 
Last edited:
S

SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
That guy's moveset is sick. Here's a video on the leak for 1.1:



*edit* end of this vid has codes for free stuff, redeemed on the official site:

GENSHIN1006A is the americas code.


Neat. But I'm playing on the Ps4. :(

Also just realized these people all worship fucking demons.

Barbatos, Morax, ect ect.
 

Pejo

Member
Neat. But I'm playing on the Ps4. :(

Also just realized these people all worship fucking demons.

Barbatos, Morax, ect ect.
Interesting that you noticed that too. I wonder if there's gonna be a big plot twist about halfway through.

Looks like everyone might be getting a free Fischl on patch 1.1, so rejoice.
 
S

SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
Interesting that you noticed that too. I wonder if there's gonna be a big plot twist about halfway through.
Plot twist we are Lucifer split in two and Paimon is Satan. Or since they are going with demons from the Goetia...Baal?

lol nah

Paimon is already a demon though...

The Goetia and Weyer begin entries on King Paimon noting that he is quite obedient to Lucifer.

King Paimon appears as the ninth spirit in the Goetia, the twenty-second spirit in the Pseudomonarchia Daemonum, and in the Dictionnaire Infernal. In the Liber Officiorum Spirituum, he is first listed as the sixth spirit and later as the third king.

The Goetia, Weyer, de Plancy, Livre des Esperitz, Liber Officiorum Spirituum, and Sloane MS 3824 all rank Paimon as a king. The Livre des Espiritz, Sloane MS 3824, and the Grimoire of Pope Honorius specify that King Paimon is king of the west. In the Book of Abramelin (where his appearance is given no description), he is instead one of the eight dukes.

The Goetia, Weyer, and de Plancy warn that if King Paimon appears alone, a sacrifice must be made to summon Bebal and Abalam, two kings who serve under him but do not always accompany him. These three sources state that he rules 200 legions of spirits, some of which are of the order of Angels and the rest Powers. The Livre des Esperitz, on the other hand, credits him with just 25 legions of spirits.Sloane MS 3824 mentions him as commanding a "bishop" named Sperion, among other spirits.

Critical editions of the Lesser Key of Solomon list him as a former Dominion. Weyer notes a confusion over whether he was a former Dominion or Cherub. According to Thomas Rudd, King Paimon is opposed by the Shemhamphorasch angel Haziel.

Practising occultist Carroll "Poke" Runyon suggests that the name ultimately derives from "a Middle Eastern Pagan Goddess", on the grounds that some manuscripts depict King Paimon as a young man riding a camel, and that the name "Paimon" purportedly meant "a tinkling sound" in an unspecified language, in turn a claimed reference to Isis.[14] This is part of an overall claim that the Lesser Key of Solomon was by Solomon and rooted in Mesopotamian mythology.





We SMT now?
Looks like everyone might be getting a free Fischl on patch 1.1, so rejoice.
Cool I'll only need 3 more fishes to finish the constellation.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Nattan

Member
Ok GAF - Challenge time. For those of you that are world level 3 or above, go to this island marked with the skull with your best team and report the outcome (no running away like a coward).
Wasn't that bad with Diluc! Getting tornado spammed ain't fun though.
 
Wow, no Diluc banner in sight. Maybe I should keep rolling on the Venti banner then, in hopes that I can get some constellations for him.
 
Top Bottom