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Genshin Impact |OT| 5.0 (Natlan) - Everything Changed When the Fire Nation Arrived

Pejo

Member
Speaking of gliders: I didn't participate in that Twitch BS to get the red-themed KFC glider. Are these f**kers really going to make us wait until Natlan releases to get a red glider? I'm saying this as someone who recently pulled Yae & Yoimiya and is finding the glider color selection lacking.
I'd guess yes. I, too, skipped the "opportunity" to support twitch streamers and that glider has never come back, and the community at large has forgotten about it. So wait for Natlan or the next Pizza Hut/KFC collab I guess.

So I did those "build-a-dungeon" stages, the prebuilt ones. Good ideas in there, which makes it all the more frustrating that we don't have weekly raids with co-op. That's exactly what I want and supply feedback for (lol). Part puzzle, part exploration, part combat. I even like the idea of finding buff zones and weakening the bosses by breaking the totems etc. But it needs to be fresh every week and a little harder than the zero-brain effort from the samples. That would be something I'd actually look forward to each reset. Surely they could find 1 dev to build these dungeons once a week for a reasonable salary.
 

Pejo

Member
I just ran up and slapped the monsters. I ignored the mechanics. Went down in a few minutes even when they were still buffed.
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crumbs

Member
Good point brought up by reddit today:





I know a few people in this thread were achievement hunters.

So ended up doing this to clear some of the remaining elemental specialist achievements. What I learned is the superconduct is the least consistent to trigger, at least for those achievements.
 
Ah fuck, I forgot the second stage of the event today.
There is no second stage yet. We get a new one every other day.

My Nahida and Nilou beat that thunder thing in 26 seconds for 6000 points. Curious to see how the others will fare. These events really just exist for whales to show off their overpowered C6 characters. Fortunately the two highest tiers of rewards are just some stupid ore.

I recently saw a vid comparing Honkai Star Rail to Genshin. Although many of the systems and mechanics are similar, they've made some interesting changes in HSR. Instead of a strongbox, you can scrap artifacts and then spend it to get for example a crown or goblet, whichever you need. You can even pick the main stat. You can also just buy signature weapons/refinements in the shop with starglitter currency. They also allow you to (re)play older events, so you won't miss out on rewards or story stuff if you don't play for a while.

I hope some of these changes make it to Genshin soon. Because the mechanics are so similar, I don't think there'd be much problem implementing these changes.
 

Pejo

Member
I recently saw a vid comparing Honkai Star Rail to Genshin. Although many of the systems and mechanics are similar, they've made some interesting changes in HSR. Instead of a strongbox, you can scrap artifacts and then spend it to get for example a crown or goblet, whichever you need. You can even pick the main stat.
The scrapping thing is true and very useful. But main stat picks are only with extremely limited items, and they don't guarantee fuck all for any substats. They've only given 2 of them so far since launch and each character equips 6 artifacts, so the stat selection thing is just a misdirection on how awful the artifact farming (still) is.
You can also just buy signature weapons/refinements in the shop with starglitter currency. They also allow you to (re)play older events, so you won't miss out on rewards or story stuff if you don't play for a while.
Yea this is also an improvement, but there are also tons of ways to farm/acquire competetive 4* and 5* weapons for free just by playing the weekly modes. I mention this just to say that for the standard banner characters, their equipment is much less mandatory than for the limited ones. And of course, limited characters equipment can not be outright bought.
I hope some of these changes make it to Genshin soon. Because the mechanics are so similar, I don't think there'd be much problem implementing these changes.
Yea there are a lot of QoL things for Honkai over Genshin. Biggest one for me is the increased max stamina limit so you don't feel like you're trapped to log in at least twice a day, quicker and more intuitive party management (which we're kinda getting), friend supporter character borrow system, and lots of great long-term farming goals that don't require a ton of time investment per day/week. Genshin desperately needs a long grind for something worthwhile, and Star Rail has a nice selection of things to grind.

Star Rail's biggest detractors are limited character movesets and niches (good decision by them because it forces you to roll for more characters to do more things instead of having characters like Bennett who was just universally useful - but terrible for players), and the character building grind is somehow orders of magnitude worse. It'd be like the equivalent of doing a talent book domain in genshin and getting 2 green books and 50% chance at a blue at max difficulty when each character requires 8 purple books to gain 1 talent level.
 

