Ghost in the Shell director Mamoru Oshii says political correctness has made western games ‘terrible’

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Ghost in the Shell director Mamoru Oshii says political correctness has made western games ‘terrible’

In a recent interview, legendary anime film director Mamoru Oshii called out "political correctness" saying that he has a "strong aversion" to it in his work. Oshii is famous for his work throughout…
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My apologies in advance if this is deemed political, mods can then feel free to remove the thread.

For those that don't want to read the article. This is a snippet of what he said:
Oshii: Political correctness started from the idea of giving legitimacy to the socially weak. There is nothing wrong with that. In a mature society, it is a natural responsibility. However, the problem is that it has taken that as its starting point and made the socially weak into the strong.

Oshii: They were given priority in getting into school, and priority in finding a job. What's more, the companies that advised them charged them ridiculous amounts in consulting fees. Game companies ask for hundreds of millions of yen from them.

Oshii: Basically, it's based on admiration! If you deny admiration, entertainment loses its reason for existence as entertainment. In the past, even if you said "beautiful" people would say it was discriminatory. Western games are really terrible, political correctness
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Inb4 people that don't know fuck all about Mamoru Oshii, the purple syphillis, start flinging their macrobiotic shit against him. Or if they know about him, melting their dry brain through their ears trying to pin something on him.

It will be very funny to see them try burn him at the stake, the OG that took lubricated lesbian Motoko Kusanagi and her story and made her a flagbearer of transhumanism in the most beautiful way possible. 😎
 
Agreed, I'm team west as I grew up in the U.S watching awesome movies, cartoons, games. For games the west use to have amazing artworks just not the tech at the time to make good graphics. But now some of the western game company are purposely making bad characters.Not just in appearance but also in personalities too at least the more popular ones.

If the west actually turn back to the better mindset than it'll be far better. Witcher 3 was the last time it really got great characters. Captain Titus and Ratchet are still great for the type of games they represent at least. Although I'm still team west now because of modded. fallout and Elder Scroll games. No amount of eastern games will ever overtake them.
 
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Who is this guy? No way. The GAF folks in the Yotei thread are saying we're just paranoid. There is no agenda and western games are as awesome as ever.
 
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So has CGI in anime.

I'd rather deal with type 1&2 bodies in a character creator than look at ugly CG yack anime.
 
He hit the nail on the head.

You're almost forced to applaud the weak. Corporations started to recruit them by means of virtue signaling. Gaming design adapted to it, no more power fantasy with sexy looking characters, or suggestive themes. Instead, uglified characters and forced same sex scenes. Sweet Baby thrives for a reason and I don't think they're being consulted by publishers of eastern developed games.

The result is characters like Fable girl being the norm here. While Korea said fuck you and released Stellar Blade. Let people enjoy and make what they want, you don't have to buy it if you feel offended by perfect female bodies.
 
Pretty much. Political correctness, DEI, etc.... is really just gov or company policies that dumb things down to boost the people struggling in hopes they can land on their own feet. At the expense of more qualified people or blunt answers.

It just comes down to how much lower can the bar be set to appease anyone even farther down the ladder to boost the people finding jobs or have feelings that are easily bruised.
 
His is correct.

Remasters of old games are destroying new games. And even then they are trying to throw stupidity into those now as well.
 
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No problem with the thread, but why that 'game dev' tag? Oshii never worked on video game production (though Production I.G., which created several of the films he directed, did).
 
I'm not type of person who calls everything little thing "woke" but western entertainment media are absolutely suffering from whole political correctness…..especially Disney movies, they are now insufferable.
 
StreetsofBeige said:
Pretty much. Political correctness, DEI, etc.... is really just gov or company policies that dumb things down to boost the people struggling in hopes they can land on their own feet. At the expense of more qualified people or blunt answers.

It just comes down to how much lower can the bar be set to appease anyone even farther down the ladder to boost the people finding jobs or have feelings that are easily bruised.
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It's a slow-burn way to "seize the means of production."
 
Reddit and Purple site is going to have a shit fit.

Welp, Ghost in the Shell is persona non grata now there.


And yeah, any overbearing preachiness is fucking awful in art/fiction.
 
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Who is this guy? No way. The GAF folks in the Yotei thread are saying we're just paranoid. There is no agenda and western games are as awesome as ever.
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And whats political correct in Yotei or agenda? A female character? So just like Ghost in the Shell that this guy directed? Every retarded complaint i see about Yotei is because the crazy english actress, but i havent seen anyone complain about how ugly she looks in game, cuz she actually looks better in game than IRL.

BTW the dude is absolutely correct. DEI is killing entertainment art left and right, from games, to movies to tv series. And they are all flopping and getting ppl fired. Can this also happen to Ghost of Yotei? Yes, but so far from what was shown in the game, nothing indicates forced DEI or anything. The plot of the game is pretty much the same as Kill Bill. Girl gets fucked up by a group of ppl, she survives, makes a list with the name of all of them and go hunt them down 1 by 1.
 
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And whats political correct in Yotei or agenda? A female character? So just like Ghost in the Shell that this guy directed? Every retarded complaint i see about Yotei is because the crazy english actress, but i havent seen anyone complain about how ugly she looks in game, cuz she actually looks better in game than IRL.
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And, she looks more fitting on how a woman warrior would look. She's not a tea house concubine.
 
That's quite a generalization. There are tons of Western games released every year ranging from low budget mobile games to AAAA console games. Where are all these terrible games that are the new norm but not the exception? and what makes them terrible, the political correctness or critical flaws in the game itself? If they're selling well and better than well, does that make them not terrible, or are they terrible nonetheless?
 
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Pretty much. Political correctness, DEI, etc.... is really just gov or company policies that dumb things down to boost the people struggling in hopes they can land on their own feet. At the expense of more qualified people or blunt answers.

It just comes down to how much lower can the bar be set to appease anyone even farther down the ladder to boost the people finding jobs or have feelings that are easily bruised.
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It's promoting equal outcomes regardless of input, effort, or ability. A concept that's always doomed to fail.
 
Aint this shit from 2021 when they asked a bunch of questions about Trump.
Im pretty sure this line of answers stems from him stating he gets why some people like Trump, because he doesnt give a damn about political correctness.



What you really should have quoted is him saying he wants to play pretty bitches in games.
 
Judge Magister said:
I'm glad to see you here Sir., so affirmative. (y)
But when i criticized Silent Hill 2 Remake's Maria redesign / censorship you said it was ok, that they would add the original dress later on. Well where is it?! :messenger_grinning_smiling:
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I never said it "wasn't censorship." I said they would probably add it via DLC like Capcom if they were smart. Good thing for you, mods exist since they don't seem so smart.

It's called, being hopeful.
 
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Biggest problem with PolCor is the general lack of self-awareness and self-criticism required to actually create interesting narratives.

How could you possibly create an interesting, complex, multi-layered character belonging in some minority group if you're too afraid of dwelving into the darker elements involved, for doing so could be seen as a generalized attack on said minority?
How can you write a flawed - thus interesting - person if the ones demanding it be a speficif type of person want it to represent the entire group, rather than let them be their own individual?
How could you possibly separate a class of people from the context that shapes them, for that context is what those demanding their inclusion want gone in the first place?

PolCor is where any level of depth gets filled with shiny, purple-colored sand.

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So why was Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 so well received?
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How is that woke? Even the steam forums generally agree it isn't woke and that already says a lot.
 
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