Mercenary09
Member
The thing is we have official sales sources that show that the game has continued to sell well. So what exactly else do you need?
Ghost of Tsushima Hits Over 8 Million Copies Sold
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assurdum
Banned
Believe whatever make you feel better. Still I suspect sales are not that good as expected. Not to say they are bad eh but typically when a game sold well the company has the habit to update frequently the sales figure of a successful IP. The way how they handle the figure sales of TLOU2 is a bit suspicious. Again I'm not saying it has sold badly but I suspect not exceptionally how they expected initially.
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tommib
Banned
They want Jim Ryan to tweet: go Woke go broke.
Mercenary09
Member
Soooo you realize everything I said came from an official source right? We have actual sales charts that 100% show which game sold more yet you people want to act like that's just some Neogaf user making something up. The ignorance here is sad
Average GAF user trying to explain absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence for another game that is unrelated to the topic.
Mercenary09
Member
Um I'm believing the official sales charts...you are believing some nonsense that exists in your head. Pretty clear which one here is right.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
Average GAF user trying to explain why no official numbers on a topic about official numbers mean nothing by calling you ignorant.
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carlosrox
Banned
Very interested in this game but I am turned off by death animations, lack of real gore, what looks to be repetitive gameplay, etc.
However I'm crazy about the setting, visuals, and presentation. I'm sure the gameplay is good enough but seems a bit derivative.
Glad this has been a big success though. There should be more games with backdrops like this.
Hope to eventually get the PS5 version.
However I'm crazy about the setting, visuals, and presentation. I'm sure the gameplay is good enough but seems a bit derivative.
Glad this has been a big success though. There should be more games with backdrops like this.
Hope to eventually get the PS5 version.
Kydd BlaZe
Member
Well deserved. Was one of my favorite games to come out in 2020. Iki Island DLC and PS5 update were a blast as well. Happy for Sucker Punch and I hope we see a sequel soon.
Fake
Member
Come on, Fake. You can be better than this:
NPD reveals the best-selling games of 2020 in the U.S.
The best-selling games of 2020 features a lot of Call of Duty, Nintendo, and other familiar names as sales soared through the year.venturebeat.com
"The Last of Us: Part II finished 2020 as the year's best-selling PlayStation exclusive, while also ranking as the sixth best-selling title overall," said Piscatella. "The Last of Us: Part II now ranks as the third best-selling Sony-published game in U.S. history in dollar sales, trailing only Marvel's Spider-Man, and 2018's God of War."
Numbers?
Again, lets, move, on. Read the op title, stick with that conversation.
Valt7786
Member
The animations are a thing with sucker punch, for some reason. Their games would feel so much better with some physics applied to bodies etc but since Infamous 1 they've never had them and it doesn't help the game in the slightest.
Other than that though, this was probably my game of the generation, fucking loved every minute of it.
Fake
Member
Average GAF user trying to explain why no official numbers on a topic about official numbers mean nothing by calling you ignorant.
Is hopeless. I don't even know why they bring TLOUS2 to every god damn thread.
tommib
Banned
Yes, let's move on the conversation but first let me FUD a little bit to ask for "numbers?" despite sales report. How clever! You're an idiot.
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Saber
Newd Member
Are you guys done pushing something that has nothing to do with Ghost?Why the need of comparation for the sake of downplaying the game? The game sold 8 millions, isn't that enought reason to be happy?
Or are you guys here just to provoke wars by pushing a game that it has nothing to do with this thread? Theres a "ignore thread" button at the top, no need to do that here.
Or are you guys here just to provoke wars by pushing a game that it has nothing to do with this thread? Theres a "ignore thread" button at the top, no need to do that here.
Fake
Member
I feel like you just want to enter on the thread to get offended. Calm down. There is a ignore button if you wish btw.
tommib
Banned
Would never ignore idiocy. It's quite entertaining.
Fake
Member
Finally we can agree. Lets move on before the mod strike the thread.
Mercenary09
Member
We show them number charts with TLOU2 higher than GoT and they still ask "numbers?" You can't make this stupidity up.
Dismemberment and blood not gore enough?
assurdum
Banned
What nonsense exactly I have figured out, outside that hurt you? I don't think to suspect ND expected more higher sales for TLOU2 than what they actually got it, it's completely out of the world looking how scarce are their updates about the sales figures of the game.