Fuz

Banned
I did a pull because of boredom and because I like Heizou and hoped to get some constellation to start testing him properly.
First pull, a Xianling (C6 since ages) and that little radish-tosser shit. Ok, she's C2 now, it's all good.
...I'm still 60 pulls from pity, just another pull, no big deal...
Xianling and the water twink (also C6 since ages).
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Xianling and a fucking Mona, who's now C4.
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One Flute (R7)
TWO FUCKING XIANLING


I stopped there while my pupils were burning in hatred.


So tell me guys, why am I stupid?
 
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crumbs

Member
No kidding, tons of info leaked today, too much stuff to list. Looks like a lot of older designs for already released characters were also leaked out.
 

crumbs

Member
Still not loving the Fontaine design themes from what I'm seeing in the leaks, so fussy and over-designed. The environmental designs look more promising.

Potential archon skins

 

Pejo

Member
Damn I wake up and it's meltdown leaks time.

Honestly, there are very very few that I actually like in all of those leaks.

We were fuckin' robbed of Heizou though. This was his original design.

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Now that looks like a detective, not the ponytail twink we ended up getting.

*edit*

Neat, Childe's teacher that lives in the Abyss, Skirk:
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Fuz

Banned
Damn I wake up and it's meltdown leaks time.

Honestly, there are very very few that I actually like in all of those leaks.

We were fuckin' robbed of Heizou though. This was his original design.

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Now that looks like a detective, not the ponytail twink we ended up getting.

*edit*

Neat, Childe's teacher that lives in the Abyss, Skirk:
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That fur is fucking awful, 100% sure if they went with this design they'd have chose fur.

Anyway, I hate them all, but I don't think this comes as a surprise. They even ruined the only decent one, the Robin Hood girl.
 

Pejo

Member
Aw man, we were robbed for Nahida too. I like some of these:

Right one here:
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Left one here:
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These:
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They all fit the India/Arabia/Egypt etc theme way better than the one we got.

*edit*

Cloud Retainer looks like she's definitely coming? and so am I

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*edit*

A few more that I like:

That Inazuma girl that was hinted at, supposed to come at 3.8 but then was trashed/delayed:
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Captain R final(?) Design?
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This whole page is concept art for 1-2 Hexezerkel witches:
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New Fontaine Jailer girl (she was in early leaks, but more info):
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Apparently Guizhong is coming back, alongside Cloud Retainer:
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New Musketeer male. I actually like this one quite a bit. Hope they don't gay him up like Alhaitham/Kaveh:
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And quite possibly the best news... concepts for a new male body type, and it's finally a non-beanpole male:
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Fuz

Banned
Aw man, we were robbed for Nahida too. I like some of these:

Right one here:
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Left one here:
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These:
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They all fit the India/Arabia/Egypt etc theme way better than the one we got.
Yeah, they're also harder to animate than a white, featureless shuttlecock ball.

Lazy as fuck, but why shouldn't they when their "fans" are so retarded that they're rewarding them for billions?

EDIT: In all due honesty and to be fair to them, one of the main reasons for it and for all the boring NPCs, might be saving installation space. Which is understandable.
 
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Pejo

Member
A few more that I like:

That Inazuma girl that was hinted at, supposed to come at 3.8 but then was trashed/delayed:
4t66lp.png


Captain R final(?) Design?
qWWFvlz.png


This whole page is concept art for 1-2 Hexezerkel witches:
6POq9kj.png


New Fontaine Jailer girl (she was in early leaks, but more info):
m9nnem.jpg


Apparently Guizhong is coming back, alongside Cloud Retainer:
5xvx2o.png


New Musketeer male. I actually like this one quite a bit. Hope they don't gay him up like Alhaitham/Kaveh:
dococb.jpg
 

Pejo

Member
Looks like a failed Sumeru character that was pretty close to release.

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Fontaine areas concept art. I like the big liminal city with the obelisks. (it's an imgur album, you hover over it and an arrow appears to scroll to the next picture)

 
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Crimsondusk

Member
A few more that I like:

Captain R final(?) Design?
qWWFvlz.png


This whole page is concept art for 1-2 Hexezerkel witches:
6POq9kj.png


New Fontaine Jailer girl (she was in early leaks, but more info):
m9nnem.jpg


Apparently Guizhong is coming back, alongside Cloud Retainer:
5xvx2o.png
Ah, that explains why I hated most of them witches. But everything else I petty much agree with you.
 
