Lufiaddict
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*stares at OP's pic* Did they just put the wig of SAC's Motoko on the head of Oshii's Motoko?
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Ghost in the Shell Arise announced - Details updated in OP
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AgentOtaku
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OMG YES
YES
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!
Ghost in the Shell IP is pretty much only anime I still give a shit about outside Studio Ghibli
Still pissed that GitS: Innocence has no actual in-print North American DVD or Blu-ray. Nasty gap in my collection T__T
YES
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!
Ghost in the Shell IP is pretty much only anime I still give a shit about outside Studio Ghibli
Still pissed that GitS: Innocence has no actual in-print North American DVD or Blu-ray. Nasty gap in my collection T__T
XANDER CAGE
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The new Motoko design is awesome. I can't wait to enjoy a season of GitS without the stupid battle-swimsuit.
Confusion Illusion
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I'm wondering if S.A.C blu rays will ever be released in North America. I know the Japanese blu rays are dual audio, but those prices ~__~
I'll give you the jeans, the hips don't look correctly proportioned to belong to her. But I think the art style is different enough from Akira other than the color pallet.
Femmeworth
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Technosteve
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her boobs are too small, i can't fap to her ;_;
Lufiaddict
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XANDER CAGE
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Sounds in-line with the first half of the manga, then.
I mean I'm merely guessing here but given that it's called "Arise" and she looks a tad younger than in the movie or SAC, I'd imagine we're looking at a show that's going to mine a different time period.
Yeah it's going to be interesting to see if this is an origin story of sorts. It's has to be going for an entirely different feel because the Major was always sort of a hard ass even before she joined section 9. I wish they had posted and actual screen or a clip so we could see the design in motion.
XANDER CAGE
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Also is Cornelius actually doing the soundtrack, or just that audiovisual presentation thing? Because man, the scenes that call for ambient music are going to be amazing.
Cornelius is composing the music for GitS Arise.
XANDER CAGE
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Dat mechanical animation. Too bad it's all going to be CGI in the new show
SAC already had that curse, unfortunately. Still, the fact that the dude's responsible for Misato's End of Evangelion hallway walk and some of the best action shots of Innocence fills me with some confidence.
Government funded. Doesn't count. Socialist anime.
He also directed the second Kuroko OP, which was awful.
This is still his commercial directorial debut.
The swimsuit was indeed stupid looking, but the leather jacket and the rest of the design were cool.
mightynine
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I think the segments after each SAC episode covered that.
XANDER CAGE
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I definitely like Stand Alone Complex's Motoko, but too often it felt like her design was exploited for cheap "sexy!" moments rather than it saying anything about her character, which is what Oshii's Ghost in the Shell excelled at. The nudity in that film made total sense, but SAC occasionally felt like it was going for cheap thrills with it's T&A shots.
Not that I have anything against cheap thrills, mind, but they feel way out of place in Ghost in the Shell. I wish I could launch the cat burglar episode into the sun and get more interesting, well written episodes about her character's sexuality instead.
like the one with the kid what the hell was going on there
True that, i think my favorite design was in the Oshii movies, tbh.
Especially the face:
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I don't disagree.
The manga was also full of sweaty sex, like Shirow loves to draw, but they still felt more in place with the narrative, than what we had in SAC.
If they were to explore sexuality from a cyborg pov, even in a very sexy and graphic way, i wouldn't have problems with that, ass shots though feel just stupid and out of place in a random action scene.
Femmeworth
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Jeez, both you and pizzaroll are neocons.Government funded. Doesn't count. Socialist anime.
I agree, love Hiroyuki Okiura's character designs.
True that, i think my favorite design was in the Oshii movies, tbh.
Especially the face:
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Hiroyuki Okiura isn't walking through that door, I'm afraid.
I think there's a fairly good chance that he'll do some animation for it.
Funky Papa
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True that, i think my favorite design was in the Oshii movies, tbh.
Especially the face:
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To each her own. Oshii's style was closer to the manga, but also fit better considering its budget and the overall level of detail. The TV show had to cut some corners after all.
ComputerMKII
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But she looks more humanoid, which I like.
XANDER CAGE
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True that, i think my favorite design was in the Oshii movies, tbh.
Especially the face:
YES:
NO:
I don't disagree.
The manga was also full of sweaty sex, like Shirow loves to draw, but they still felt more in place with the narrative, than what we had in SAC.
If they were to explore sexuality from a cyborg pov, even in a very sexy and graphic way, i wouldn't have problems with that, ass shots though feel just stupid and out of place in a random action scene.
Oshii/Okiura's is definitely my personal favorite, although I also love manga Motoko just because it fits perfectly with the more anarchic tone of the manga.
That's the issue I have with SAC, it's an excellent show but it swings wildly between the grim tone of the Oshii movie and the cartoony tone of the manga and does both a disservice because of it.
AgentOtaku
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Yeah, I still remember when I first saw on Amazon what american DID get with those truncated movies
..wtf, really!?
Sickboy007
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What's the manga where she's a lesbian sea captain, 1.5 or Man Machine Interface?
AgentOtaku
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would watch =P
XANDER CAGE
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Neither. You need to find a certain print run of the Dark Horse translation, I believe. It's part of the first tankobon/graphic novel collection.
AgentOtaku
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So yeah, I just actually started my 2nd GiG set despite having bought it years ago ...yeah, I know
Anyway, just caught the episode you're talking about and yeah, that shit was duuuumb
Sickboy007
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I have the uncensored euro run but it's been a while. I remember the art being quite something.
Of course i didn't expect that level of animations or even the near perfect anatomies, but i think they purposefully stepped away from her more detached and robotic look.
I still enjoyed SAC a ton, mind you.
XANDER CAGE
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So yeah, I just actually started my 2nd GiG set despite having bought it years ago ...yeah, I know
Anyway, just caught the episode you're talking about and yeah, that shit was duuuumb
Second Gig is otherwise pretty good, but that episode is terrible.
The best part of it is Batou's face in the corner.
â Narayan
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Cool.
XANDER CAGE
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New design is at least miles better than Blu Ray Motoko's hilarious butchering of one of the best scenes from Stand Alone Complex.
Gentle Christ what is this
How was that btw? The 3D look is a huge turnoff for me, but Kamiyama is one of the few names I follow in anime, so any new work from him automatically ends up on my radar. Has a blu release date been announced yet?
I actually thought the show itself was fine, it was the movies that were fucking awful, which (for me) has always been Kamiyama's biggest weakness: he's absolutely terrible at endings.
ComputerMKII
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I've only watched the Oshii films. Am I missing anything?
XANDER CAGE
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You've seen the best there is, but SAC is still a good TV show.
Not really, no.
The Return of
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Yeah, The Tv show which is the best
Don't think there is a home video release announced yet. I posted extensive impressions here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44946839&postcount=2902
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44973473&postcount=3428
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