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Werewolfgrandma
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Who said that? Most of the people I know who bought it did so because of the theme.Someone thought Japanese flavor has no broad appeal and would hinder the game's sales...
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Switch fanboys are already an endangered species on this forum. Don't make it worse
Mercenary09
Member
TLOU2 was the fastest selling PlayStation game ever. By the end of 2020 it was also the third best selling Sony game in US history only behind Spider-Man and God of War. It was a top 10 seller for the entire year in 2020 in both the US and Europe. Throughout 2021 it was a top 20 and top 10 selling game on the PlayStation Store Monthly charts quite a few times. They also confirmed that the game was profitable on day 1. Idk what world you come from but none of that is a disappointment or a letdown to anyone.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Microsoft updated Forza Horizon player counts almost every other day.
They barely said anything about Halo Infinite numbers.
Does this mean Halo Infinite wasn't a success?
If they eventually release The Last of Us Part II numbers, does that mean it's a success and that they are happy with the sales? People can't have it both ways.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
Multiplayer wise... potentially... like did you miss all the reports about the 90%+ drops on steam or something? We don't know, and Microsoft don't want to tell anyone how well... or not well Halo Infinite is currently doing as a free 2 play title, we know it makes alot of money from whales (also from steam stats) but nothing on player population outside of steam which they can't hide, which shows a dramatic drop... wait are you suggesting that Microsoft don't want to release numbers on Halo because its doing poorly on player retention? That's an intresting thought.
But what does this F2P game have something to do with official numbers that Ghost of Tsushima sold?
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Javthusiast
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iHaunter
Member
Don't forget Returnal and Ratchet and Clank. All entirely different genres and style of games.
Wunray
Member
I agree, bring on the pc port and let me double dip.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
The only number I see on that list is 1, 2, 3....
Man those are low numbers if that's how much they sold.
Javthusiast
Banned
They keep bringing them up and comparing because those games were put against each other by the youtube grifter chuds. They constantly held up GoT as the shining beacon while downplaying TloU2s success and quality as a game.
Yeah, I'm one of those who was waiting for a ps5 to play this game.
I'm also in the camp that thought this would have hit 10 million by now.
custardbun01
Member
Best game of 2020 and I think my favourite PS4 game… between that and red dead probably. Also the expansion was my favourite 'game' of 2021!
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Mr. Michael Pachter, who else? I'm not sure it's more hilarious that he said it or that a website considered it newsworthy. Someone already linked it earlier in the thread. Not gonna give that trash article another link lol.
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This thread is not going to regress into yet another TLOU2 thread. Bait was laid- but move on.
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
Ghost of Tsushima is legit historic originality and I think it will be apart of this generation's and last's golden years. I'm not following the hype behind battle royale, it takes two etc. games, wait a second Ghost of Tsushima is just remarkable but Assassins Creed came up with the historic 3rd person genre.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Both Forza and Halo dropped numbers on steam. Just because it dropped numbers, that doesn't change the fact that they could report the total number of people who have played Halo Infinite.
Me?
I'm using the logic you guys are using. So just because they haven't reported or updated the numbers, that means (based on your logic) that it's doing poorly or they're not happy with the numbers.
Update: I won't discuss it any futher. People need to wait until the numbers come out and stop jumping to conclusions.
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jakinov
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Which means that's just more people who bought a PS4 to play Fifa or Fornite. You can't assume there'd be 10 million people eagerly interested int he game because 100 million people have a PS4. GOTY awards don't mean shit because casuals aren't likely to google "GAME OF THE YEAR PS4 games" they are more likely to google "Best PS4 game" which search engines are going to start recommedning you based on relevance. 10 million is still an arbritary number not based on peoples preferences or tastes, you are just basing it on install base. PS3 had a huge install base too but most if it's exclusives sold well for the time but nearly as good as today and they reviewed really well and got GOTY. The only one that really broke out was The Last of US which had memes and a lot of people hyping up the story over a long period of time. Casual hardcores who don't frequent gaming sites daily like you and I won't simply buy a game because it wins GOTY and reviews well they buy shit that trends is hyped up. Horizon content would spread on Reddit, Twitter and Facebook at least every week showing off how cool the game was and making people aware of it's existence. Ghotsts had it too but it fizzled.