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crumbs

Member
I'd be surprised if Captain R's thighs end up looking like that in-game.

For dead characters like Guizhong, what explanation will they use for bringing them back? Leyline ooze or Abyss shenanigans?
 
Kinda interesting to see the concept art for the characters. A lot of them are too ambitious for what you can realistically put in this game. That's why a lot of designs are ultimately simplified, I think. You can also see how decent designs are ultimately stuck in the twink mold to appease fujos. Waaaaay too many twinks in these leaks too. And they all look awful, what a suprise.

Apart from that it's hard to get too excited. Because who knows which ones get to be 5-stars, which ones will get shitty kits and which ones will end up added to the standard roster. Just seeing the character isn't enough.
 

Pejo

Member
I'd be surprised if Captain R's thighs end up looking like that in-game.

For dead characters like Guizhong, what explanation will they use for bringing them back? Leyline ooze or Abyss shenanigans?
Don't you take those thighs from me. Out of all of these leaks, there are so many covered/censored/boring female designs. I need those thighs as SOMETHING to look forward to.

There was a theory that Sandrone, the Fatui Harbinger, was the puppet/robot thing and the creature it's controlling is actually Guizhong. There is an uncanny resemblance:


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Pejo

Member
Man, what could have been:
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Not even salacious or anything, but actually looks like a summer outfit. And this was before the censorgate happened with all the mondstadt characters. Fucking CCP.

*edit*

Fake Fake Saber Saber - I can't remember which of you was a Signora fan but apparently.. She's returning in Natlan.

 
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Pejo

Member
Damn, another cooler Wriothesley concept compared to what we got. Why did they have to make him look like a tweaker twink instead of a proper Nomura-tier edgelord?

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*edit*

Nice lineup of the Harbingers:
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Pejo

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New article posted on Hoyolab:


A few highlights:
As the story progresses, Travelers will discover and explore underground regions. During these moments, they might find themselves lost and uncertain as to which way they should go. As such, we will introduce the Multi-Layered Map function in Version 4.0. Now, everyone can use the Map to gain more concise details regarding whether they are in a new or unlocked area.

Certain areas might be complex in terrain and encompass multiple layers. Travelers can switch across these layers in the Map when the time comes to better view the area.

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Maybe this will help your sister, deanote666 deanote666 :
Quest menu display optimizations: Adjusted the sorting rules for certain Quests and optimized how red dots are displayed.

After the Version 3.8 update, red dots will be displayed more intuitively and conveniently for Quests. At the same time, the rules for sorting the Archon Quests or certain other Quests will be optimized, allowing Travelers to discover their objectives faster.
Aside from the coming optimizations, the concerns that everyone mentioned regarding Quest Characters being occupied and the complexity of prerequisite quests' completion priority have been noted by the development team. They are currently discussing the necessary optimization plans, and we would like to first share our thoughts with everyone:

· Currently, the occupied quest indications are rather simplistic. Travelers might need to additionally track and sort through related quests.

Developers therefore decided to plan to add a more detailed redirection guide for the affected quests in the quest menu to help Travelers to resolve their occupied quests.

Additionally, we also noticed that Travelers may unlock multiple Story Quests concurrently to use up their Story Keys, resulting in a build up of quests and creating interconnected preoccupations between them. To deal with this situation, the developers plan to separate the unlocking and accepting sections of a Story Quest into two steps. After the adjustments, after unlocking the Story Quest, Travelers will no longer automatically accept them, thereby prevent Travelers from wasting any keys while also preventing the inter-quest congestion.

They also say they're working on way to make the temporary minigames accessible permanently, but not until they find a way to flesh them out. It makes sense considering most "events" these days are just 3-4 minigames that get old while you're still in the middle of playing them.
 

deanote666

Member
Thanks, Pejo Pejo , but my sis is irreparably glitched, and mihoyo won't fix it.

It isn't a matter of finding the quest in the list. The game thinks she already completed them.

She glitched from the giant robot fight in chapter iii, part v to naming wanderer.

Hopefully new archon quests will work normally...
 

Pejo

Member
People are getting their Statue of Her Excellency, the Almighty Narukami Ogosho, God of Thunder, apparently. This was posted on reddit earlier. Pretty cute but not worth the price they were asking.

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