Just like for movies and other things casual hardcore hops on thing over trends/hype. Look at The Witcher 3 and how many people bought that over all those memes and consider how many people never even beat that game i.e. people who bought and thought they'd enjoy the game. CDPR even said themselves the game had a super low completetion rate based on their own metrics. And look how despite us people who frequent gaming sites knowing the cyberpunk games are super glitchy a shit ton of people still bought it. Because they don't electively read gaming news it gets pushed to them sometimes and all they can see is either people posting clips (good or bad) of them playing and be like wow this game is popular I want to be a part of this and they buy it.
And again Horizon being heavily buindled puts Ghots at a disadvantage because game companies often count those as game sales too.
Don't be idiocy.
Sony releases its games to pc when they lose financial value on consoles.
Ghost of Tsushima is still selling great, but huge discounts are not working out.
It will be released on pc in 2024, with the announcement of the sequel.
And by that time it will have sold about 15 million copies.
yurinka
Member
Yep, happened with almost all their teams.
GoT is the most successful Sucker Punch game ever, Horizon is the most successful Guerrilla game ever, Spider-Man is the most successful Insomniac game ever, GoW 2018 reboot is the most successful SSM game ever, Days Gone was also the most successful Bend Studio game ever, Detroit the most successful Quantic Dream ever, Returnal is the most successful Housemarque game ever and Death Stranding is on track to become the best selling Kojima game ever.
I think this generation we'll see this from Firesprite (their top staff are mostly former SCE Liverpool, Evolution Studios and Bizarre Creations people), Pixel Opus (they are growing with each game and now are partnering with Sony Pictures Animations for a game) and Team Asobi (previously known as Japan Studio), and who knows if Bluepoint too if their move to create original content isn't only dlcs or sequels.
And who knows if with Cory's new IP at SSM's, but seems very difficult because GoW is too big. Same goes with Polyphony, their boss said they are interesting on doing something else other than Gran Turismo, but some GT games had insane sales that is going to be very hard to beat.
We don't know Dreams' results, I assume didn't become their most successful game because they would have mentioned it, but I see potential growth with possible PSVR2 and PC ports. Same goes with London Studio, they are supposed to be working on a big AAA game so it may become their best selling game up to date too.
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remember_spinal
Banned
This is why i like to see sony make deals with or acquire small teams like lucid, ember lab, arrowhead etc. they have the potential to put out games on the level of their big studios
Why i also think sony never needs to buy a big publisher, they got more than enough talent and IP on their own
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yurinka
Member
Yes, they have a lot of talent and successful IPs, many of them sleeping because they don't have enough manpower to work in all of them.
So it's a good move on Jimbo's side to grow all these studios a lot and to acquire support and port teams, to make sure they have multiple teams inside each studio, so they could develop multiple games at the same time, both sequels and new IPs, with someone else handling ports/remasters/remakes.
I think it would be a good idea to acquire Lucid and integrate it into Firesprite as they did with Fabrik. Because Lucid has some former staff from SCE Liverpool, Evolution and specially Bizarre Creations. And Firesprite and Fabrik also had many former people from these teams.
I see potential for Ember Lab and Arrowhead acquisitions, they can grow and with Sony's help could improve a lot. But I think on Ember Lab's case first they'd need to make a 2nd successful game, probably as a 2nd party game as a test before buying them. Something that seems they are doing from the previous creators of Metal Gear, Assassin's Creed, CoD BO and Destiny.
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Connificent
Al Pachinko, Konami President
It's Sony's best open world game. It deserves even more.
thismeinteil
Member
To be fair, and this is coming from a BIG PlayStation guy, I want to know, too. It's funny how the last big Sony releases have all been getting constant updates on how they're selling once or twice a year, yet they are silent when it comes to TLOU2. They weren't for the last installment. I think the obvious answer is it's not selling as well as they want it to. But I guess to some people the logical answer is it's just selling so well that it's hard for Sony to keep up the numbers so they can't possibly give them out.
@ OP
Well deserved. Just started playing this game over the holiday break. Not only is it a good game to just look at on the PS5, but the combat is so satisfying. Once you get the hang of all it's mechanics you start to feel like a badass samurai.
Edit: Whoops, just saw the warning. Won't continue that part of the discussion further.
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